a grim milestone but Putin don’t care

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/04/europe/russia-war-casualties-1-million-ukraine-intl
 

Casualties, not deaths. 250,000 dead so far.

3 hours ago, gargamon said:

Casualties, not deaths. 250,000 dead so far.

Why read the link before you post, that's just crazy ... 

 

Casualty doesn't mean dead ... what 🙄

 

 

250,000 dead. That compares to 15,000 killed over a period of 9 years in Afghanistan, which brought about the fall of the Soviet empire.

 

The other 750,00 wounded - what proportion of those soldiers were put back into combat, and how many were permanently incapacitated?

 

Either way, Putin's butcher's bill still grows.

3 hours ago, Lacessit said:

250,000 dead. That compares to 15,000 killed over a period of 9 years in Afghanistan, which brought about the fall of the Soviet empire.

 

The other 750,00 wounded - what proportion of those soldiers were put back into combat, and how many were permanently incapacitated?

 

Either way, Putin's butcher's bill still grows.

The figures are  quoted by cnn, don't forget that minor detail, the chief liar of the lying lamestream media

It's just 2 kids fighting. They hate each other, and they’re fighting in a park, and you try and pull them apart. They don’t want to be pulled. Sometimes you’re better off letting them fight for a while and then pulling them apart.

2 hours ago, Celsius said:

It's just 2 kids fighting. They hate each other, and they’re fighting in a park, and you try and pull them apart. They don’t want to be pulled. Sometimes you’re better off letting them fight for a while and then pulling them apart.

Gee. That's exactly what trump says. Don't have a mind of your own?

June 6th was D-Day; less than a year later, it was over for Germany.    Compare that to Putin's spending over three years trying to conquer Ukraine. 

1 hour ago, Mike_Hunt said:

June 6th was D-Day; less than a year later, it was over for Germany.    Compare that to Putin's spending over three years trying to conquer Ukraine. 

Greater than 40 million active military during WW2  ..  an order of magnitude greater.

RIP

12 hours ago, gargamon said:

Casualties, not deaths. 250,000 dead so far.

It is still remarkable that Russia can sustain the equivalent of the worst day in the Vietnam War, everyday, 7 days a week for more than 1,200 days now. Eventually they should bleed out.

 

 

The deadliest day for the U.S. military during the Vietnam War was January 31, 1968, at the start of the Tet Offensive, with 246 American soldiers killed.

4 hours ago, Celsius said:

It's just 2 kids fighting. They hate each other, and they’re fighting in a park, and you try and pull them apart. They don’t want to be pulled. Sometimes you’re better off letting them fight for a while and then pulling them apart.

You're quoting 47 ?!?

Is this sarcasm?

12 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

You're quoting 47 ?!?

Is this sarcasm?

Not from him. Maybe it's the low air quality in Toronto these days.

8 hours ago, frank83628 said:

The figures are  quoted by cnn, don't forget that minor detail, the chief liar of the lying lamestream media

CNN are quoting figures published by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), a think tank in Washington, DC, as are several other news outlets.

 

Other research institutes have come up with similar numbers, including the UK Defence Ministry.

 

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/number-of-russian-soldiers-killed-in-ukraine-war-may-reach-250-000-uk-defense-ministry/3515522

2 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

CNN are quoting figures published by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), a think tank in Washington, DC, as are several other news outlets.

 

Other research institutes have come up with similar numbers, including the UK Defence Ministry.

 

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/number-of-russian-soldiers-killed-in-ukraine-war-may-reach-250-000-uk-defense-ministry/3515522

So estimates from British and Americans, and Washington.... nothing from Russia itself though aye.... just western propaganda for the sheeple. if Russia said 1 million Ukrainians you'd all deny it as Russian propaganda....  dont younsee how it works?

29 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

CNN are quoting figures published by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), a think tank in Washington, DC, as are several other news outlets.

 

Other research institutes have come up with similar numbers, including the UK Defence Ministry.

Do they publish Ukrainian losses as well?

 

2 hours ago, frank83628 said:

So estimates from British and Americans, and Washington.... nothing from Russia itself though aye.... just western propaganda for the sheeple. if Russia said 1 million Ukrainians you'd all deny it as Russian propaganda....  dont younsee how it works?

I'll take this response as an acknowledgment that you were wrong in your earlier post. That CNN were not lying, they were simply reporting figures from the CSIS report.

 

I have no interest in your 'propaganda' nonsense.

 

1 hour ago, VBer said:

Do they publish Ukrainian losses as well?

 

 

The CNN/CSIS does mention Ukraine's losses, but you're just as capable of reading it as I am.

10 hours ago, frank83628 said:

The figures are  quoted by cnn, don't forget that minor detail, the chief liar of the lying lamestream media

Get real, Russia last listed military casualties in Ukraine in September 2022.

 

So the CSIS, BBC, CIA, Wikipedia and Russian cemeteries are all lying, and you are telling the truth.

 

Why don't you post your statistics? We can always use a good laugh.

14 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

The CNN/CSIS does mention Ukraine's losses, but you're just as capable of reading it as I am.

Probably I just haven’t noticed it. So what’s their number on Ukrainian losses?

15 hours ago, Lacessit said:

250,000 dead. That compares to 15,000 killed over a period of 9 years in Afghanistan, which brought about the fall of the Soviet empire.

 

The Soviet Empire did not fall ---- it withdrew all its troops from  (the then eastern block countries )  after being promised by the west that they would not join NATO.

The Promise at the time was the headlines in all newspapers , 1990,---Not an inch to the East.  Gorbachev Believed  it. 

 

Photos and transcripts released by the White house under freedom information act , December 12, 2017

 

 

Declassified documents show security assurances against NATO expansion to Soviet leaders from

Baker, Bush, Genscher, Kohl, Gates, Mitterrand, Thatcher, Hurd, Major, and Woerner

 

 

Washington D.C., December 12, 2017 – U.S. Secretary of State James Baker’s famous “not one inch eastward” assurance about NATO expansion

in his meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, was part of a cascade of assurances about Soviet security

given by Western leaders to Gorbachev and other Soviet officials throughout the process of German unification in 1990 and on into 1991,

according to declassified U.S., Soviet, German, British and French documents posted today by the National Security Archive at George Washington University (http://nsarchive.gwu.edu).

 

 

38 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Get real, Russia last listed military casualties in Ukraine in September 2022.

 

So the CSIS, BBC, CIA, Wikipedia and Russian cemeteries are all lying, and you are telling the truth.

 

Why don't you post your statistics? We can always use a good laugh.

So were supoosed to believe the cia, bbc and wikipedia when its come to russia....if  you want a laugh, just re read you comment...Russian cemeteries what a 🤡

 

17 hours ago, frank83628 said:

So were supoosed to believe the cia, bbc and wikipedia when its come to russia....if  you want a laugh, just re read you comment...Russian cemeteries what a 🤡

 

So post your stats, or are you sticking with 5700 odd dead from 2022?

 

Your credibility on ASEAN is zero, comrade.

17 hours ago, oxo1947 said:

 

The Soviet Empire did not fall ---- it withdrew all its troops from  (the then eastern block countries )  after being promised by the west that they would not join NATO.

The Promise at the time was the headlines in all newspapers , 1990,---Not an inch to the East.  Gorbachev Believed  it. 

 

Photos and transcripts released by the White house under freedom information act , December 12, 2017

 

 

Declassified documents show security assurances against NATO expansion to Soviet leaders from

Baker, Bush, Genscher, Kohl, Gates, Mitterrand, Thatcher, Hurd, Major, and Woerner

 

 

Washington D.C., December 12, 2017 – U.S. Secretary of State James Baker’s famous “not one inch eastward” assurance about NATO expansion

in his meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, was part of a cascade of assurances about Soviet security

given by Western leaders to Gorbachev and other Soviet officials throughout the process of German unification in 1990 and on into 1991,

according to declassified U.S., Soviet, German, British and French documents posted today by the National Security Archive at George Washington University (http://nsarchive.gwu.edu).

 

 

Every Eastern Bloc nation that was stifled by the dead hand of Russian command economics wanted no part of the Russian Federation. One can argue about the causes of the Soviet Union's fall, Afghanistan was one factor.

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Every Eastern Bloc nation that was stifled by the dead hand of Russian command economics wanted no part of the Russian Federation.

 

I dont think that was the point-- Lacessit. Economically it was open that was the agreement-- anyone could set up Business there. 

I had  2 friends who were importing 2nd hand Levi Jeans into Poland  I month after the agreement.

All the houses in east Berlin where given back to previous  owners (or relations of )

 

  But to let it Join an military organization (basically run by America) wasn't quite part of what - NOT AN INCH TO THE EAST meant.

Yep - those brave, patriotic selfless Ukrainian troops have routed the evil Ruskies and killed millions of them, and have now chased the Cossacks back to the Dnipropetrovsk Oblast. The end is in sight - they'll be running back to Moscow anytime now or surrendering enmass.  

Putin has made a number of mistakes .

Not caring much about Russian lives , is a blame on him.

Still plenty of soldiers left in a country of 146 million.

 

Everyday is a day closer to beating the Ukraine.

 

On 6/7/2025 at 10:16 AM, VBer said:

Do they publish Ukrainian losses as well?

 

LOL... in the very same article that reported Russia's casualties, CNN also reported Ukraine's.  If you did read that article, you probably blew a gasket and had to stop early.

  

They know from the cemeteries filling up with lots of new Graves they know the numbered,and walking wounded soldiers on pensions

Tomorrow is the big day.