RFK Jr just dropped a 10 Megaton Bomb on the CDC

[Red Phoenix]

RFK Jr's opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal raised quite a stir. 

See the very recent thread with comments on that piece

> https://aseannow.com/topic/1363169-rfk-jr-hhs-moves-to-restore-public-trust-in-vaccines/

But oh boy, that was child's play compared to his response on the backlash he got from CNN on that piece. 

He sure does mean business, totally annihilating CNN's attack on him in his post on X yesterday. 

 

Here a shortened version of his long post: 

> Yesterday, I retired 17 members of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices or ACIP, the CDC external panel that wields the grave responsibility of adding new vaccines to the recommended childhood schedule.
 

Over the coming days, I will use this platform to announce new members to populate ACIP. None of these individuals will be ideological anti-vaxxers. They will be highly credentialed physicians and scientists who will make extremely consequential public health determinations by applying evidence-based decision-making with objectivity and common sense.
 

I will also be tweeting examples of the historical corruption at ACIP to help the public understand why this clean sweep was necessary.
The most outrageous example of ACIP’s malevolent malpractice has been its stubborn unwillingness to demand adequate safety trials before recommending new vaccines for our children. Today, a compliant American child receives between 69 and 92 routine vaccines (depending on brand/dictated dosage) from conception to 18 years of age. This is up from 11 shots in 1986.
ACIP has recommended each of these additional jabs without requiring placebo-controlled trials for any of them. This means that no one can scientifically ascertain whether these products are averting more problems than they are causing.
Many vaccine promoters have challenged this assertion. They are always wrong. Last week, CNN, which has devolved into a shameless propagandist for Big Pharma, triumphantly announced that it had proof that my pronouncement that “there have been no placebo-controlled safety trials for any routine vaccines” was false. CNN gleefully proclaimed that it had found 257 placebo-controlled studies for routine vaccines.
So, allow me a moment to deconstruct CNN’s claims. Warning: this post may only be sufferable for science geeks like myself.
< read the full post for the detailed facts and figures that he provides > 

It is time to stop playing games, such as CNN’s false gotcha. We have gone from 3 routine injections by age one in 1986 (the year the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act passed) to 25 routine injections by age one in 2025 (which now does not include Covid-19 vaccine). Because of the 1986 Act, every one of these products, save one, was developed by companies knowing they would almost never be liable for serious harm.
During this same period, chronic diseases in our children exploded, most of which are caused by immune system dysregulation. If we are to identify the exposures that are causing this epidemic of autoimmune diseases, we need to rule out products given dozens of times to young children, specifically to modify the immune system, as potential culprits.
Our infants and children deserve the best safety trials possible to keep them safe. We should care as much about every child who could be injured by one of these products as we do every child who could be injured by an infectious disease. We must protect all children.

 

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[Stiddle Mump]

AFAIK, CNN get over60% of their revenue from Big Pharma adds.

 

Wonder if they know what side their bread is buttered?!

 

What an absolute waste of space they are. Along with the BBC (UK) and most of the west's MSM.

 

The one big positive thing is that Americans and some Europeans are waking up. Don't know about Canada, NZ and OZ. Are they doomed?

[Red Phoenix]

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

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The one big positive thing is that Americans and some Europeans are waking up. Don't know about Canada, NZ and OZ. Are they doomed?

 

Awe-inspiring resistance and initiatives against the mRNA vaccine lies are ongoing in Australia, New Zealand and Canada.  But of course you won't hear about that in the mainstream media.  

[chickenslegs]

4 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Today, a compliant American child receives between 69 and 92 routine vaccines (depending on brand/dictated dosage) from conception to 18 years of age.

Sound unbelievable. Is it true?

[Red Phoenix]

42 minutes ago, chickenslegs said:

Sound unbelievable. Is it true?

[impulse]

3 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

That needs to be plotted against Autism rates and the rates of other debilitating childhood diseases like obesity. 

 

I'm not claiming a causative correlation, but I'm glad we finally have someone who sees the problem and will look at the data.

 

Next, the wingnuts (I'm one of them) need to track where the 17 retired members end up, and at what salaries.  That'll probably 'splain a lot.

 

 

 

 

[stevenl]

5 hours ago, impulse said:

I'm glad we finally have someone who sees the problem and will look at the data.

Unfortunately you're not kidding.

[jaywalker2]

11 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

RFK Jr's opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal raised quite a stir. 

See the very recent thread with comments on that piece

> https://aseannow.com/topic/1363169-rfk-jr-hhs-moves-to-restore-public-trust-in-vaccines/

But oh boy, that was child's play compared to his response on the backlash he got from CNN on that piece. 

He sure does mean business, totally annihilating CNN's attack on him in his post on X yesterday. 

 

Here a shortened version of his long post: 

> Yesterday, I retired 17 members of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices or ACIP, the CDC external panel that wields the grave responsibility of adding new vaccines to the recommended childhood schedule.
 

Over the coming days, I will use this platform to announce new members to populate ACIP. None of these individuals will be ideological anti-vaxxers. They will be highly credentialed physicians and scientists who will make extremely consequential public health determinations by applying evidence-based decision-making with objectivity and common sense.
 

I will also be tweeting examples of the historical corruption at ACIP to help the public understand why this clean sweep was necessary.
The most outrageous example of ACIP’s malevolent malpractice has been its stubborn unwillingness to demand adequate safety trials before recommending new vaccines for our children. Today, a compliant American child receives between 69 and 92 routine vaccines (depending on brand/dictated dosage) from conception to 18 years of age. This is up from 11 shots in 1986.
ACIP has recommended each of these additional jabs without requiring placebo-controlled trials for any of them. This means that no one can scientifically ascertain whether these products are averting more problems than they are causing.
Many vaccine promoters have challenged this assertion. They are always wrong. Last week, CNN, which has devolved into a shameless propagandist for Big Pharma, triumphantly announced that it had proof that my pronouncement that “there have been no placebo-controlled safety trials for any routine vaccines” was false. CNN gleefully proclaimed that it had found 257 placebo-controlled studies for routine vaccines.
So, allow me a moment to deconstruct CNN’s claims. Warning: this post may only be sufferable for science geeks like myself.
< read the full post for the detailed facts and figures that he provides > 

It is time to stop playing games, such as CNN’s false gotcha. We have gone from 3 routine injections by age one in 1986 (the year the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act passed) to 25 routine injections by age one in 2025 (which now does not include Covid-19 vaccine). Because of the 1986 Act, every one of these products, save one, was developed by companies knowing they would almost never be liable for serious harm.
During this same period, chronic diseases in our children exploded, most of which are caused by immune system dysregulation. If we are to identify the exposures that are causing this epidemic of autoimmune diseases, we need to rule out products given dozens of times to young children, specifically to modify the immune system, as potential culprits.
Our infants and children deserve the best safety trials possible to keep them safe. We should care as much about every child who could be injured by one of these products as we do every child who could be injured by an infectious disease. We must protect all children.

 

= = = 

A bunch of lies. All of the first generation of the vaccines have been tested against the CDC definition of a placebo. Bobby prefers to define placebo in his own way, as either water or salt water, but this generally isn't feasible especially when you already have an effective version of the vaccine available.

 

Plus, remember the Salk trials? 400,000 people were injected with the Salk vaccine and another 200,000 received a saline placebo. They knew the vaccine was effective because 16 people died in the placebo group and 60 werre paralyzed while nobody died or was paralyzed in the vaccine group.  Now what if you had been in the placebo group?

 

In other words, if you have an effective vaccine you're risking death and severe illness by withholding it from people. Moreover, vaccine recipients are extensively followed after receiving a vaccine to see if any problems arise that weren't caught by the RCT's.  This system is built to detect any suspicion of harm, not disguise it.

[jaywalker2]

7 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Awe-inspiring resistance and initiatives against the mRNA vaccine lies are ongoing in Australia, New Zealand and Canada.  But of course you won't hear about that in the mainstream media.  

Yeah, and in the 1980's and early 1990's a panic over alleged atanic rituals swept the US. Numerous cases were cited, victims went on talk shows to discuss how they had been molested, teachers at nursery schools and kindergartens were stigmatized, psychotherapists who interviewed the children declareds the validity of the claims. And it all turned out to be fake. No evidence ever turned up that Satanic cults were operating on a mass basis or that any of these incidents were true.

[Red Phoenix]

11 hours ago, jaywalker2 said:

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Plus, remember the Salk trials? 400,000 people were injected with the Salk vaccine and another 200,000 received a saline placebo. They knew the vaccine was effective because 16 people died in the placebo group and 60 were paralyzed while nobody died or was paralyzed in the vaccine group.  

...

 

 

Better start with providing correct data when making a claim.

✅ Accurate Overview of the 1954 Salk Polio Vaccine Trials

• Number of children involved:
  Around 1.8 million children in the U.S. participated in the trial.

  • Approximately 440,000 received the actual Salk vaccine.

  • Approximately 210,000 received a saline placebo.

  • Another ~1.2 million were observed controls — they received no injection but were monitored.

• Design of the study:

  • It was a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial — a landmark in medical research design.

  • Conducted by the National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis (NFIP) and led by Dr. Thomas Francis Jr., not Salk himself.

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✅ Results of the Trial (announced April 12, 1955):

• Efficacy: The vaccine was found to be about 80–90% effective in preventing paralytic polio.

• Polio cases:

  • Vaccine group: Fewer than 60 cases of paralytic polio.

  • Placebo group: About 140 cases.

  • Observed control group: ~1,000 cases (out of the larger, unvaccinated group).

• Deaths & paralysis:

  • No deaths were reported in either group directly attributed to the vaccine or the placebo.

[Red Phoenix]

11 hours ago, jaywalker2 said:

18 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Awe-inspiring resistance and initiatives against the mRNA vaccine lies are ongoing in Australia, New Zealand and Canada.  But of course you won't hear about that in the mainstream media.  

Yeah, and in the 1980's and early 1990's a panic over alleged atanic rituals swept the US. Numerous cases were cited, victims went on talk shows to discuss how they had been molested, teachers at nursery schools and kindergartens were stigmatized, psychotherapists who interviewed the children declared the validity of the claims. And it all turned out to be fake. No evidence ever turned up that Satanic cults were operating on a mass basis or that any of these incidents were true.

 

What are you trying to prove when citing a case that was covered extensively in the mainstream media? 

The resistance and initiatives against the mRNA vaccine lies are numerous and ongoing in Australia, New Zealand and Canada, but you will find crickets about it in the mainstream media.

Check out the index-page of this Covid/Vaccine sub-forum, where you will find many articles reporting about the disaster and the present cover-up in those countries. 

[jaywalker2]

3 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

 

Better start with providing correct data when making a claim.

✅ Accurate Overview of the 1954 Salk Polio Vaccine Trials

• Number of children involved:
  Around 1.8 million children in the U.S. participated in the trial.

  • Approximately 440,000 received the actual Salk vaccine.

  • Approximately 210,000 received a saline placebo.

  • Another ~1.2 million were observed controls — they received no injection but were monitored.

• Design of the study:

  • It was a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial — a landmark in medical research design.

  • Conducted by the National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis (NFIP) and led by Dr. Thomas Francis Jr., not Salk himself.

---

✅ Results of the Trial (announced April 12, 1955):

• Efficacy: The vaccine was found to be about 80–90% effective in preventing paralytic polio.

• Polio cases:

  • Vaccine group: Fewer than 60 cases of paralytic polio.

  • Placebo group: About 140 cases.

  • Observed control group: ~1,000 cases (out of the larger, unvaccinated group).

• Deaths & paralysis:

  • No deaths were reported in either group directly attributed to the vaccine or the placebo.

I got the numbers from Paul Offit

https://pauloffit.substack.com/p/the-casual-cruelty-of-placebo-controlled

 

[Stiddle Mump]

3 hours ago, jaywalker2 said:

I got the numbers from Paul Offit

https://pauloffit.substack.com/p/the-casual-cruelty-of-placebo-controlled

 

Just read the contents of the link.

 

What a load of monumental humbug. Who is he trying to convince; his fellow sacked white-coats?

[Red Phoenix]

3 hours ago, jaywalker2 said:

6 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Better start with providing correct data when making a claim.

✅ Accurate Overview of the 1954 Salk Polio Vaccine Trials

• Number of children involved:
  Around 1.8 million children in the U.S. participated in the trial.

  • Approximately 440,000 received the actual Salk vaccine.

  • Approximately 210,000 received a saline placebo.

  • Another ~1.2 million were observed controls — they received no injection but were monitored.

• Design of the study:

  • It was a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial — a landmark in medical research design.

  • Conducted by the National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis (NFIP) and led by Dr. Thomas Francis Jr., not Salk himself.

---

✅ Results of the Trial (announced April 12, 1955):

• Efficacy: The vaccine was found to be about 80–90% effective in preventing paralytic polio.

• Polio cases:

  • Vaccine group: Fewer than 60 cases of paralytic polio.

  • Placebo group: About 140 cases.

  • Observed control group: ~1,000 cases (out of the larger, unvaccinated group).

• Deaths & paralysis:

  • No deaths were reported in either group directly attributed to the vaccine or the placebo.

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I got the numbers from Paul Offit

https://pauloffit.substack.com/p/the-casual-cruelty-of-placebo-controlled

 

 

The article is a failed misinformation attempt masquerading as compassion. 

The comments section - with many contributors not buying it - is way more interesting than Offit's hit-piece.

 

 

[jaywalker2]

47 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

The article is a failed misinformation attempt masquerading as compassion. 

The comments section - with many contributors not buying it - is way more interesting than Offit's hit-piece.

 

 

https://t.co/Aw0S36nD2a

 

Here's a link summarising the results of studies on the effect of vaccination in pregnancy. I post it to show you how meticulously all aspects of this vaccine are being studied by legitimate researchers

[Stiddle Mump]

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

The article is a failed misinformation attempt masquerading as compassion. 

The comments section - with many contributors not buying it - is way more interesting than Offit's hit-piece.

The question has to be asked; 'what is a vaccine?'

 

Take the 'Salk' survey of yesteryear. On the face of it, thousands were involved. In truth NONE were involved.

 

Let me explain. Polio is caused by toxicity. If one is unfortunate enough to become sick because of some poison or other, the body will do its very best to rid itself of the undesirables that caused the sickness. The methods of toxin elimination are classed - by the white-coats - as the disease. However; in reality, they are nature at work. The symptoms are nature looking after the person. Trying to get it back to optimal health. The body cannot always work as it should. Too much toxicity. For too long a period. A weak body defence. And the results can be tragic.

 

Now; if we take a sample of a symptom; say a glob of snot, and grow it in a lab, and say 'there is bloom' as proof that we have a virus, then I would say 'where is the control running alongside?' Could it not be the lab procedure that gave the result? Well, we will never know in most lab experiments. But we do know that there was no isolation and purification to start with. And TBH, even that is not important in 'TRUTH' terms. If these white-coats were really interested in the cause of the sickness they could find out by bathing in 'DDT' or pouring some 'Agent Orange' over their cornflakes.

 

Let's move on. The entity, that has been grown in a lab, then undergoes new procedures. Eventually there is something that gets injected into an arm.

 

Data is then collected on who gets the sickness that took the 'safe' and 'effective' jab. And who got sick that didn't have the jab, In truth. As far as the data is concerned, it doesn't matter if the person was 'vaccinated' or not. It matters not if the subject gets a 'hot' jab or a 'placebo'. The data is irrelevant. The sickness - in this instance - polio, is caused by toxicity. Nothing whatsoever to do with anything in a jab.

 

Lot of hood-winking going on.

[Stiddle Mump]

59 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

https://t.co/Aw0S36nD2a

 

Here's a link summarising the results of studies on the effect of vaccination in pregnancy. I post it to show you how meticulously all aspects of this vaccine are being studied by legitimate researchers

Had a look. I can't accept that they are honest.

 

Any toxic entity injected into the body will cause harm. How much? Depends on a number of factors.

[jaywalker2]

Unbelievable. You won't believe anything that contradicts your biases. This is called the mass delusion of crowds. Congratulations, you're a participant.

[jaywalker2]

35 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

The question has to be asked; 'what is a vaccine?'

 

Take the 'Salk' survey of yesteryear. On the face of it, thousands were involved. In truth NONE were involved.

 

Let me explain. Polio is caused by toxicity. If one is unfortunate enough to become sick because of some poison or other, the body will do its very best to rid itself of the undesirables that caused the sickness. The methods of toxin elimination are classed - by the white-coats - as the disease. However; in reality, they are nature at work. The symptoms are nature looking after the person. Trying to get it back to optimal health. The body cannot always work as it should. Too much toxicity. For too long a period. A weak body defence. And the results can be tragic.

 

Now; if we take a sample of a symptom; say a glob of snot, and grow it in a lab, and say 'there is bloom' as proof that we have a virus, then I would say 'where is the control running alongside?' Could it not be the lab procedure that gave the result? Well, we will never know in most lab experiments. But we do know that there was no isolation and purification to start with. And TBH, even that is not important in 'TRUTH' terms. If these white-coats were really interested in the cause of the sickness they could find out by bathing in 'DDT' or pouring some 'Agent Orange' over their cornflakes.

 

Let's move on. The entity, that has been grown in a lab, then undergoes new procedures. Eventually there is something that gets injected into an arm.

 

Data is then collected on who gets the sickness that took the 'safe' and 'effective' jab. And who got sick that didn't have the jab, In truth. As far as the data is concerned, it doesn't matter if the person was 'vaccinated' or not. It matters not if the subject gets a 'hot' jab or a 'placebo'. The data is irrelevant. The sickness - in this instance - polio, is caused by toxicity. Nothing whatsoever to do with anything in a jab.

 

Lot of hood-winking going on.

This is Cuckoo Land. And the Earth is flat, no one landed on the moon, the planet is ruled by lizards from outer space, and cancer is caused by parasites that can be killed by collodial silver. 

[johng]

13 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

This is Cuckoo Land. And the Earth is flat,

More and more so called conspiracy theories are turning out to be true..

at least  in some respect and often totally,lumping them all to the most controversial theory to try discrediting  all of them is a bit lame. 

[Stiddle Mump]

47 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

This is Cuckoo Land. And the Earth is flat, no one landed on the moon, the planet is ruled by lizards from outer space, and cancer is caused by parasites that can be killed by collodial silver. 

Correct! No one landed on the moon. Although Ali G asked Buzz Lightyear when will man be able to walk on the sun. So perhaps one day.

 

Dr Hulda Clark said 'parasites and pollution' are the root cause of all disease.

 

www.CanYouCatchaCold.com

 

In the book section.

 

 

[jaywalker2]

2 hours ago, johng said:

More and more so called conspiracy theories are turning out to be true..

at least  in some respect and often totally,lumping them all to the most controversial theory to try discrediting  all of them is a bit lame. 

What's lame is thinking pathogens don't exist

[jaywalker2]

5 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

The article is a failed misinformation attempt masquerading as compassion. 

The comments section - with many contributors not buying it - is way more interesting than Offit's hit-piece.

 

 

Yes, because you prefer fruitcakes to scientists

[newbee2022]

RFK Jr just dropped a 10 Megaton Bomb on the CDC

 

It did not harm him. He is still alive.