Tourism Israel-Iran Conflict Puts a Damper on Thailand's Tourist Dreams

[MalcolmB]

24 minutes ago, hotsun said:

Youre from there you tell me. Australia is where the middle east flies to because the US wont let them in

So much BS in one post.

I am not Australian, and I doubt there are “too many” Muslims in Australia.

 

The US lets in the oil rich saudis. The ones that took out the pentagon and World Trade Center.

[ikke1959]

4 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

It's been going on over a century for their own reasons, which this link explains but why are you taking sides? .......https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-44124396

It is a shame that teh Jews when they got Palestine never have recognized that they had to live with Muslim population. They have never accept the land they got and wanted more and more.. They want to take over the whole country..They violate the agreements with building on the West Jordan Banks, They never recognized Gaza, and they will not stop till they have conquered the whole country. They are in fact the agressors and they know because of what happened during the WOII they are being felt pity by the West and they keep on getting their support. The USA and the EU could have stopped this land taking actions long ago, but they still support it, while Israel is openly now committing war crimes.. Not many people all over the world like Jews for ages..you can wonder why, but what they are now doing will surely not contribute to more acceptance

[ronnie50]

What are the stats of Israeli tourists in Thailand? They must be way down the list in numbers compared to visitors from other countries. They do seem to attract a disproportionate amount of bad news/behaviour in Thailand though. Conversely, there are many Arabs from the Middle East - or so it seems - but maybe they visually stand out more (burkas, etc.). Don't read much bad news about them causing trouble in Thailand. BTW - Jews do not have a monopoly on the word 'anti-semitism', though most people aren't aware. Anti-semitism refers to Semitic-speaking people, that means both Hebrew and Arabic - it doesn't equate to anti-Jew or anti-Zionist. I also agree the Jews in Israel are planning to take the whole Palestinian territory either by force (e.g. kill and then bulldoze Gazans) or stealth (e.g. illegal settlements on the West Bank).

[Keeps]

14 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Yeah but they would be a far lesser quality of tourists than the Israelis. Probably more australians, that wouldn't be very good.

Wow. This is like Sophie's choice.

[Keeps]

7 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Alot of trouble? Do you have any data to support your claim or are you just biased. A review of the stories, for the past month featured, English, American, Russian Swedish, French,German and Chinese offenders. 

No mention of retarded Aussies in your summary? Wouldn't happen to be one, would you?

[Keeps]

6 hours ago, hotsun said:

That guy is australian

 

6 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

What's your point...your comment is irrelevant, illogical and irrational 

It's not an irrational point. The poster Malky boy is one of your bogan Aussies who pretends to be a Brit. The context of his messages need to be treated as such.

[Keeps]

5 hours ago, still kicking said:

Ban all the Brits and other troublemakers?

Aussies would be a great starting point. Never met one who wasn't a complete wrong 'un.

[still kicking]

5 minutes ago, Keeps said:

Aussies would be a great starting point. Never met one who wasn't a complete wrong 'un.

Says the Trump supporter

[Keeps]

13 hours ago, still kicking said:

Says the Trump supporter

Why on earth would I be a Trump supporter? I'm not American and what has that got to do with anything anyway?

 

 

[still kicking]

6 minutes ago, Keeps said:

Why on earth would I be a Trump supporter? I'm not American and what has that got to do with anything anyway?

 

Drink your Horlick's and go to bed you senile old goat. 

I don't drink the Pommie stuff

[Purdey]

Now the Americans have joined the war perhaps Thailand will suffer even worse.

[Jiggo]

On 6/21/2025 at 12:41 PM, Ohyesuare said:

 

Even if booked weeks before departure, the airports and airspace is closed, so the flights got cancelled. Israeli tourists have caused just as much trouble as Brits, Aussies, Koreans, Chinese and Indians, probably less actually.

And those German's 

[aussiebrian]

9 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

Like you, there are racists in every country, that doesn't make the country racist, Australia is the most successful multicultural country, in the world, why do you think it is...you barely see any racism, unless you go looking for it, and in many cases it's a perceived racism by those who don't understand what racism is... You racist so and so 

And Penny Wong and Albo and the ABC news will back you up.. 🤣

[aussiebrian]

14 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

Oi...leave us alone, you racist pig.

I am sorry, Australians are not a race. 🤣

[Patong2021]

4 hours ago, Keeps said:

No mention of retarded Aussies in your summary? Wouldn't happen to be one, would you?

 

Where are the "retarded aussies" in the reports? I don't believe that the Australians are the people doing wheelies in Pattaya, kicking doctors, stabbing people, running  scam call centers, selling yaba or thieving from other visitors. Sometimes the Australian visitors over indulge and are given to hijinks. They are mostly harmless and are manageable.  For the most part, they are like Nordic visitors in their treatment of the locals, leaning to kindness and civility. When is the last time you ever saw an Australian screaming or berating a local server in a restaurant, or complaining about the heat or a few insects buzzing about as others do?

 

[Patong2021]

4 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

What are the stats of Israeli tourists in Thailand? They must be way down the list in numbers compared to visitors from other countries. They do seem to attract a disproportionate amount of bad news/behaviour in Thailand though. Conversely, there are many Arabs from the Middle East - or so it seems - but maybe they visually stand out more (burkas, etc.). Don't read much bad news about them causing trouble in Thailand. BTW - Jews do not have a monopoly on the word 'anti-semitism', though most people aren't aware. Anti-semitism refers to Semitic-speaking people, that means both Hebrew and Arabic - it doesn't equate to anti-Jew or anti-Zionist. I also agree the Jews in Israel are planning to take the whole Palestinian territory either by force (e.g. kill and then bulldoze Gazans) or stealth (e.g. illegal settlements on the West Bank).

Perhaps, the Israelis, stand out for some, because some people wish to confirm their prejudice? Is it any different than the Africans being stereotyped as drug pushers and thieves. A couple of my Thai friends refer to opportunistic thieves as "Nigeria", as in watch your bag, because there are Nigeria (sic).  Not fair and inaccurate. Particularly when there are no Nigerians let alone black people where we are and the thieves at our local beach are usually Europeans.

 

[treetops]

10 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Where are the "retarded aussies" in the reports?

 

Here's a recent report of a couple of them.

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1361888-two-australian-men-surrender-to-pattaya-police-after-brawl-with-foreigner-over-unpaid-bill/

 

[Nick Carter icp]

4 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

What are the stats of Israeli tourists in Thailand? They must be way down the list in numbers compared to visitors from other countries. They do seem to attract a disproportionate amount of bad news/behaviour in Thailand though.

 

   Yes, what are the stats ?

If an Israeli does something wrong like not taking her shows off in a restaurant then theres numerous threads about it over the course of a few weeks .

   Whereas if the non Israeli did likewise, then no one would take any notice and it wouldn't be a media news story 

[Patong2021]

29 minutes ago, treetops said:

 

Here's a recent report of a couple of them.

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1361888-two-australian-men-surrender-to-pattaya-police-after-brawl-with-foreigner-over-unpaid-bill/

 

 

A non event, and hardly serious. it does not rate a mention  in most tourist towns.  On any given day, even in Hua Hin, there is some jerk doing similar, and more often than not it is a European (including Russian). They just don't get written up as is the sport in Pattaya.

[treetops]

Just now, Patong2021 said:

A non event, and hardly serious. it does not rate a mention  in most tourist towns.  On any given day, even in Hua Hin, there is some jerk doing similar, and more often than not it is a European (including Russian). They just don't get written up as is the sport in Pattaya.

 

I agree and was just pointing out there are some reports of misbehaviour.

[Aussie999]

22 hours ago, aussiebrian said:

And Penny Wong and Albo and the ABC news will back you up.. 🤣

You're a fool...

[Aussie999]

22 hours ago, aussiebrian said:

I am sorry, Australians are not a race. 🤣

Irrational, and illogical...

[Greenhill]

On 6/22/2025 at 1:34 PM, MalcolmB said:

The USA just went to war with Iran because the Israeli lobby conned them into it.

 

If the UK was controlled by Muslims as you are absurdly claiming then why have we not sent our own bombers in to defend the Muslims? 

 

Trumps son in law is a Jew.
 

 

So, a country of 9 million people (Israel) has got the power to control the most powerful country in the world with a population of 320 million?!!!    What nonsense!!    Your post just confirms your anti-Jewish opinions!

[Greenhill]

On 6/22/2025 at 11:44 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Yes, what are the stats ?

If an Israeli does something wrong like not taking her shows off in a restaurant then theres numerous threads about it over the course of a few weeks .

   Whereas if the non Israeli did likewise, then no one would take any notice and it wouldn't be a media news story 

 

Yes!   Clearly, just another case of - 'No Jews, No News'!!!!    So true!!!!

[Magictoad]

On 6/21/2025 at 1:43 PM, hotchilli said:

Blame everything else except yourselves, the constant fights, drugs, drunkenness, taxi rip-offs, safety, the list is endless.

Clean up your own mess before blaming the decline on others.

Taxi ripp offs are a thing of the past. Nowadays they are brilliant; better than Europe or the UK. As for safety; that's just part of the adventure. Drunkeness ; that's my business!

[dr_lucas]

On 6/22/2025 at 6:48 PM, ronnie50 said:

BTW - Jews do not have a monopoly on the word 'anti-semitism', though most people aren't aware. Anti-semitism refers to Semitic-speaking people, that means both Hebrew and Arabic - it doesn't equate to anti-Jew or anti-Zionist.

Courtesy of chatgpt:

The statement contains a mix of historical linguistic facts and contemporary misunderstandings, and it reflects a common misconception. Here's a breakdown:

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✅ Partly True (Linguistic Origin):

• The term "Semitic" originally refers to a language family, which includes Hebrew, Arabic, Aramaic, Amharic, and others.
• In that sense, both Jews and Arabs are "Semitic peoples" linguistically.

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❌ Misleading or Incorrect (Modern Meaning of "Anti-Semitism"):

• The term "anti-Semitism" was coined in 19th-century Europe by German journalist Wilhelm Marr, and from the beginning, it specifically referred to hostility or prejudice against Jews, not against all Semitic peoples.
• In modern usage, "anti-Semitism" = anti-Jewish prejudice, not general hatred of Semitic-language speakers.
• Major organizations like the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA), Oxford Dictionary, Merriam-Webster, and the UN all define anti-Semitism as specifically anti-Jewish.

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⚠️ Misuse of the Linguistic Argument:

• Some people use the broader linguistic definition of "Semitic" to claim that "Arabs can't be anti-Semitic" or "Criticism of Jews isn't anti-Semitism", but these arguments misrepresent the actual historical and current usage of the term.
• The phrase "Jews don't have a monopoly on anti-Semitism" is often used to deflect or delegitimize concerns about anti-Jewish hate, which can veer into bad-faith or antisemitic rhetoric itself.

---

✅ Summary:

• Semitic = linguistic term for a group of languages (Hebrew, Arabic, etc.)
• Anti-Semitism = modern term for anti-Jewish hatred. It has nothing to do with Arabic speakers in this context.
• So, the post is technically semi-accurate on language, but misleading and wrong on the sociopolitical and historical meaning of "anti-Semitism". 

 

I'm not gonna even waste time responding to the rest of the biased nonsense in the post 

[bristolgeoff]

I saw the video too the israel tourist thought she was better or her money was in Pai.I know it is a hippy cool place to live or go but that was not needed and the thais were upset like the owner.if i was there no problem take my shoes off.

    So if they is issues now I know one country that will be treated worse.I have being to many places temples and others shoes outside no problem,collect on the way out.These tourist have made they bed now  and let them ly in it now

[Evil Penevil]

 

On 6/22/2025 at 7:48 AM, ronnie50 said:

What are the stats of Israeli tourists in Thailand? They must be way down the list in numbers compared to visitors from other countries.

 

Israel sent 281,803 tourists to Thailand in 2024, putting it in 21st place among nationalities visiting the country.  Israel ranked higher than all European countries except the U.K., France and Germany.¹  Israel has a population of 9.5 million, so about 3% of its people visited Thailand last year, a high relative percentage.   Compared to countries with much larger populations and rankings on the Thailand international arrivals list,  three percent would be equivalent to 42 million Chinese, 10 million U.S. citizens or 2.1 million British subjects.

 

Israelis do love taking a vacation in Thailand and are a significant source of tourist income for Thailand.  In 2022, Israeli tourists spent the equivalent of U.S. $167 per capita per day, placing them ahead of tourists from the U.S. and every European country except Norway at $170.  In fact, Israeli tourist spending is close to that of Australia (U.S. $174), Japan ($173) and Taiwan ($168).²

 

 

On 6/22/2025 at 7:48 AM, ronnie50 said:

BTW - Jews do not have a monopoly on the word 'anti-semitism', though most people aren't aware. Anti-semitism refers to Semitic-speaking people, that means both Hebrew and Arabic - it doesn't equate to anti-Jew or anti-Zionist.

 

Unfortunately, Jews do have a rather sad monopoly on the word "antisemitism."  It  has never been used in the English language to mean anything but a hatred of  Jews.  I wrote about that at length in another thread.

 

On 4/13/2025 at 1:23 AM, Evil Penevil said:

 The use of the word "Semite" to refer to an ethnic group is outdated.  The Encyclopedia Britannica explains it this way:

"Semite, obsolete term, popularized in the 19th century, that originally described a member of any people who speak one of the Semitic languages, a family of languages that includes Arabic, Hebrew, Amharic, Aramaic, and Tigrinya, among others. The term was later used in an ethnic sense, even though there has never been a shared Semitic identity among Semitic-speaking peoples. When used in that sense, Semite often referred specifically to people of Jewish origin, regardless of what language they spoke, a reflection of the antisemitism that was concurrent in 19th-century Europe."  https://www.britannica.com/topic/Semite

 

The word "anti-Semitism" or "antisemitism" entered the English language in1881 from the German Antisemitismus, which had been coined by Wilhelm Marr, a German journalist and agitator who thought it sounded more scientific and academic than the older Judenhaß  ("Jew hatred").  Marr himself is regarded as the "father of modern antisemitism,"  although he apparently renounced his anti-Jewish beliefs as an old man.  https://njop.org/the-origin-of-word-anti-semitism/

 

¹https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Thailand

²https://trail.bananabackpacks.com/thailand-tourism-stats/#foreign-spend

 

 

[Evil Penevil]

 

 

On 6/22/2025 at 6:54 AM, ikke1959 said:

It is a shame that teh Jews when they got Palestine never have recognized that they had to live with Muslim population. They have never accept the land they got and wanted more and more.. They want to take over the whole country..They violate the agreements with building on the West Jordan Banks, They never recognized Gaza, and they will not stop till they have conquered the whole country. They are in fact the agressors and they know because of what happened during the WOII they are being felt pity by the West and they keep on getting their support. 

 

The statistics don't support the notion Israelis can't live with Muslims or Arabs of other faiths.  "According to the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics, the Israeli Arab population stood at 2.1 million people in 2023, accounting for 21% of Israel's total population."¹  Compare that with the number of Jews who live in countries with an Arab or Muslim majority (like Indonesia and Malaysia).  Virtually none. ²   

 

The expulsion of Jews from countries in the Middle East is one of the most blatant examples of ethnic cleansing the world has ever seen.  I'll quote from a debate in the U.K. Parliament in 2019:  "In 1945, 856,000 Jewish people lived in the middle east, north Africa and the Gulf region. Only about 4,500 remain, almost all of them in Morocco and Tunisia. Jewish people have lived continuously in the middle east and north Africa for over 2,600 years, yet in just a few decades they almost totally disappeared. Thousands were expelled or fled their home countries in fear."³  Since 2019, the population of Jews in Tunisia and Morocco has fallen by more than 50%.

 

The speaker goes on to state, "Between 1948 and 1972, pogroms and violent attacks were perpetrated in every Arab country against its Jewish residents. The ethnic cleansing of thousands of Jewish people from the Arab world in the mid-20th century was described by journalist Tom Gross as 'systematic, absolute and unprovoked'.” ⁴

 

You need to look into the history of Mandatory Palestine as well as the founding and early history of the state of Israel.  In 1947,  Palestinian and other Arab leaders REJECTED the U.N. partition plan that would have created separate Palestinian and Jewish states while Zionist  leaders accepted it.  Arab Armies from five countries tried to crush Israel militarily in 1948, but failed.  From the moment Israel was proclaimed a sovereign state and homeland of the world's Jews, Arabs tried to destroy it.

 

In 1967, the Arab League, including the Palestinian Liberation Organization,  proclaimed what became known as the Khartoum Three No's at a summit meeting:  ... "no peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with it" ... ⁵  This came in response to an Israeli appeal for peace negotiations.  Arabs were from the beginning the aggressors and rejectionist side.

 

¹https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel

²https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-population-of-the-world#region

³https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2019-06-19/debates/F75D29CB-C4C8-447D-A028-1FA05CD3594D/JewishRefugeesFromTheMiddleEastAndNorthAfrica

⁴https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2019-06-19/debates/F75D29CB-C4C8-447D-A028-1FA05CD3594D/JewishRefugeesFromTheMiddleEastAndNorthAfrica

⁵https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/khartoum.asp

 

On 6/22/2025 at 6:54 AM, ikke1959 said:

 Not many people all over the world like Jews for ages..you can wonder why, but what they are now doing will surely not contribute to more acceptance

 

 

Blaming all Jews for the actions of the Israeli government is by definition antisemitism, but I doubt your realize that yourself.  You imply that people throughout history have had valid reasons for disliking Jews, i.e. antisemitism, and of course that is false.  Antisemitism is based solely on unfounded fears and a lack of knowledge.

[Evil Penevil]

19 hours ago, dr_lucas said:

I'm not gonna even waste time responding to the rest of the biased nonsense in the post 

 

Thank you for a thorough debunking of the false notion that antisemitism can refer to any people but Jews.  I don't know if I have wasted my time, but I did deal with @ikke1959's other points in my two previous posts.  Let's see if he makes any response (I would bet "no.)"