Bali expats !!!

[georgegeorgia]

 

I need Bali retiree expats to tell me the difference in living in Bali vs Thailand ( Pattaya & Phuket )

 

I'm watching YouTube vids on Bali and despite the classic 1980's  Aussie song by Australian group Redgum "I've been to Bali too "

I NEVER have !!!

 

Is Bali beating Thailand now in Australian retirees ?

I think so 

What's the difference in pricing ,visas ..oh please stay on topic 

Retirement visa ?

Rents ?

 

 

And stop singing ..I've been to Bali too ....I've been to Bali too" 

[baansgr]

No just all the bogans 

[cranki]

Over run with Russians....

[georgegeorgia]

45 minutes ago, baansgr said:

No just all the bogans 

Yes I always believed that ,so stayed away

 

Now we must explain possibly in a "Academic" way what exactly the word "bogan" may mean.

 

Perhaps it's the equivalent of the "chav" in England terms ?

 

It's the lower class Aussie...bogan ..tatts singlets etc ....

I certainly do not mix with the peasant Aussie ( bogans)  and fly business class to avoid the bogan elements 

But it appears the bogans are in a place called Kuta 

Retirees expats appear to live away from that Kuta area 

 

[scubascuba3]

I've been three times, the bogans are centralised in Kuta for surfing and partying. When i travelled around the island i never noticed them again. You'd like Ubud, more chilled vibe, bogan free zone

[liddelljohn]

Do they still have Mullets ????

[save the frogs]

Who cares who lives where?

 

You can avoid people you don't like anywhere in the world. 

 

Bali expats are "lower class" than pattaya expats? Really?

 

And anyway, someone who surfs is low class? Or are you just jealous they still have the energy to surf?

[steven100]

why do you persist in posting such nonsense topics    ??  

 

are you a baby?   certainly seems like it. 

[fredwiggy]

The only way to know how a certain place is, is to go there and spend as much time as you can afford. Taking other's advice isn't a help, as they might have different views on what makes a place good or bad, tastes in food, scenery, nightlife, climate etc. Reviews are helpful if you see the majority saying the same things, but they still aren't you. If 30 people say a restaurant is dirty, with lousy food and service, and 3 say it's fine, you can pretty much be assured it isn't a good place to go, but if the positives far outweigh the negatives, and that place has food you like, it's worth a try. The same with visiting a country, although it's a lot more expensive so you might want to look at what's available that you might like, then look at reviews to see what others have said, then make a decision, taking a chance if it fits you.

[scubascuba3]

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

And anyway, someone who surfs is low class? Or are you just jealous they still have the energy to surf?

Their vocabulary is limited and mainly about surfing

[fredwiggy]

4 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Yes I always believed that ,so stayed away

 

Now we must explain possibly in a "Academic" way what exactly the word "bogan" may mean.

 

Perhaps it's the equivalent of the "chav" in England terms ?

 

It's the lower class Aussie...bogan ..tatts singlets etc ....

I certainly do not mix with the peasant Aussie ( bogans)  and fly business class to avoid the bogan elements 

But it appears the bogans are in a place called Kuta 

Retirees expats appear to live away from that Kuta area 

 

Why are people with tattoos lower class? I don't have any, but my family does, along with many of my friends. I wore singlets when I power lifted, so what's the deal with them? And flying economy makes you a peasant? I thought it was a way to save money you could use for other things. And you keep using the word academic to discuss things that haven't anything to do with academics.

[fredwiggy]

4 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Their vocabulary is limited and mainly about surfing

How many surfers have you spoken to? If it's many, I'm wondering why, seeing they only talk about surfing as you say.

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Why are people with tattoos lower class?

Not exactly sure how it works in Thailand.

But back home, maybe 20 years ago you had to hide your tattoos or you might not get hired during a job interview.

So that probably actually prompted more people to get tattoos, as an act of mild rebellion against excessive conformity. 

So the conformity itself is the problem, telling people they're bad if they have tattoos.

 

I went for a massage and asked the masseuse if she had a tattoo, and she went into a long explanation of why not all people with tattoos are bad. And she's right. 

 

We need to stop judging people with tattoos. 

It actually looks pretty cool on most people. Although some people overdo it. 

 

[fredwiggy]

6 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Not exactly sure how it works in Thailand.

But back home, maybe 20 years ago you had to hide your tattoos or you might not get hired during a job interview.

So that probably actually prompted more people to get tattoos, as an act of mild rebellion against excessive conformity. 

So the conformity itself is the problem, telling people they're bad if they have tattoos.

 

I went for a massage and asked the masseuse if she had a tattoo, and she went into a long explanation of why not all people with tattoos are bad. And she's right. 

 

We need to stop judging people with tattoos. 

It actually looks pretty cool on most people. Although some people overdo it. 

 

I'm the only one in my family without one. Never had a reason. All my children do besides the young one here, but I'm thinking she'll follow suit with her siblings, seeing they all have at least 2. In Thailand, it's always been noted that bar girls get them, and it's a way to judge, but without knowing the background of someone you can't judge them. In the US, anyone can have them in any position.

[actonion]

Away from the heavily populated tourists areas, of Kuta etc..  i found the locals spoke more English than Thailand, and were as friendly, if not, more so

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

I'm the only one in my family without one. Never had a reason. All my children do besides the young one here, but I'm thinking she'll follow suit with her siblings, seeing they all have at least 2. In Thailand, it's always been noted that bar girls get them, and it's a way to judge, but without knowing the background of someone you can't judge them. In the US, anyone can have them in any position.

 

It has become a sort of ritual. And people who have them are kind of part of a tribe.

 

Probably all bar girls have them, but how many non-bar girls have them in Thailand? 

 

[fredwiggy]

Just now, save the frogs said:

 

It has become a sort of ritual. And people who have them are kind of part of a tribe.

 

Probably all bar girls have them, but how many non-bar girls have them in Thailand? 

 

That's what I meant. You see some in Isaan, and can guess they may have been  bar girls, but times change, and more and more here are adopting more western values and ideas, so you never know.

[ColeBOzbourne]

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

Their vocabulary is limited and mainly about surfing

Plus they speak with that annoying vocal-fry, and manage to fit the word 'dude' into every sentence. 

[scubascuba3]

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

How many surfers have you spoken to? If it's many, I'm wondering why, seeing they only talk about surfing as you say.

I've met a few in Kuta, one asked me, "do you surf"? i said no and he was stumped what to talk about, you met any? you could have tried to brain wash them about Christianity 

[scubascuba3]

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

Why are people with tattoos lower class?

They just are

[fredwiggy]

6 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

I've met a few in Kuta, one asked me, "do you surf"? i said no and he was stumped what to talk about, you met any? you could have tried to brain wash them about Christianity 

I don't attempt to brainwash anyone about anything. Teaching isn't brain washing. I don't look at people as sheep, although many are followers. My duty as a Christian is to spread the word, but not to be pushy.

[fredwiggy]

21 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

They just are

Your opinion, which means nothing. I'm asking for more evidence that's unbiased.

[scubascuba3]

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Your opinion, which means nothing. I'm asking for more evidence that's unbiased.

Your opinion is rubbish, I'm certainly not interested, others know who I'm referring to and why

[fredwiggy]

9 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Your opinion is rubbish, I'm certainly not interested, others know who I'm referring to and why

I didn't make an opinion. I asked you to tell me why those with tattoos are lower class. They aren't, as class has nothing to do with having or not having a tattoo but how you carry yourself. There are millionaires with tattoos, celebrities and politicians. This also doesn't mean they have a lot of class but most wouldn't look at them as lower class. Who are these others that agree with you that those with tattoos are lower class? You do know what birds of a feather means right?

[Cameroni]

4 hours ago, actonion said:

Away from the heavily populated tourists areas, of Kuta etc..  i found the locals spoke more English than Thailand, and were as friendly, if not, more so

 

That was my experience as well. I would also add that as good as Thai cuisine is, Indonesian and Balinese cuisine is a cut above Thai cooking.

 

Bali also has a spiritual vibe most of Thailand has lost already. Better coffee too.

 

 It was sad to see Indonesia abandon its country to the Chinese at Lake Toba and to assorted Australians and Russians in Bali now, their presence degrades Bali significantly.

 

However, if I had to leave Thailand Bali would be top of the list.

[5davidhen1]

Until I opened a Thai bank account, I used to change sterling at one of the many FX kiosks. Not once did anyone attempt to short-change me.

In 2018, I spent 3 months mainly in Sanur, on the south-east coast of Bali. Almost every time I exchanged currency, there was an attempt to short-change me. One of the tricks they employed was to try and pay me in low-denomination notes, making it more difficult to check the amount. On another occasion, with the FX rate clearly displayed, and a notice claiming "No commission" the man tried hid darndest to fiddle me. I had put 2 £50 notes under a rock on his counter. He was putting bundles of IDR on the counter but, as I was counting them, in my peripheral vision I noticed he was removing some which I had already counted. When I challenged him, he said, "I have to make a little commission!" I swiftly retrieved my 2 £50 notes and walked away.

On the subject of food, I thought that the fare may have been even more diverse than here in Thailand --- what a misconception that turned out to be? A lot of the meals seemed to be topped off with the same boring sauce/gravy. Also, because there is a hefty import tax, or so I was told, the Aussie steaks were more expensive than some here in Thailand. 

[Scouse123]

7 hours ago, steven100 said:

why do you persist in posting such nonsense topics    ??  

 

are you a baby?   certainly seems like it. 

 

He's a lonely old man, and this is one of the only ways he can get people's attention.

[scubascuba3]

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

I didn't make an opinion. I asked you to tell me why those with tattoos are lower class. They aren't, as class has nothing to do with having or not having a tattoo but how you carry yourself. There are millionaires with tattoos, celebrities and politicians. This also doesn't mean they have a lot of class but most wouldn't look at them as lower class. Who are these others that agree with you that those with tattoos are lower class? You do know what birds of a feather means right?

There's a reason prisons are full of tattoo people

[fredwiggy]

7 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

There's a reason prisons are full of tattoo people

Yes, they broke the law, and there's a reason millions of others who have tattoos aren't in prison. They didn't break the law.

[Harrisfan]

16 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

There's a reason prisons are full of tattoo people

Usually indicates a low IQ.