Popular Post snoop1130 Posted May 26 Popular Post Posted May 26 Picture courtesy of Thai PBS British tourists planning trips to Thailand face an alarming new threat — criminal gangs attempting to recruit them as drug mules under the guise of offering luxury holidays. Recent intelligence suggests these gangs are becoming increasingly active, posing significant risks for unsuspecting travellers. Operating both in Thailand and the UK, these gangs target prospective tourists by promising all-expenses-paid holidays, complete with stays in luxurious resorts, unlimited alcohol, and sometimes drugs, in return for transporting illicit drugs. Offers can be tempting, with promises of visiting idyllic locations and monetary bonuses of up to £2,000, provided tourists agree to smuggle packages back to the UK or onward to other destinations. The deception often exploits a common misunderstanding surrounding Thailand’s drug laws. Since the decriminalisation of cannabis in 2022, many tourists are misled to believe that all drug use and possession might be similarly tolerated, which is far from the truth. Concerns were significantly heightened following the high-profile arrests of two young British nationals. Bella Culley, aged 18 from Billingham, County Durham, was arrested at Tbilisi Airport in Georgia. Culley was allegedly attempting to smuggle 14kg of cannabis along with hashish. In a separate incident, Charlotte May Leek, 21, from South London, was detained upon arriving in Sri Lanka from Thailand. Authorities allege she was in possession of cannabis with an astonishing street value estimated at £1.15 million. Jemal Janashia, a former high-ranking police general and prominent drug crime expert in Georgia, has voiced serious concerns over these incidents, suggesting that drug trafficking gangs in Thailand may be deliberately targeting British travellers for their operations. In light of these developments, the UK’s Foreign Office has swiftly updated its travel guidelines for Thailand. The advisory, issued on 24 May, underscores the strict enforcement of drug laws despite Thailand’s reputation as a popular holiday destination for retirees and gap year students. The notice especially highlights the rigid stance on substances other than cannabis and cautions against any misunderstandings tourists might have about drug legality. Furthermore, the Foreign Office has documented numerous cases of British nationals facing arrest after attempting to smuggle cannabis out of Thailand, including several arrests during international transit phases. The phenomenon extends beyond direct smuggling, with the UK government also noting a significant rise in the quantity of cannabis being mailed from Thailand post the decriminalisation. This trend represents a worrying escalation in smuggling activities linked to Thailand, indicating a sophisticated network targeting naïve tourists. Authorities caution travellers to remain extremely alert to the potential dangers and legal ramifications of getting involved, even unknowingly, in these illicit activities. The allure of a seemingly free, exotic holiday could spiral into a serious legal predicament, resulting in severely punitive measures abroad. Adapted by ASEAN Now from Thai PBS 2025-05-26 1 2 1 2 5
Popular Post mikeymike100 Posted May 27 Popular Post Posted May 27 Indeed the number of people (mules) getting caught is on the rise. There is always someone after an easy 'buck' 1 7
Presnock Posted May 27 Posted May 27 16 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Picture courtesy of Thai PBS British tourists planning trips to Thailand face an alarming new threat — criminal gangs attempting to recruit them as drug mules under the guise of offering luxury holidays. Recent intelligence suggests these gangs are becoming increasingly active, posing significant risks for unsuspecting travellers. Operating both in Thailand and the UK, these gangs target prospective tourists by promising all-expenses-paid holidays, complete with stays in luxurious resorts, unlimited alcohol, and sometimes drugs, in return for transporting illicit drugs. Offers can be tempting, with promises of visiting idyllic locations and monetary bonuses of up to £2,000, provided tourists agree to smuggle packages back to the UK or onward to other destinations. The deception often exploits a common misunderstanding surrounding Thailand’s drug laws. Since the decriminalisation of cannabis in 2022, many tourists are misled to believe that all drug use and possession might be similarly tolerated, which is far from the truth. Concerns were significantly heightened following the high-profile arrests of two young British nationals. Bella Culley, aged 18 from Billingham, County Durham, was arrested at Tbilisi Airport in Georgia. Culley was allegedly attempting to smuggle 14kg of cannabis along with hashish. In a separate incident, Charlotte May Leek, 21, from South London, was detained upon arriving in Sri Lanka from Thailand. Authorities allege she was in possession of cannabis with an astonishing street value estimated at £1.15 million. Jemal Janashia, a former high-ranking police general and prominent drug crime expert in Georgia, has voiced serious concerns over these incidents, suggesting that drug trafficking gangs in Thailand may be deliberately targeting British travellers for their operations. In light of these developments, the UK’s Foreign Office has swiftly updated its travel guidelines for Thailand. The advisory, issued on 24 May, underscores the strict enforcement of drug laws despite Thailand’s reputation as a popular holiday destination for retirees and gap year students. The notice especially highlights the rigid stance on substances other than cannabis and cautions against any misunderstandings tourists might have about drug legality. Furthermore, the Foreign Office has documented numerous cases of British nationals facing arrest after attempting to smuggle cannabis out of Thailand, including several arrests during international transit phases. The phenomenon extends beyond direct smuggling, with the UK government also noting a significant rise in the quantity of cannabis being mailed from Thailand post the decriminalisation. This trend represents a worrying escalation in smuggling activities linked to Thailand, indicating a sophisticated network targeting naïve tourists. Authorities caution travellers to remain extremely alert to the potential dangers and legal ramifications of getting involved, even unknowingly, in these illicit activities. The allure of a seemingly free, exotic holiday could spiral into a serious legal predicament, resulting in severely punitive measures abroad. Adapted by ASEAN Now from Thai PBS 2025-05-26 IMHO, until the governments of the world determine that drug sellers are equivalent to murderers and in most cases probably serial killers and can charge them as such and carry out punishment, then it will continue because of all the USERS out there/here continuing to fund these criminals. 2 2 5 9
Popular Post Hornell Posted May 27 Popular Post Posted May 27 I just find it difficult to believe than anyone can be so stupid nowadays to either agree to carry another bag for someone or to allow them to insert a package, the contents of which they don't know, into their own baggage. 1 21 6
Popular Post factual monk Posted May 27 Popular Post Posted May 27 So now Brits will be avoiding Thailand after the Chinese fiasco... 1 5
Popular Post FlorC Posted May 27 Popular Post Posted May 27 4 minutes ago, Presnock said: IMHO, until the governments of the world determine that drug sellers are equivalent to murderers and in most cases probably serial killers and can charge them as such and carry out punishment, then it will continue because of all the USERS out there/here continuing to fund these criminals. Total BS. Murder victims don't choose to be murdered. Drug users do choose to take drugs. 3 7 2 1
Popular Post newbee2022 Posted May 27 Popular Post Posted May 27 It's good and helpful to give a warning to dumb British tourists. Greediness everywhere 3 1 1 1
Popular Post Frankie baby Posted May 27 Popular Post Posted May 27 Both British girls mentioned claimed they were framed. Since theirs been very little follow-up, can we assume that their liars as well as drug smugglers? 3 1 1
Popular Post Presnock Posted May 27 Popular Post Posted May 27 5 minutes ago, FlorC said: Total BS. Murder victims don't choose to be murdered. Drug users do choose to take drugs. if you read my comment, I didn't ignore nor forgive the USERS as they are the ones funding the pushers! why is it Total BS as this was stated as MHO anyway, you don't have to agree with me as I couldn't possibly care less what your opinion is either. 3 3 3
Popular Post Presnock Posted May 27 Popular Post Posted May 27 8 minutes ago, Hornell said: I just find it difficult to believe than anyone can be so stupid nowadays to either agree to carry another bag for someone or to allow them to insert a package, the contents of which they don't know, into their own baggage. Too many greedy people hoping to cash in! The pushers are making so much money they don't don't even care about those mules caught IMHO. 3 5 1 1 1
Popular Post hotchilli Posted May 27 Popular Post Posted May 27 16 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Recent intelligence suggests these gangs are becoming increasingly active, posing significant risks for unsuspecting travellers. If they except to be a drug mule then how can it be "unsuspecting" ? 2 5
Popular Post Nemo. Posted May 27 Popular Post Posted May 27 15 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said: Indeed the number of people (mules) getting caught is on the rise. There is always someone after an easy 'buck' Harsh times, high unemployment and highgCOL = more crime But you have to be mega stupid to smuggle drugs 1 7
Popular Post riverhigh Posted May 27 Popular Post Posted May 27 "The deception often exploits a common misunderstanding surrounding Thailand’s drug laws. Since the decriminalisation of cannabis in 2022, many tourists are misled to believe that all drug use and possession might be similarly tolerated, which is far from the truth." "misled to beleive" are the key words. People, especially young people without life experience, will convince themselves that the risks are low compared to the rewards. They will beleive what fits their narrative. How can one turn down a FREE holiday at luxury hotel and all drinks and drugs included? Here are some other key words thay should consider "there is no such thing as a FREE meal". 1 5 1
Popular Post fredwiggy Posted May 27 Popular Post Posted May 27 16 minutes ago, Presnock said: IMHO, until the governments of the world determine that drug sellers are equivalent to murderers and in most cases probably serial killers and can charge them as such and carry out punishment, then it will continue because of all the USERS out there/here continuing to fund these criminals. There's quite a lot of variations involved in that. There are people who sell weed and some that sell meth. They aren't the same as far as distributing a dangerous drug is concerned. There are also drug sellers and drug cartels, and everything in between. Those at the top with the dangerous drugs, heroin, meth, cocaine,crack et al, are the profit makers who don't care about anyone, including those under them, and only about as much cash they can make. A murderer is someone who intentionally kills someone. Those who sell drugs kill people, but it's usually because of overdosing and not directly intentional. A serial killer is someone going around killing unknown people and is likely a sociopath or very damaged in childhood, killing for kicks or a disturbed need such as sexual gratification. Punishment for all of these has to be weighed and can't be equal. Also the justice system is weak and sometimes corrupt, so murderers can get less terms than someone selling weed. 1 3 2 1
Popular Post Andrew Dwyer Posted May 27 Popular Post Posted May 27 25 minutes ago, Hornell said: I just find it difficult to believe than anyone can be so stupid nowadays to either agree to carry another bag for someone or to allow them to insert a package, the contents of which they don't know, into their own baggage. I think they have a good idea of what is in the baggage, a nice lump of cash is the deciding factor. 4 1
Gottfrid Posted May 27 Posted May 27 16 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Operating both in Thailand and the UK, these gangs target prospective tourists by promising all-expenses-paid holidays, complete with stays in luxurious resorts, unlimited alcohol, and sometimes drugs, in return for transporting illicit drugs. And here, already in the start it fails miserably. Once again dumb enough, foolish Brits have to be warned about something they apparently are willing to do. Just the kind of people with fluffy cloud dreams and no possibility to do a risk assessment. It´s good that it comes out in the news, so the rest of the world knows who needs warning about the obvious. 3 5
Popular Post Moonlover Posted May 27 Popular Post Posted May 27 28 minutes ago, Presnock said: IMHO, until the governments of the world determine that drug sellers are equivalent to murderers and in most cases probably serial killers and can charge them as such and carry out punishment, then it will continue because of all the USERS out there/here continuing to fund these criminals. 9 minutes ago, fredwiggy said: There's quite a lot of variations involved in that. There are people who sell weed and some that sell meth. They aren't the same as far as distributing a dangerous drug is concerned. There are also drug sellers and drug cartels, and everything in between. Those at the top with the dangerous drugs, heroin, meth, cocaine,crack et al, are the profit makers who don't care about anyone, including those under them, and only about as much cash they can make. A murderer is someone who intentionally kills someone. Those who sell drugs kill people, but it's usually because of overdosing and not directly intentional. A serial killer is someone going around killing unknown people and is likely a sociopath or very damaged in childhood, killing for kicks or a disturbed need such as sexual gratification. Punishment for all of these has to be weighed and can't be equal. Also the justice system is weak and sometimes corrupt, so murderers can get less terms than someone selling weed. Yes I agree, Taking @Presnock's rather fanciful hypothesis to the extreme, one could call a bartender a murderer! 1 1 2
JackGats Posted May 27 Posted May 27 41 minutes ago, Presnock said: IMHO, until the governments of the world determine that drug sellers are equivalent to murderers and in most cases probably serial killers and can charge them as such and carry out punishment, then it will continue because of all the USERS out there/here continuing to fund these criminals. Doing drugs is a choice. By your same twisted logic, many things you use/buy on a regular basis can be construed to fund "criminals". 1 1
Rimmer Posted May 27 Posted May 27 A troll post has been removed "Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast!" Arnold Judas Rimmer of Jupiter Mining Corporation Ship Red Dwarf
Popular Post fredwiggy Posted May 27 Popular Post Posted May 27 3 minutes ago, Moonlover said: Yes I agree, Taking @Presnock's rather fanciful hypothesis to the extreme, one could call a bartender a murderer! I do understand his feelings as far as those who sell hard drugs for profit. They're also many times involved in human trafficking. People who haven't tried or use weed now tend to lump all drugs together which doesn't work because some are as different as night and day. Doctors kill more people every year prescribing narcotics than most other drug deaths. I have personal experience in this as my ex wife died from a heart attack a couple of years ago, brought on by the damage so many years of using prescribed drugs given to her as prescriptions from her doctors. Yes, alcohol kills millions every year and it's legal and accepted so it's all about the amount used. Blaming those that sell alcohol isn't going to work as it's the user that makes the choice to drink so much it causes damage or accidents. Hard drugs have no place in society and are trouble, and so many people use them that some get very rich selling them. Cocaine itself isn't a poor person's drug choice, besides those that will sell their own mother for it or commit crimes. I've always been in favor of weed or it's derivatives, as the benefits have been there all along, and you can't overdose on it, besides eating too much pizza. 1 5
shackleton Posted May 27 Posted May 27 With Thailand promoting the sale of Cannabis ect it is no wonder people come to Thailand and get involved in selling the stuff For those involved it's worth the risk 💰 🤑 Money to be made Tougher Sentences needed to deter those involved It won't stop all as greed is easy 💰
Popular Post ronster Posted May 27 Popular Post Posted May 27 There is no scam ! It's idiots saying yes to thinking they will be taking back a kg or so of weed and then find out on leaving to fly home that it's 20kg plus . Or it's idiots who think they are that smart they won't get caught and a holiday with plenty of spending money would be great . 2 1
Presnock Posted May 27 Posted May 27 22 minutes ago, JackGats said: Doing drugs is a choice. By your same twisted logic, many things you use/buy on a regular basis can be construed to fund "criminals". anyone choosing to do drugs should be examined to see why they are that screwed up iMHO plus like what am I "logically" buying that funds criminals? 1 1 4
Presnock Posted May 27 Posted May 27 4 minutes ago, ronster said: There is no scam ! It's idiots saying yes to thinking they will be taking back a kg or so of weed and then find out on leaving to fly home that it's 20kg plus . Or it's idiots who think they are that smart they won't get caught and a holiday with plenty of spending money would be great . yep you began with it's IDIOTS! 1
fredwiggy Posted May 27 Posted May 27 5 minutes ago, ronster said: There is no scam ! It's idiots saying yes to thinking they will be taking back a kg or so of weed and then find out on leaving to fly home that it's 20kg plus . Or it's idiots who think they are that smart they won't get caught and a holiday with plenty of spending money would be great . 1
Presnock Posted May 27 Posted May 27 1 hour ago, FlorC said: Total BS. Murder victims don't choose to be murdered. Drug users do choose to take drugs. yeah and continually reading about "laced with fentanyl" and seems that many pushers contiually "fix" stronger drugs to make one more of a user or more expensive user IMHO but I really have no idea what goes on in the minds of users nor pushers nor producers of drugs 1 1
Popular Post fredwiggy Posted May 27 Popular Post Posted May 27 1 minute ago, Presnock said: anyone choosing to do drugs should be examined to see why they are that screwed up iMHO plus like what am I "logically" buying that funds criminals? Life is very hard, especially for those raising children or who have partners, or both. Working everyday and dealing with the barrage of daily crapola has many seeking a release. Weed and alcohol are releases, and if you can stay in the moderate use realm, you won't have any problems. It's a social thing, and many friendships are strengthened in parties and sporting events, weekends with buddies around a campfire, in a hunting camp, or fishing at the lake or ocean. I'm still not talking about hard drugs or overuse. It isn't about being screwed up. There are countless people who never use drugs or alcohol and are unstable or dangerous. Some people shouldn't use any substances as they might already be unstable and it could increase paranoia or aggression, but there isn't any way to know this until the substances are used. The problems aren't the occasional users but those who kill for profit. 3 2
impulse Posted May 27 Posted May 27 I wonder how many of them get away with it. Seems like the scheme would die on the vine if some percentage didn't get through. 1
Popular Post JackGats Posted May 27 Popular Post Posted May 27 14 minutes ago, Presnock said: anyone choosing to do drugs should be examined to see why they are that screwed up iMHO plus like what am I "logically" buying that funds criminals? You are funding child-labour, miner's deaths, cancer-causing chemicals, work-related illnesses, the destruction of Earth's ecosystems which support life ... The rest of your money you are paying in taxes to governments who fund weapons used to kill people ("innocent children", to use social warrior language). 1 1 1
FlorC Posted May 27 Posted May 27 6 minutes ago, Presnock said: yeah and continually reading about "laced with fentanyl" and seems that many pushers contiually "fix" stronger drugs to make one more of a user or more expensive user IMHO but I really have no idea what goes on in the minds of users nor pushers nor producers of drugs Drugs make people feel better in a number of ways. So there is a market for. And because it is mostly illegal > higher profits . Still no idea what goes on in the minds of users nor pushers nor producers of drugs ? 1 1
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