Why are more than 300 people in the US still dying from COVID every week?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

Experts say there is low vaccine uptake and people are not accessing treatments

 

May 24, 2025

 

More than five years after the first cases of COVID-19 were detected in the United States, hundreds of people are still dying every week. Last month, an average of about 350 people died each week from COVID, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

...

Public health experts told ABC News that although the U.S. is in a much better place than it was a few years ago, COVID is still a threat to high-risk groups.  "The fact that we're still seeing deaths just means it's still circulating, and people are still catching it," Dr. Tony Moody, a professor in the department of pediatrics in the division of infectious diseases at Duke University Medical Center, told ABC News.

 

The experts said there are a few reasons why people might still be dying from the virus, including low vaccination uptake, waning immunity and not enough people accessing treatments.

 

(more)

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/300-people-us-dying-covid-week/story?id=122068959

 

 

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports that adults 65 and older now account for 68 percent of all covid-associated hospitalizations and, between September 2023 and August 2024, nearly 90 percent of all deaths."

 

Washington Post

https://archive.ph/jXGQo#selection-527.130-535.15

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Cumulative since the start of the pandemic:

 

 

2025 only through May 17:

 

 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

 

[Lacessit]

When you have idiots on social media shrieking about how dangerous vaccines are.... QED.

[johng]

Why are more than 300 people in the US still dying from COVID every week?

 

Because they are old,obese and have other comorbidities ?

 

24 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

and not enough people accessing treatments.

Ohh treatments ??  like Ivermectin perhaps...no horse paste.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

According to recent CDC data, less than half of Americans age 65 and above had received the 2024-2025 COVID vaccine update, even though those ages account for some 90% of recent U.S. COVID deaths:

 

"As of December 14, 2024, about 49% of adults 75 years and older had received one dose of the 2024–2025 COVID-19 vaccine, compared with about 30% around the same time last year.

 

Similarly, as of December 14, 2024, about 40% of adults 65–74 years had received one dose of the 2024–2025 COVID-19 vaccine, compared with about 31% around the same time last year."

...

"The risk of death from COVID-19 for adults ages 75 years to 84 years old is about 140 times higher than for adults ages 18–29."

 

CDC - Dec. 26, 2024

 

https://www.cdc.gov/ncird/whats-new/covid-19-vaccination-rates-among-older-adults-are-up-from-last-season.html

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

8 minutes ago, johng said:

Why are more than 300 people in the US still dying from COVID every week?

 

Because they are old,obese and have other comorbidities ?

 

Ohh treatments ??  like Ivermectin perhaps...no horse paste.

 

Not worth talking about a medication that has been shown to have no benefit in treating COVID infections, and is not on most governments' lists, including the U.S. and the U.K., of approved drugs for COVID treatment.

 

Here's what the ABC News report was referencing:

 

Not accessing COVID treatments

"Currently, there are treatments for COVID-19 patients in the form of antiviral pills, including molnupiravir from Merck and Ridgeback Biotherapeutics and Paxlovid from Pfizer.

 

Both treatments must be started within five days of COVID symptoms appearing and are given twice daily for five days, with Merck's being four pills each time and Pfizer's being three pills each.

 

There is also remdesivir, an intravenous medication that must be started within seven days of COVID symptoms appearing."

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/300-people-us-dying-covid-week/story?id=122068959

 

A big problem with the two antiviral pills above is that by the time people realize they're sick, get tested to confirm they have COVID, and then see a private doctor to obtain a prescription under the U.S. medical care system, the "within 5 days of symptoms" deadline may well have already passed.

 

 

 

[WayWokeWhiteGuy]

Because of Trump’s incompetently!!!!

 

Had he been on the ball, we’d have none of it.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

And there's also this:

 

A Majority Of Americans Have No Or Low Awareness Of Paxlovid, The At-Home COVID-19 Treatment

September 25, 2024

 

"Oral Paxlovid (nirmatrelvir-ritonavir) is highly effective at preventing hospitalization and death from COVID-19, yet it has been remarkably underused, even by patients at highest risk from COVID-19, since its December 2021 introduction in the US.

...

To examine public awareness and perceptions of Paxlovid that might help explain its underuse, we conducted a nationally representative survey of 1,430 US adults in July 2023. A majority of respondents (85 percent) had no or low awareness of Paxlovid, including 31 percent who had never heard of it.

 

Even among those who were aware of the drug, many held misperceptions about its effectiveness (39 percent), adverse effects (86 percent), and requisite timing (61 percent) that could lead to underuse. Lower awareness and misperceptions were more common among medically vulnerable and disadvantaged populations who might benefit most from Paxlovid access, including adults unvaccinated against COVID-19, those with lower levels of education, and Black and Hispanic or Latino adults."

 

(more)

 

Health Affairs

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2023.01641

 

 

[proton]

7 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

And there's also this:

 

A Majority Of Americans Have No Or Low Awareness Of Paxlovid, The At-Home COVID-19 Treatment

September 25, 2024

 

"Oral Paxlovid (nirmatrelvir-ritonavir) is highly effective at preventing hospitalization and death from COVID-19, yet it has been remarkably underused, even by patients at highest risk from COVID-19, since its December 2021 introduction in the US.

...

To examine public awareness and perceptions of Paxlovid that might help explain its underuse, we conducted a nationally representative survey of 1,430 US adults in July 2023. A majority of respondents (85 percent) had no or low awareness of Paxlovid, including 31 percent who had never heard of it.

 

Even among those who were aware of the drug, many held misperceptions about its effectiveness (39 percent), adverse effects (86 percent), and requisite timing (61 percent) that could lead to underuse. Lower awareness and misperceptions were more common among medically vulnerable and disadvantaged populations who might benefit most from Paxlovid access, including adults unvaccinated against COVID-19, those with lower levels of education, and Black and Hispanic or Latino adults."

 

(more)

 

Health Affairs

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2023.01641

 

 

 

 

Is Paxlovid available in Thailand?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

10 minutes ago, proton said:

 

 

Is Paxlovid available in Thailand?

 

I believe so, but can't say for certain. And if it is, it's probably going to be quite expensive here and available at limited locations:

 

Just as one example, one post from the following broader thread:
 

 

 

 

Thailand-approved Paxlovid cuts Covid death rate by 70%: medic

 

THURSDAY, DECEMBER 15, 2022

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/general/40023095

 

 

[jas007]

51 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Experts say there is low vaccine uptake and people are not accessing treatments

 

May 24, 2025

 

More than five years after the first cases of COVID-19 were detected in the United States, hundreds of people are still dying every week. Last month, an average of about 350 people died each week from COVID, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

...

Public health experts told ABC News that although the U.S. is in a much better place than it was a few years ago, COVID is still a threat to high-risk groups.  "The fact that we're still seeing deaths just means it's still circulating, and people are still catching it," Dr. Tony Moody, a professor in the department of pediatrics in the division of infectious diseases at Duke University Medical Center, told ABC News.

 

The experts said there are a few reasons why people might still be dying from the virus, including low vaccination uptake, waning immunity and not enough people accessing treatments.

 

(more)

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/300-people-us-dying-covid-week/story?id=122068959

 

 

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports that adults 65 and older now account for 68 percent of all covid-associated hospitalizations and, between September 2023 and August 2024, nearly 90 percent of all deaths."

 

Washington Post

https://archive.ph/jXGQo#selection-527.130-535.15

 

 

The "experts" are full of it.  People die about once a second in this world.  And I'm sure if the US medical authorities are up to their old tricks, they paste the "COVID" death label on everyone they can possibly round up.  Mostly old people with multiple co-morbidities.  But hey, the hospitals get extra money every time that happens, right?  

 

Nothing to see here. Move along. 

[impulse]

18 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Lower awareness and misperceptions were more common among medically vulnerable and disadvantaged populations who might benefit most from Paxlovid access, including adults unvaccinated against COVID-19, those with lower levels of education, and Black and Hispanic or Latino adults."

 

Seeing as how that's by prescription only in the USofA, isn't that an indictment of health care professionals?

 

[johng]

Forgot to mention  the important statistic of how many had received

1 or more "safe and effective"

 

And vitamin D as a preventative..you know they told everyone to stay home  out of the sunlight ...no effective treatments  that don't happen to involve the same companies pushing safe and effectives  !!!  nothing suspicious there of course. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

One important point here is that many of those U.S. seniors dying from COVID don't have to be dying, if more had been vaccinated:

 

Per the U.S. CDC, the 2024-2025 COVID vaccine reduced the risk of hospitalization from COVID in seniors age 65 and above by 45-46%, compared with all seniors who had NOT received the 2024-2025 vaccine.

 

"During September 24, 2023–August 11, 2024, approximately 800,000 COVID-19–associated hospitalizations occurred in the United States (1); adults aged ≥65 years accounted for 70% of these hospitalizations."

 

"COVID-19 vaccination averted approximately 68,000 hospitalizations during the 2023–24 respiratory season."

 

" Among immunocompetent adults aged ≥65 years from two CDC networks, VE [vaccine effectiveness] estimates against COVID-19–associated hospitalization were 45% (95% CI = 36%–53%) and 46% (95% CI = 26%–60%) during the first 7–119 days after vaccination."

 

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/74/wr/mm7406a1.htm

 

 

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Experts say there is low vaccine uptake and people are not accessing treatments

 

May 24, 2025

 

More than five years after the first cases of COVID-19 were detected in the United States, hundreds of people are still dying every week. Last month, an average of about 350 people died each week from COVID, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

...

Public health experts told ABC News that although the U.S. is in a much better place than it was a few years ago, COVID is still a threat to high-risk groups.  "The fact that we're still seeing deaths just means it's still circulating, and people are still catching it," Dr. Tony Moody, a professor in the department of pediatrics in the division of infectious diseases at Duke University Medical Center, told ABC News.

 

The experts said there are a few reasons why people might still be dying from the virus, including low vaccination uptake, waning immunity and not enough people accessing treatments.

 

(more)

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/300-people-us-dying-covid-week/story?id=122068959

 

 

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports that adults 65 and older now account for 68 percent of all covid-associated hospitalizations and, between September 2023 and August 2024, nearly 90 percent of all deaths."

 

Washington Post

https://archive.ph/jXGQo#selection-527.130-535.15

 

 

Same experts that told us...

3.4% mortality rate,

vaccines stop the spread,

6' apart and using a mask

 

 Those experts?

[frank83628]

16 minutes ago, johng said:

Forgot to mention  the important statistic of how many had received

1 or more "safe and effective"

 

And vitamin D as a preventative..you know they told everyone to stay home  out of the sunlight ...no effective treatments  that don't happen to involve the same companies pushing safe and effectives  !!!  nothing suspicious there of course. 

Also Natural immunity didn't exist

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

18 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Seeing as how that's by prescription only in the USofA, isn't that an indictment of health care professionals?

 

 

Most significant drugs in the U.S. are by doctor's prescription only. That's the way the U.S. medical system works, now and in the past.

 

Thailand is a bit looser in that regard, in that you can obtain things like routine antibiotics here without a doctor's prescription. But still, a lot of the more serious medications also are only available here with a doctor's order at hospital pharmacies. And some of the more advanced medicines may not yet be available here at all....

 

 

[johng]

12 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Also Natural immunity didn't exist

 Still doesn't in the minds of the indoctrinated

 hence the need for  un ending boosters of "safe and effectives"

[Moonlover]

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

"The risk of death from COVID-19 for adults ages 75 years to 84 years old is about 140 times higher than for adults ages 18–29."

 

 

"The risk of death from (insert any ailment you care mention) for adults ages 75 years to 84 years old is about 140 times higher than for adults ages 18–29."

[connda]

Why are more than 300 people in the US still dying from COVID every week?

 

Why are more than 300 people in the US still dying from with COVID every week?

There!  Fixed it.  Now you know! 

Anyway, check the stats.  There's over 500 flu related deaths each week as well.  Are people dying from the flu or is the flu a contributory cause exacerbated by other comorbidities.  Pneumonia kills close to 1000 per week in the US.  People die ffs.
If it's not Trump living in the minds of a certain subset of AN members, then COVID is living in your minds.  Your morbid fear of Covid is irrational.  It must be hell living in that constant state of fear and loathing.  You should probably talk to a professional as you exhibit all the symptoms of mysophobia.  Really - get a life.  

[frank83628]

6 minutes ago, johng said:

 Still doesn't in the minds of the indoctrinated

 hence the need for  un ending boosters of "safe and effectives"

BoJo was going for herd immunity in the beginning, then covid became a political weapon (as everywhere), any deaths would have been used against him, so he buckled.  Sweden fell out of the media coverage too 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

8 minutes ago, johng said:

 Still doesn't in the minds of the indoctrinated

 hence the need for  un ending boosters of "safe and effectives"

 

The U.S. CDC reported last fall that receiving the 2023-2024 COVID vaccine reduced the risk of COVID critical illness [defined as ICU admission or death] in adults age 18 and above by:

 

--67% during the first two months post vaccination

--56% during months three and four post vaccination, and by

--40% during months five and six post vaccination.

 

I'll take those odds, thank you!

 

[connda]

3 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

BoJo was going for herd immunity in the beginning, then covid became a political weapon (as everywhere), any deaths would have been used against him, so he buckled.  Sweden fell out of the media coverage too 

Yeah, everyone in Sweden died of Covid and nobody was left to report on it. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

5 minutes ago, connda said:

Why are more than 300 people in the US still dying from with COVID every week?

There!  Fixed it.  Now you know! 

 

Except you're wrong, as the CDC chart for 2025 below shows:

 

 

At least 67% of the reported COVID deaths in the U.S. thus far this year had COVID as the underlying [main] cause. Only the remaining one-third had COVID as a contributing cause.

 

But hey, keep making up stuff as you go along...

 

 

[still kicking]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

When you have idiots on social media shrieking about how dangerous vaccines are.... QED.

Yes, but I can't mention names 

[impulse]

19 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

"The risk of death from COVID-19 for adults ages 75 years to 84 years old is about 140 times higher than for adults ages 18–29."

 

"The risk of death from (insert any ailment you care mention) for adults ages 75 years to 84 years old is about 140 times higher than for adults ages 18–29."

 

I think it's also very telling that the recommendation for boosters is the same, regardless of risk profiles, and don't consider the side effects. 

 

I think they're still jabbing toddlers in spite of miniscule risk and a potential lifetime of long term side effects that we can't possibly know until a long time has passed and someone studies them.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

30 minutes ago, connda said:

Anyway, check the stats.  There's over 500 flu related deaths each week as well. 

 

COVID has killed far more Americans annually in recent years than has the flu, as the chart below clearly shows:

 

https://www.cdc.gov/respiratory-viruses/data/illness-severity.html?CDC_AAref_Val=https://www.cdc.gov/respiratory-viruses/data-research/dashboard/illness-severity.htm

 

 

But the numbers have been getting closer in 2025, as this was a very bad year for the flu in the U.S., and COVID thus far in 2025 has been comparatively mild compared to recent years.

 

The CDC says the U.S. had between 6,300 – 52,000 flu deaths annually between 2011 and 2024. If you add all those years together, the total for flu is still going to be far less -- less than half by my quick count -- compared to the 1.2 million U.S. COVID deaths only since 2020.

 

 

https://www.cdc.gov/flu-burden/php/about/index.html

 

 

[frank83628]

20 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

 

But hey, keep making up stuff as you go along...

 

 

No need, Youre doing enough for everyone

[BKKBike09]

Yawn. Doesn't the OP get tired of this stuff?

 

People die from poor choices all the time. Yet why this morbid obsession with Covid? Risk of death from smoking, drinking, eating too much salt, not wearing a seatbelt etc etc etc can all be reduced/prevented through choice. Same as with Covid vaccination (or any vaccination).

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

3 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

No need, Youre doing enough for everyone

 

Unlike you, everything I post here is sourced to credible sources and includes the supporting weblinks for the info.

 

None of my  sources are those with long histories of COVID misinformation or unknown social media types trolling the gutters of the internet.