BREAKING NEWS Virginia Giuffre, Fierce Advocate and Epstein Survivor, Dies by Suicide at 41

[rough diamond]

16 minutes ago, DaLa said:

Of course he will. No sweat.

He will of course go via Pizza Express.

[Briggsy]

On 4/26/2025 at 11:38 AM, BritManToo said:

If she had serious mental issues, wouldn't that cast doubt on her recent testimony for incidents that happened more than 20 years in her past? 

Actually no.

 

Sexual abuse survivors have massively higher rates of mental illness, suicide and self-destructive behaviour than the wider populace. The worse and more sustained the abuse, the higher the above rates are.

[Cameroni]

20 minutes ago, WorriedNoodle said:

The claim that Giuffre "made up lies" to extort millions is speculative and not fully supported by evidence. Giuffre’s allegations against Epstein and others were part of legal proceedings that resulted in settlements, not convictions for perjury or fraud. For example, her settlement with Prince Andrew (reportedly around $16 million) was a civil agreement, not proof of falsehood. The opinion also misrepresents the Dershowitz case: Giuffre’s acknowledgment of possible "misremembering" was part of a mutual settlement, not a legal finding of perjury.

 

Okay, let's knock this one out of the park first of all. Giuffre lied. This is not a matter of "claiming", this is actual fact. She lied. 

 

She claimed she had sex with Alan Dershowitz six times. This, alas was not true. They were malicious lies. Dershowitz made a recording of Giuffre's own lawyer, who in the recordign states he does not believe Giuffre had sex with Dershowitz. Her own lawyer. Moreover, in the Dershowitz trial "She has told numerous provable lies about her age, who she has met, whether she had emails concerning Dershowitz". In fact she never even met Dershowitz before the case.

 

 Giuffre also accused Bill Clinton, Al Gore and Tipper Gore. All false accusations.

 

"Giuffre sued Dershowitz earlier this year for defamation after he publicly denied ever meeting her and called her a 'serial perjurer,' a 'serial liar,' and a 'serial prostitute' in interviews with major media outlets."

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7664521/Alan-Dershowitz-counter-sues-Jeffrey-Epstien-victim-Virginia-Roberts-Giuffre.html

 

In addition to her legal actions against Ghislaine Maxwell, Alan Dershowitz and Prince Andrew, it is also widely believed that Virginia Giuffre approached high profile friends of Epstein, who were millionaires, with threats to take legal action against them, and they in turn paid Giuffre large sums of money, to avoid any legal action on her part. Lex Wexner is one example.

 

Your claim that Giuffre's legal action against Dershowitz ended in a "mutual settlement" and therefore she did not perjure herself is completely false. First all, Giuffre, gave up her legal action reluctantly and only because it became clear that not only did she not have any evidence, but Dershowitz had evidence of her lawyer saying on a phone call he did not believe Giuffre had sex with Dershhowitz. Had the trial gone ahead, Giuffre would have lost. That was the reason she abandoned the legal action. Of course Dershowtiz agreed to a mutual statement and withdrew his counterclaim, because he was just relieved that Giuffre publicly admitted her allegations were untrue. This in no way implies Giuffre did not perjure herself, she did, as she made statements to court that were obviously untrue.

 

Giuffre was such a liar and so untruthful, that in the prosecution of Epstein even the government lawyers refused to call her as a witness. Because they knew nobody would believe her and her lies would fall apart under cross examination.

[Cameroni]

1 hour ago, WorriedNoodle said:

You use derogatory terms like "whore" and reduces Virginia Giuffre to an object devoid of agency or complexity. This dehumanizing language dismisses the nuances of her situation and perpetuates victim-blaming. It ignores the power dynamics inherent in relationships involving minors and influential adults, especially in cases of alleged trafficking or exploitation. Giuffre was 17 when she met Epstein, a minor under U.S. law, which complicates the narrative of "willing participation."

 

Now this nonsense.

 

First of all Giuffre, at 17, was above the age of consent in Florida. So she could freely consent to sex, and she did, alas only for pay. Her "situation" was very stable, she was living with her father and had a job  in Mar a Lago at the time she met Ghislaine Maxwell. This whole notion that she was in a precarious position at the time is false, she wasn't.. 

 

It is not "dehumanizing" to call Giuffre a whore, it is calling her what she actually was. She was a whore. 

 

As for victim blaming, Giuffre herself should have joined Ghislaine Maxwell in prison, because several of Epstein's girls testified that it was Virginina Giuffre who helped persuade them to have sex with Epstein. She actively recruited for Epstein.

 

Despite Epstein's wealth and power, she could easily have said "No" and refused to meet Epstein. She didn't, she took the money and had sex with Epstein again and again and again. She was certainly a willing participant.

 

 

[Cameroni]

1 hour ago, WorriedNoodle said:

The assertion that Giuffre was a "professional blackmailer" lacks substantiation beyond the opinion’s narrative. Legal settlements in high-profile cases often involve complex motivations, including avoiding protracted litigation, and do not inherently prove deceit.

 

Giuffre was a liar, a whore and a blackmailer. She blackmailed Prince Andrew on the basis of a photo which in no way proves he had sex with her. However, it was his word against hers and to make the legal action go away the Royal Family paid this vile lying blackmailer 16.3 million USD. Of course it was deceit. She never had sex with Prince Andrew. Just as she never had sex with Alan Dershowitz. However, she knew she could extort money form Prince Andrew, because other friends of Epstein had caved even without a legal action and just paid her the money.

 

1 hour ago, WorriedNoodle said:

Misapplication of "Karma" and Moral Judgment: The invocation of "karmic law" and the claim that Giuffre was "ruined" introduces a moralizing tone that lacks grounding in evidence. There’s no clear indication that Giuffre faced legal or personal ruin; this appears to be wishful speculation. Such rhetoric shifts focus from factual analysis to personal vendetta.

 

Giuffre was ruined. Despite her ill-gotten gains, her kidney disease and notoriety, her own husband wanted nothing more to do with her and took the children. Her health was ruined. Her life was ruined. Because you reap what you sow, and she sowed lies, blackmail and attempted to ruin others. So she was ruined instead. Nobody escapes karmic law.

 

1 hour ago, WorriedNoodle said:

this does not negate the possibility of exploitation, as victims of trafficking or abuse often face barriers to leaving, including fear, financial dependency, or lack of support.

 

So greed as a defence for blackmail and being a whore. Well done. You defend one of the lowest human beings the planet has ever produced. Shameful.

 

She had plenty of support, her father took her in. She had a job at Mar a Lago.  Then another man came along to marry her. She never needed to have sex fo rpay. That was her choice alone. Because she's a whore, an out and out whore. Nothing less.

[Lacessit]

7 hours ago, BritManToo said:

In any sexual interaction, one person is exploited, one person is the exploiter.

If you think you're having sex is mutually consensual, you're probably the one being exploited.

Sex with you must be a real hoot for the women.

[Chomper Higgot]

On 4/26/2025 at 12:59 PM, Cameroni said:

 

That almost certainly never happened, how would a celebrity rape a woman in a department store by fingering her,  I mean you have to believe in father Christmas to believe a story like that. That judge was politically motivated as evidenced by him later trying to ensure it was a rape verdict, which it would not have been according New York law for fingering. But the judge when out of his way to make it rape. Go figure.

Don’t confuse ‘celebrity’ with not being a sexual predator

There’s enough cases of the two being coexistent to remove any doubt that celebrity is no proof whatsoever of being a rapist.

 

[Cameroni]

43 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Don’t confuse ‘celebrity’ with not being a sexual predator

There’s enough cases of the two being coexistent to remove any doubt that celebrity is no proof whatsoever of being a rapist.

 

 

That's not what I said, but obviously if you're a celebrity that makes it somewhat unlikely you'd rape a woman in a department store. Not to mention she was over 50 years old, so double unlikely.

 

Or have you ever heard of a woman having been raped in a crowded department store by a celebrity? 

 

First and unique case it seems.

[josephbloggs]

58 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

That's not what I said, but obviously if you're a celebrity that makes it somewhat unlikely you'd rape a woman in a department store. Not to mention she was over 50 years old, so double unlikely.

 

Or have you ever heard of a woman having been raped in a crowded department store by a celebrity? 

 

First and unique case it seems.

So now you're saying only people under 50 get raped???

[Cameroni]

4 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

So now you're saying only people under 50 get raped???

 

I just don't think she was Trump's taste.

[stevenl]

41 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I just don't think she was Trump's taste.

From one bs excuse to the next.

[Chris Daley]

Diana, Epstein and Virginia all died mysteriously.  Odd that.

[Cameroni]

13 minutes ago, Chris Daley said:

Diana, Epstein and Virginia all died mysteriously.  Odd that.

 

Neither Epstein nor Giuffre died mysteriously.

 

They committed suicide. One was in prison, the other lost her children and was going through a divorce. Nothing mysterious at all.

 

Nutcases like Laura Loomer are claiming she got 'offed' don't jump on board with the crazies.