Remember these Las Vegas murders by a illegal immigrant ?

[riclag]

It was one of the first of many “reported” heinous acts perpetrated by A illegal 

migrant .He just got sentenced, two life terms for killing two Las Vegas Strip 

show girls!

https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immigrant-headed-prison-las-vegas-showgirl-murder-had-criminal-record-sanctuary-state

 

The story is based on a FoxNews report 

[MicroB]

No I don't remember it. But, there are about 40-50 murders a year in that city. But when you mentioned remembering a particular murder, the one that springs to mind is the 2017 sniper massacre. Nearly 8 years on, no one knows why Paddock did what he did.

[Will B Good]

 

 

I, for one, am impressed with this "member's' concerted efforts to post unadulterated dross on an unrelenting basis.

 

He is without doubt in a league of his own.........hats off.

[Aviatorhi]

8 hours ago, MicroB said:

No I don't remember it. But, there are about 40-50 murders a year in that city. But when you mentioned remembering a particular murder, the one that springs to mind is the 2017 sniper massacre. Nearly 8 years on, no one knows why Paddock did what he did.

Probably drunk on freedumb.

[bamnutsak]

IMO undocumented persons found guilty of ANY felony crime should be deported, after habeas corpus laws are satisfied.  

 

IMO misdemeanors should require a mandatory immigration status hearing within 30 days resulting in a permission to stay or a deportation order.

 

 

 

 

[riclag]

“According to criminal records, Barrios had prior run-ins with the law in California, but was not removed from the country”.

 

The sick left in a attempt to be judicious & humanitarian want to give illegal migrants a better life, another chance ! 

At the expense of  2 murdered and 6 

other innocent American victims .
 

[josephbloggs]

3 minutes ago, riclag said:

“According to criminal records, Barrios had prior run-ins with the law in California, but was not removed from the country”.

 

The sick left in a attempt to be judicious & humanitarian want to give illegal migrants a better life, another chance ! 

At the expense of  2 murdered and 6 

other innocent American victims .
 

"Man convicted of crime gets sentenced to lengthy prison term". That could have been the title of your baiting thread because, essentially, that is all your non story is no matter how "anti left" or anti immigrant you want to slant it.

Boring boring boring. Also disappointed at myself for replying as it is just gives your nonsense post a little more exposure that it doesn't warrant.

[Tug]

10 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

I, for one, am impressed with this "member's' concerted efforts to post unadulterated dross on an unrelenting basis.

 

He is without doubt in a league of his own.........hats off.

He has some competition but he’s certainly the original consistent one as far as I know.

[riclag]

I hope I see the day when all the goodie two shoe leftest get jailed for harboring illegals , especially these 

sick disturbed ones !

 

 

 

[Magictoad]

16 hours ago, riclag said:

It was one of the first of many “reported” heinous acts perpetrated by A illegal 

migrant .He just got sentenced, two life terms for killing two Las Vegas Strip 

show girls!

https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immigrant-headed-prison-las-vegas-showgirl-murder-had-criminal-record-sanctuary-state

 

The story is based on a FoxNews report 

An not A. Do try and get your rabble rousing grammatically correct. It will give it more credence,  though not much more.

[riclag]

3 minutes ago, Magictoad said:

An not A. Do try and get your rabble rousing grammatically correct. It will give it more credence,  though not much more.

Just reporting the facts !Im not out to please or be an English grammar expert.

My countrymen are being  murdered by  illegals who travel willie nillie through out the country from Sanctuary cities & states.

 

[Hamus Yaigh]

9 minutes ago, riclag said:

My countrymen are being  murdered by  illegals who travel willie nillie through out the country from Sanctuary cities & states.

Why should anyone remember this on a forum called ASEANNOW? You are baiting the wrong audience. Tell someone who gives a monkeys.

[placeholder]

4 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Why should anyone remember this on a forum called ASEANNOW? You are baiting the wrong audience. Tell someone who gives a monkeys.

I  hate to defend riclag about anything but this is the political soapbox which is a subforum of the world forum where it would be Thai stories that didn't belong.

[riclag]

10 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

Why should anyone remember this on a forum called ASEANNOW? You are baiting the wrong audience. Tell someone who gives a monkeys.

Political soapbox!

Many  of these scenes are playing out in the USA as a result of illegal migration .

 

Now go troll somewhere else!

[placeholder]

18 minutes ago, riclag said:

Just reporting the facts !Im not out to please or be an English grammar expert.

My countrymen are being  murdered by  illegals who travel willie nillie through out the country from Sanctuary cities & states.

 

"We make use of uniquely comprehensive arrest data from the Texas Department of Public Safety to compare the criminality of undocumented immigrants to legal immigrants and native-born US citizens between 2012 and 2018. We find that undocumented immigrants have substantially lower crime rates than native-born citizens and legal immigrants across a range of felony offenses. Relative to undocumented immigrants, US-born citizens are over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes, 2.5 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes, and over 4 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes."

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014704117

[ronnie50]

17 hours ago, riclag said:

It was one of the first of many “reported” heinous acts perpetrated by A illegal 

migrant .He just got sentenced, two life terms for killing two Las Vegas Strip 

show girls!

Nah. Amateur stuff. Remember THIS guy at a Las Vegas hotel in 2017 who killed nearly 60 people and wounded 500 from his hotel window and a rapid fire weapon? Not an immigrant. A good-ol' boy from America with lots of guns. https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/las-vegas-police-investigating-shooting-mandalay-bay-n806461

 

In America, you are what you shoot. 

[Will B Good]

14 minutes ago, placeholder said:

"We make use of uniquely comprehensive arrest data from the Texas Department of Public Safety to compare the criminality of undocumented immigrants to legal immigrants and native-born US citizens between 2012 and 2018. We find that undocumented immigrants have substantially lower crime rates than native-born citizens and legal immigrants across a range of felony offenses. Relative to undocumented immigrants, US-born citizens are over 2 times more likely to be arrested for violent crimes, 2.5 times more likely to be arrested for drug crimes, and over 4 times more likely to be arrested for property crimes."

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014704117

 

Does he read your posts? I know he put me on ignore months ago.

 

He's only interested in reading posts from his own little echo chamber buddies.

[riclag]

1 hour ago, ronnie50 said:

Nah. Amateur stuff. Remember THIS guy at a Las Vegas hotel in 2017 who killed nearly 60 people and wounded 500 from his hotel window and a rapid fire weapon? Not an immigrant. A good-ol' boy from America with lots of guns. https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/las-vegas-police-investigating-shooting-mandalay-bay-n806461

 

In America, you are what you shoot. 

A poor comparison deflection!

The leftist trying desperately to malign 

what illegal migration has forced hundreds of thousands of others to endure .

Murder

Human Trafficking 

 

Fentanyl 

Children missing by the hundreds of thousands, on & on.

Fraud

Billions upon Billions in cost.

This case was one of the first of many “to be reported “back in 2022. 

 

The leftest here get upset when anyone opposes the sickness & tragedy

of illegal  border crossers.

[josephbloggs]

24 minutes ago, riclag said:

A poor comparison deflection!

The leftist trying desperately to malign 

what illegal migration has forced hundreds of thousands of others to endure .

Murder

Human Trafficking 

 

Fentanyl 

Children missing by the hundreds of thousands, on & on.

Fraud

Billions upon Billions in cost.

This case was one of the first of many “to be reported “back in 2022. 

 

The leftest here get upset when anyone opposes the sickness & tragedy

of illegal  border crossers.

You forgot about the swans and cats - you missed a trick there.

[MicroB]

1 hour ago, ronnie50 said:

Nah. Amateur stuff. Remember THIS guy at a Las Vegas hotel in 2017 who killed nearly 60 people and wounded 500 from his hotel window and a rapid fire weapon? Not an immigrant. A good-ol' boy from America with lots of guns. https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/las-vegas-police-investigating-shooting-mandalay-bay-n806461

 

In America, you are what you shoot. 

 

 

That's really the only murder in recent times in Las Vegas that I recall. The OP posts some parochial story expecting an international audience to really recall this. His mention of Las Vegas piqued by interest in what happened after 2017, and I was surprised to find that, even after an extensive investigation, no one knows the motive.

 

Of course I was then motivated to look into other notable murders in Las Vegas. I assume the OP is a native of the city given his profound interest in local affairs.

 

The death of Jonathan Lewis in 2023 didn't attract any international headlines, but the manner of his death, at the hands of what was described as a mob, is appalling. He was murdered because another student was set upon over a vape and wireless headphones. Perhaps the OP, as a local, can provide some insight about local perceptions of this case. Is it indicative of a wider issue among the youth of Last Vegas.

 

10 people killed the boy, but 4 boys are up for trial

 

https://youtu.be/9FKu9wS8H-s?si=lbRVcLJkwleUiQDE

 

 

The 4 boys got away with it, and 6 others are entirely Scot free, len alone the behaviour of the onlookers.

[MicroB]

2 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

You forgot about the swans and cats - you missed a trick there.

 

Don't forget the dogs. What happened about that. It was a big deal, that people in Springfield were going around eating cats and dogs. Click the link. It's for a good cause, irrespective of the sentiments of the video/

 

 

[FlorC]

Illegals that commit violent crimes should be terminated 

NOT deported or put in jail on our expense.

[riclag]

11 hours ago, FlorC said:

Illegals that commit violent crimes should be terminated 

NOT deported or put in jail on our expense.

disagree ,it cost to much money & its time consuming to terminate the real violent offenders,  send them to Cecot Prison.
 

The USA good guys  haven’t even put a dent into achieving its mass deportation goals of starting with the illegal migrant violent offenders . 

 

Over 400K 'convicted criminals' living in US illegally, federal data shows

https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/over-400k-convicted-criminals-living-illegally-in-us-federal-government-says-harris-trump-biden-election-november-border-illegal-immigration-ice-customs-patrol-texas-white-house-arizona-visit-crimes

 

[MicroB]

3 hours ago, riclag said:

disagree ,it cost to much money & its time consuming to terminate the real violent offenders,  send them to Cecot Prison.
 

The USA good guys  haven’t even put a dent into achieving its mass deportation goals of starting with the illegal migrant violent offenders . 

 

Over 400K 'convicted criminals' living in US illegally, federal data shows

https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/over-400k-convicted-criminals-living-illegally-in-us-federal-government-says-harris-trump-biden-election-november-border-illegal-immigration-ice-customs-patrol-texas-white-house-arizona-visit-crimes

 

 

The deal struck with El Salvador commits the US to pay $6 million per year per 300 inmates received, so about $20,000 per annum. These are convicted criminals, so will be serving out their aentences, for crimes committed in the US at US expense.  Many are in for life, lets assume 20 years for these 300. Now that represents some saving for the US, given the average cost of housing an inmate in the US is about $35,000, but the deal doesn't entirely relieve the US of the cost.

 

But that's only the cost to the US in terms of payments to El Salvador. It doesn't include costs to the US military of providing the flights, plus there will be costs in likely building new US side receiving facilities; transit camps if you will., not to mention legal costs.

 

The reported annual cost of the El Salvador prison system is $200 million. The total prison population is about 110,000. So the actual cost to El Salvador is less than $2000 per year, so this is a sweet deal for the country. No wonder its not willing to send people back

 

 

The prison they are being transferred to houses at maximum 20,000 inmates. Its disengenous (or idiotic) for you to imply 400,000 inmates can be transferred there.

 

You suggest mass execution is too expensive, Its probably a lot cheaper. The US should consult with China and Iran how they carry this out at a high tempo. I believe China now has mobile execution chambers, and in order to return value to the taxpayer, they run a lucrative organ harvesting programme (subject to screening for infectious disease). Maybe they use rejected organs for pig swill. Iran has ingeniously used commerical construction equipment as mobile gibbets. One issue the US faces is that if death by lethal injection is used, then the materials used need to be cleared by the FDA. This has also lead to problems witj importation of material and equipment, leaving to shortages. The regulatory requirements also adds significantly to the cost. 

 

The cost per execution is cited as $3 million per cost, but this reflects the costs of appeals and the various legal processes needed. The cost could be considerably reduced if appeals were eliminated, or  adopting the old British system; 1 appeal is allowed, usually within weeks of sentence being passed, and then if unsuccessful, the inmate is dispatched on a date of the prison service's choosing (the prisoner is not given the right to know that date).

 

The attraction of the Iranian approach is that the equipment is fully reusable. In fact, the state can either hire equipment quite easily, or find it has a resale value in the construction trade. In China, reportedly the costs of the execution are fully reimbursed from the inmate's family.

 

Or maybe, just like when every other country does this, its a bit of theatre, and really doesn't achieve much.

 

The long term solution is for the US to start negotiating with countries regarding prisoner exchange programmes, including the US accepting into custody, and honouring overseas punishments, Americans in custody. Not every American is wrongfully imprisoned. Most American inmates are hardened criminals.

[spidermike007]

Not sure why you felt the need to single out that particular murder, how many mass murders per year in the US? I think well over 100 per year and the vast majority of them are committed by American citizens, the vast majority of those citizens being white men, so what's the point of your silly post?

[Will B Good]

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Not sure why you felt the need to single out that particular murder, how many mass murders per year in the US? I think well over 100 per year and the vast majority of them are committed by American citizens, the vast majority of those citizens being white men, so what's the point of your silly post?

Here's a clue

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, Will B Good said:

Here's a clue

Thanks. Racism and rampant hatred is alive and well. 

[FlorC]

11 hours ago, riclag said:

disagree ,it cost to much money & its time consuming to terminate the real violent offenders,  send them to Cecot Prison.
 

The USA good guys  haven’t even put a dent into achieving its mass deportation goals of starting with the illegal migrant violent offenders . 

 

Over 400K 'convicted criminals' living in US illegally, federal data shows

https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/over-400k-convicted-criminals-living-illegally-in-us-federal-government-says-harris-trump-biden-election-november-border-illegal-immigration-ice-customs-patrol-texas-white-house-arizona-visit-crimes

 

That prison is going to get very full.

While El Salvador NOW seems to be a stable country, it is a mid american country and

like their vulcanos,

it can erupt at any moment and see a massive prison break.