Is "Putinization" a more accurate way to describe what Trump is doing to America?

[FolkGuitar]

54 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

With Trump, there are so many plot twists. Good luck trying to keep up with what he's doing or why he's doing it.

He's 15 moves ahead of you. 

 

 

If it were just Krasnov I wouldn’t worry. He’s failed at everything he’s done. BUT… I am worried about what those who are controlling him will do next. 

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

Breaking news!

Trump says Putin is going absolutely crazy!

He says ... I don't know what the hell happened to Putin. LOL !!

 

With Trump, there are so many plot twists. Good luck trying to keep up with what he's doing or why he's doing it.

He's 15 moves ahead of you. 

 

 

Don't be absurd.

Are you that dense that this old news fools you!?!

It's just a game he occasionally plays for political cover because he knows the majority of Americans support Ukraine. 

 

If Trump was really ever to stop being Putin's poodle he would 

 

Ally with Europe to put on bone crashing sanctions on Russia including countries that buy Russian oil

 

Commit to arming Ukraine to the point they could win when combined with Russia falling apart economically. 

 

Officially acknowledge that Putin doesn’t want peace or even a ceasefire. He only wants total surrender and/or total victory to erase Ukrainisn sovereignty. 

[Quentin Zen]

8 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

At least Putin can manage the budget.   

 

 

 

This is the LAST of their concerns.  It's like me saying I have no debt (which is true), so then...... so then nothing.   

In 2024, the US had a GDP of $29.7 trillion, while Russia's GDP was approximately $2.196 trillion

Absolutely no comparison.  Look at all financial metrics and it will tell you that debt/GDP is not a concern right now.  It might be, but not right now.   Every decade people say this will DESTROY America.....hahahahahhahahahhahahahahah....10000000% wrong

 

 

[simple1]

7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Yeah.

I consider him a traitor.

But really these are different topics.

Trump's perverted alliance with Putin vs. Trump's attempt to be the American equivalent of Putin in his own regime.

 

IMO there is a big difference. i.e. Putin is attempting to re-create the Russian Empire, whereas USA does not have an Empire to re-establish. However, Trump is endeavouring to destroy the Rule of Law both domestically and globally. In addition to crushing criticisms of his Administration, attacking the judiciary, oversight and so on which Putin has already achieved. I would say Trump appears to be more focussed on generating the Cult of Personality than Putin.

[Jingthing]

48 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Don't be absurd.

Are you that dense that this old news fools you!?!

It's just a game he occasionally plays for political cover because he knows the majority of Americans support Ukraine. 

 

If Trump was really ever to stop being Putin's poodle he would 

 

Ally with Europe to put on bone crashing sanctions on Russia including countries that buy Russian oil

 

Commit to arming Ukraine to the point they could win when combined with Russia falling apart economically. 

 

Officially acknowledge that Putin doesn’t want peace or even a ceasefire. He only wants total surrender and/or total victory to erase Ukrainisn sovereignty. 

Small self  correction.

That Trump clip posted was recent 

That doesn't change my message one bit though.

Trump is still Putin's poodle unless and until.he actually DOES stuff to alter that narrative. 

 

To wit.

 

 

 

[save the frogs]

12 hours ago, FolkGuitar said:

I am worried about what those who are controlling him will do next. 

who's controlling him?

putin? the deep state?

they're all PUNKS. 

don't worry about it. 

 

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

who's controlling him?

putin? the deep state?

they're all PUNKS. 

don't worry about it. 

 

His amoral narcissistic impulses combined with creeping mental deterioration as happened to his racist father are controlling him.

[WayWokeWhiteGuy]

More like a Hilerization. 
 

 

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, Jingthing said:

His amoral narcissistic impulses combined with creeping mental deterioration as happened to his racist father are controlling him.

haha.

take a coupla days off man. you've earned it.

and pace yourself. still 3 1/2 years to go. 

 

[candide]

10 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

At least Putin can manage the budget.   

 

 

He just had a GDP problem after 2013... it explains rather well the timing of the invasion.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/263772/gross-domestic-product-gdp-in-russia/

[candide]

7 hours ago, blaze master said:

Meanwhile in reality.....

 

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1361776-trump-condemns-putin-after-russia-launches-deadly-airstrikes-across-ukraine/

"I’m not happy about that.” 🤣

Apart from not being happy, what is he doing about it?

[John Drake]

Time to use the 25th Amendment to replace Trump. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

[frank83628]

6 hours ago, Tug said:

Yup 100% predictable usually the same trolls.

That's rich coming from chief tantrum thrower, 

[MicroB]

Some sort of Freudian slip.

 

[WayWokeWhiteGuy]

4 hours ago, MicroB said:

Some sort of Freudian slip.

 

Trump it’s the grifter-in-chief!!!!!

[Jingthing]

As said in my OP people have used many different words to describe Trump's particular flavor of American democracy destroying authoritarian ambitions.

Here is an example of a word that can aptly be used to describe both Putin and Trump.

KLEPTOCRATS.

But both of them being kleptocrats are not JUST kleptocrats.

That's the beauty part of using Putinization.

It's not just one bad thing. It's a number of them that they BOTH share.

 

 

[WayWokeWhiteGuy]

10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes Donald is irrationally in love with Vlad.

It isn't mutual. Putin is evil but he's not an idiot. 

He knows Trump is a weak clown. 

But again that really isn't the main topic here.

The main topic here is how Trump is trying to do to the USA what Putin did to Russia.

He’s not trying to, he’s doing it. He’s planning to stay in office until he’s dead, and his pathetic POC son takes over.

 

There’s a reason Hegseth and Vance are where they are. 

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, WayWokeWhiteGuy said:

He’s not trying to, he’s doing it. He’s planning to stay in office until he’s dead, and his pathetic POC son takes over.

 

There’s a reason Hegseth and Vance are where they are. 

Yes he is doing it. I agree with that. 

[WayWokeWhiteGuy]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Yes he is doing it. I agree with that. 

The time for talk is over. 
 

Action is what’s needed. 

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, WayWokeWhiteGuy said:

The time for talk is over. 
 

Action is what’s needed. 

Tell that to the corrupt spineless republicans in congress who are the ones who actualy have the power to stop him now.

[MicroB]

39 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes Donald is irrationally in love with Vlad.

It isn't mutual. Putin is evil but he's not an idiot. 

He knows Trump is a weak clown. 

But again that really isn't the main topic here.

The main topic here is how Trump is trying to do to the USA what Putin did to Russia.

 

Putin might not be an idiot, but he is an ignorant man.

[Jingthing]

9 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

Putin might not be an idiot, but he is an ignorant man.

I think he lives in a yes man bubble.

Turns out it wasn't so smart to invade Ukraine in 2022.

It was supposed to take a few days. Now years later. That is NOT winning.

Anyway he's definitely much more intelligent than Trump, his poodle. 

[WayWokeWhiteGuy]

1 hour ago, MicroB said:

 

Putin might not be an idiot, but he is an ignorant man.

He’s clearly smarter than trump. 

[JimHuaHin]

Blindness seems to be a growing problem these days.

[save the frogs]

22 hours ago, Jingthing said:

It isn't mutual. Putin is evil but he's not an idiot. 

He knows Trump is a weak clown. 

But again that really isn't the main topic here.

 

What makes you so sure Putin isn't a "weak clown?"

Is that a scientific term that can be proven? 

What constitutes a clown? Someone who juggles? 

How the heck do you know who is controlling who?

It's just speculation and most likely a nonsensical theory. 

[save the frogs]

20 hours ago, WayWokeWhiteGuy said:

He’s clearly smarter than trump. 

Yeah, you ran detailed scientific IQ tests on both of them.

You're not just pulling it out of your butt. 

 

[save the frogs]

23 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Yes Donald is irrationally in love with Vlad.

 

Maybe you are the one who is irrational.

 

There are many good reasons for world leaders to be on good terms with each other instead of being enemies. 

 

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

Yeah, you ran detailed scientific IQ tests on both of them.

You're not just pulling it out of your butt. 

 

Pot kettle black

[Jingthing]

3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Maybe you are the one who is irrational.

 

There are many good reasons for world leaders to be on good terms with each other instead of being enemies. 

 

Trump.wants to be friends with murderous dictators and makes enemies of long term close allies. You can't sane wash that buster.

[Jingthing]

3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

What makes you so sure Putin isn't a "weak clown?"

Is that a scientific term that can be proven? 

What constitutes a clown? Someone who juggles? 

How the heck do you know who is controlling who?

It's just speculation and most likely a nonsensical theory. 

You're not posting in good faith.

You're just throwing half baked pest jabber at  the wall because criticism of Trump obviously personally offends you.

Dude, there isn't one sentient person on the planet who thinks Trump controls Putin.

That was  the last straw for me.

You are free of course to continue with your silly pest noise but you won't be hearing from me about it.

Happy trails amigo.