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Conflicting reports including one from inside the White House......and Trump cursing Israel and Iran. LOL

 

A classified preliminary US intelligence report has concluded that American strikes on Iran set back Tehran’s nuclear programme by just a few months - rather than destroying it as claimed by Trump.

 

US media cited people familiar with the Defence Intelligence Agency findings as saying the weekend strikes did not fully eliminate Iran’s centrifuges or stockpile of enriched uranium.

 

The strikes sealed off entrances to some facilities without destroying underground buildings, according to the report.

 

As he was leaving the White House, he berated Israel and Iran, saying they “don’t know what the f*** they’re doing” as the two sides launched missiles as the truce was set to begin.

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/leak-of-intelligence-report-on-iran-bombing-setback-for-trump-as-nato-summit-gets-under-way/C3PT5GMMYNCS5HMPI3OSMTLK7M/

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2 hours ago, xylophone said:

 

Conflicting reports including one from inside the White House......and Trump cursing Israel and Iran. LOL

 

A classified preliminary US intelligence report has concluded that American strikes on Iran set back Tehran’s nuclear programme by just a few months - rather than destroying it as claimed by Trump.

 

US media cited people familiar with the Defence Intelligence Agency findings as saying the weekend strikes did not fully eliminate Iran’s centrifuges or stockpile of enriched uranium.

 

The strikes sealed off entrances to some facilities without destroying underground buildings, according to the report.

 

As he was leaving the White House, he berated Israel and Iran, saying they “don’t know what the f*** they’re doing” as the two sides launched missiles as the truce was set to begin.

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/leak-of-intelligence-report-on-iran-bombing-setback-for-trump-as-nato-summit-gets-under-way/C3PT5GMMYNCS5HMPI3OSMTLK7M/

From the artical:

 

Democratic Rep. Pat Ryan of New York said on X on Tuesday that “Trump just cancelled a classified House briefing on the Iran strikes with zero explanation. The real reason? He claims he destroyed ‘all nuclear facilities and capability;’ his team knows they can’t back up his bluster and BS.”

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4 hours ago, Mavideol said:

did she said it yes or no

 

I don't know. The hearing was over two hours and I wasn't prepared to hear it all.

 

However, if you can show us that she said it as the sitting DNI then go for it. 

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16 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

I don't know. The hearing was over two hours and I wasn't prepared to hear it all.

 

However, if you can show us that she said it as the sitting DNI then go for it. 

I provided the links, be clever don't try to divert

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1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

How gleeful the left seems to be that Iran's nuclear arms program may not have been obliterated. 

 

 

No, gleeful that trump announced obliteration without proper intel.

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6 minutes ago, rabas said:
16 minutes ago. Now being widely reported.
 
Iran’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson said the country’s nuclear installations were ‘badly damaged’ by US airstrikes, the Associated Press reported, though he didn’t provide further detail.
 
AP, ABC news, Times of Israel, Bloomberg, Yahoo ...
 

Could be true, could be a smart move to mislead.

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3 minutes ago, rabas said:

Iran’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson said the country’s nuclear installations were ‘badly damaged’ by US airstrikes, the Associated Press reported, though he didn’t provide further detail.

Of course they will say that so they don't get bombed again any time soon!!

If they said "you missed all is well" they would be bombed to oblivion!

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16 minutes ago, DezLez said:

Of course they will say that so they don't get bombed again any time soon!!

If they said "you missed all is well" they would be bombed to oblivion!

 

I've worked with Iranians for many years at fairly high levels. Their lies will never be so simple. They are masters at the art.

 

Here is more on the Foreign minister's comments. Long, click to read in full. 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, rabas said:
16 minutes ago. Now being widely reported.
 
Iran’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson said the country’s nuclear installations were ‘badly damaged’ by US airstrikes, the Associated Press reported, though he didn’t provide further detail.
 
AP, ABC news, Times of Israel, Bloomberg, Yahoo ...
 

Of course the Iran apologists will claim its a ruse and keep holding up the unfinished and preliminary DIA assessment and ignore everything else, bit like this.

 

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Could be true, could be a smart move to mislead.

 

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2 hours ago, stevenl said:

No, gleeful that trump announced obliteration without proper intel.

 

Because improper intel leaked the opposite?

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20 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Because improper intel leaked the opposite?

No, because success or not is not clear. But trump always has to be seen as the winner, hence unsubstantiated claims.

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3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Your link does not back your claims that it was not a "mission success"

He doesn't care, as a leftist, all he has are lies. 

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30 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

He doesn't care, as a leftist, all he has are lies. 

I think little details like this matter:

 

The DIA assessment also found that much of Iran’s stockpile of highly enriched uranium, which would provide the fuel for making any future nuclear warhead, had been moved before the strikes and may have been moved to other secret nuclear sites maintained by Iran.”

 

“Trump Confirms Surprise US Airstrikes on Iran’s Nuclear Sites, Including Fordo”

 

It seems there wasn’t enough surprise.

 

Maybe someone ran their mouth.

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1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I think little details like this matter:

 

The DIA assessment also found that much of Iran’s stockpile of highly enriched uranium, which would provide the fuel for making any future nuclear warhead, had been moved before the strikes and may have been moved to other secret nuclear sites maintained by Iran.”

 

“Trump Confirms Surprise US Airstrikes on Iran’s Nuclear Sites, Including Fordo”

 

It seems there wasn’t enough surprise.

 

Maybe someone ran their mouth.

Well, they did have 60 days to move them, and the left is still howling that he moved too fast. 

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To be fair to Trump, and in recognition of the need not to try to read between the lines of what he says, he never actually said”

 

“Hey Iran, we’ve got some bunker busting bombs that we are going to drop on your underground nuclear facilities, it might be an idea to relocated stuff you don’t want to lose”.

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Well, they did have 60 days to move them, and the left is still howling that he moved too fast. 

Perhaps those claims of ‘obliteration’ were a little premature.

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3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Perhaps those claims of ‘obliteration’ were a little premature.

Perhaps, I'm sure that's what you are hoping for. 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I think little details like this matter:

 

The DIA assessment also found that much of Iran’s stockpile of highly enriched uranium, which would provide the fuel for making any future nuclear warhead, had been moved before the strikes and may have been moved to other secret nuclear sites maintained by Iran.”

 

“Trump Confirms Surprise US Airstrikes on Iran’s Nuclear Sites, Including Fordo”

 

It seems there wasn’t enough surprise.

 

Maybe someone ran their mouth.

Maybe someone ran their mouth.

 

Yes you

 

58 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Well thanks for your spirited defense of the obviously exaggerated claims of ‘mission success’

Again your link does not support that claim.

 

Also from your link, you know, the little details you refer to.

 

"On Wednesday the defense secretary described the damage to Iran’s nuclear facilities by US and Israeli bombing as “moderate to severe”. He pledged there would be an FBI investigation of Pentagon leaks, but also claimed the leaked information was “false”.

 

That said you also made a case for Iran not to let the IAEA come to inspect and check, interesting.

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