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Gaza Grief: Children Pay Hefty Price in Ongoing Conflict

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1 minute ago, ChristineC said:

That’s a laugh after your antisemitism rants.

Do you mean the Hamas, that only 5% of UN countries call terrorist?

Stop reading the Times if Israel

I don't recall making any anti Semitism remarks or rants , I have no problem with Jews at all   Its terrorist muslims and lefties I dislike     give me an example of an antisemitic comment I made  or apologise and STFU

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9 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Ten minutes ago you claimed it was a lie, now you are claiming it to be a fact .

   

It was a lie, read what you wrote

 

32 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Palestinians were given a state, an independent Nation

 

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

I don't recall making any anti Semitism remarks or rants , I have no problem with Jews at all   Its terrorist muslims and lefties I dislike     give me an example of an antisemitic comment I made  or apologise and STFU

No, you called others antisemitic when they criticized Israel. You misread my post.

1 minute ago, ChristineC said:

It was a lie, read what you wrote

 

   Palestinians were given a state . 

That is a fact ,

 

(BTW, are you Irish ?)

6 minutes ago, ChristineC said:

No, you called others antisemitic when they criticized Israel. You misread my post.

Again show me an example of that then ,    or just apologise for insulting me and STFU

1 hour ago, ChristineC said:

Jews could find refuge because Israel existed.

You argue, “Jews could find refuge.” That’s  right, that’s precisely the point.

Jews from Arab countries were absorbed into Israel (and the West) because they had a state willing to take them in and integrate them.

Palestinians do not have a state. They've been stateless in many places, living under occupation, blockade, or discrimination in host countries. Now Israel are ethnically cleansing Gaza and the West Bank.

So the success of Jewish resettlement doesn’t prove Palestinians were treated equally, it shows the asymmetry of power and protection.

Its well documented why Arab countries don’t accept Palestians, it’s horrid to suggest that is because they are lower than Jews. Do you admit, as a Jew, that most Jews feel superior to Palestinians?

Actually、they DID have a state, called Jordan.  And 22 other Arab states, but the Arabs refused to give refuge to their displaced brothers from the 1948 War of Independence.

 

That's not Israels fault or responsibility. 

Just now, Hanaguma said:

Actually、they DID have a state, called Jordan.  And 22 other Arab states, but the Arabs refused to give refuge to their displaced brothers from the 1948 War of Independence.

 

That's not Israels fault or responsibility. 

On May 14, 1948, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel. U.S. President Harry S. Truman recognized the new nation on the same day!

 

Do you understand what you talking about? Unfair brutally Displaced people by the New Israelis who robbed them for their land and houses was suddenly the neighbouring countries responsibility?

 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

On May 14, 1948, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel. U.S. President Harry S. Truman recognized the new nation on the same day!

 

 

   Why didn't the Palestinian leadership also declare statehood on the same day ?

   The U.S President would have recognised the new Palestine state as well 

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Why didn't the Palestinian leadership also declare statehood on the same day ?

   The U.S President would have recognised the new Palestine state as well 

 

Declare Palestinian state when they where expelled from their homes?

 

I'm not going to discuss with you who are not willing to admit cero nill anything the Israelis have done against the Palestinians post war 2. 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

 

Declare Palestinian state when they where expelled from their homes?

 

I'm not going to discuss with you who are not willing to admit cero nill anything the Israelis have done against the Palestinians post war 2. 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

 

   Declare a Palestine state on the land that they were allocated 

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On 7/18/2025 at 1:52 PM, Magictoad said:

The kids are often the junior terrorists who do a lot of the ground work for their big brothers and fathers. Don't let the stories of the liberal press like the Guardian fool you. If the children are not terrorists now; they will be in the future. They already are inculcated with a burning hate for Israel and all Jews.

Jeez, this must take first prize for THE most uninformed, ignorant post on this topic.

You need help.

43 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Declare a Palestine state on the land that they were allocated 

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So you accept it’s their land?

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

On May 14, 1948, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel. U.S. President Harry S. Truman recognized the new nation on the same day!

 

Do you understand what you talking about? Unfair brutally Displaced people by the New Israelis who robbed them for their land and houses was suddenly the neighbouring countries responsibility?

 

 

 

 

Your narrative is missing a few details.

 

The day after Israel declared independence, and before any Arab residents were affected, armies from FIVE COUNTRIES invaded Israel, intent on finishing what Hitler had started. They did not negotiate, did not care about anything but death to the Jews. THAT was the event that set off the Nakba.

 

And yes, many Palestinians were expelled by the Israelis. No question. Others left voluntarily because they didnt want to live in a Jewish state. Others left because they were told by the Arab League to basically get out of the way of the invading armies. And once the invasion was finished and all the Jews were dead, they could all share in the plunder. 

 

THAT is your Nakba. 

 

So now what. Jewish citizens of Arab countries were also robbed and expelled.  Did they form terrorist groups for 3 generations? No, they were welcomed in Israel.  Why were Arabs robbed and expelled from Israel not welcomed in any of the 22 surrounding Arab countries?  It defies logic. Same as the so-called "right of return".  If the Arabs kicked out of Israel have the right to return to their property, then logically the nearly one million Jews expelled from around Africa and the Middle East ALSO have the "right of return", and can go back to their homes in Algeria, Egypt, Morocco, etc.  

 

It's only fair. 

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So you accept it’s their land?

 

   Yes , thy have a right to a Country and a land for themselves . 

But because they incessantly keep attacking Israel and will do so in the future , then they need to be moved to a location where their rockets cannot hit Israel and where they cannot launch an invasion of Israel 

   Its the only solution for peace in the future

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So you accept it’s their land?

It was until the Arab League launched a war of extermination on Israel and caused the Nakba.  After that. all bets were off.

Average AN member:

It's Hamas' fault that Israel is slaughtering Palestinian children in a genocide.  "Hamas did it!!!  100% Hamas fault."  

4 minutes ago, connda said:

Average AN member:

It's Hamas' fault that Israel is slaughtering Palestinian children in a genocide.  "Hamas did it!!!  100% Hamas fault."  

 

    Why do Palestinian supporters keep going on about children all the time ? You never mention the Hamas members who have been killed, you just go an about children all the time 

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Its a genuine question

No, it's not.

You are talking about Gaza.

There would be peace long time ago already if Israel would not have occupied half of Palestine.

There would be peace long time ago already if Israel would have given a chance to Palestinians to live together with the Jews.

There would be peace long time ago already if Israel would have created the "one state" doctrine. 

There would be peace long time ago already if Israel would have treated the Palestinians on the same level but not as creep.

Now is it like this:

Who sows hatred will reap hatred

And Israel is continuing creating with every new day: HATE

 

5 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

No, it's not.

You are talking about Gaza.

There would be peace long time ago already if Israel would not have occupied half of Palestine.

There would be peace long time ago already if Israel would have given a chance to Palestinians to live together with the Jews.

There would be peace long time ago already if Israel would have created the "one state" doctrine. 

There would be peace long time ago already if Israel would have treated the Palestinians on the same level but not as creep.

Now is it like this:

Who sows hatred will reap hatred

And Israel is continuing creating with every new day: HATE

 

 

   Nope. 

Israel wants peace and has been willing to live side by side with Palestinians and accept Palestines right to exist .

    The conflict has been caused by Palestinians refusing to accept Israel's right to exist and them keep attacking Israel 

7 hours ago, WDSmart said:

I condemn Israel now because, as far as I know, they are the only ones who are continuing these genocidal actions since Oct 7.

You support the Palestinians and Hamas because they are losing the war. 

 

What do you think would happen if it was the other way around in terms of military mite? I mean if Hamas were the ones with the military strength. 

 

Israel would have already been wiped off the map by now. Probably long ago. Do you think Palestine/Hamas would care about women and children while they wiped Israel out? 

 

And which country would be next if Hamas had all that power, given their track record of extreme and sick violence? 

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Nope. 

Israel wants peace and has been willing to live side by side with Palestinians and accept Palestines right to exist .

    The conflict has been caused by Palestinians refusing to accept Israel's right to exist and them keep attacking Israel 

Something is wrong with you. 

The conflict did not start when Palestinians refused to accept Israel's right to exist.

The conflict started when Britain gave land which belongs to the Palestines to the Jews against all laws.

@ChristineC told you the history already.

1 minute ago, newbee2022 said:

Something is wrong with you. 

The conflict did not start when Palestinians refused to accept Israel's right to exist.

The conflict started when Britain gave land which belongs to the Palestines to the Jews against all laws.

@ChristineC told you the history already.

It’s not worth engaging with right wing fundamentalist. They are brainwashed 

2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Something is wrong with you. 

The conflict did not start when Palestinians refused to accept Israel's right to exist.

The conflict started when Britain gave land which belongs to the Palestines to the Jews against all laws.

@ChristineC told you the history already.

 

    I did not make any claims about when the conflict started 

That wasn't what we were discussing

Strawman argument from you 

46 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Your narrative is missing a few details.

 

The day after Israel declared independence, and before any Arab residents were affected, armies from FIVE COUNTRIES invaded Israel, intent on finishing what Hitler had started. They did not negotiate, did not care about anything but death to the Jews. THAT was the event that set off the Nakba.

 

And yes, many Palestinians were expelled by the Israelis. No question. Others left voluntarily because they didnt want to live in a Jewish state. Others left because they were told by the Arab League to basically get out of the way of the invading armies. And once the invasion was finished and all the Jews were dead, they could all share in the plunder. 

 

THAT is your Nakba. 

 

So now what. Jewish citizens of Arab countries were also robbed and expelled.  Did they form terrorist groups for 3 generations? No, they were welcomed in Israel.  Why were Arabs robbed and expelled from Israel not welcomed in any of the 22 surrounding Arab countries?  It defies logic. Same as the so-called "right of return".  If the Arabs kicked out of Israel have the right to return to their property, then logically the nearly one million Jews expelled from around Africa and the Middle East ALSO have the "right of return", and can go back to their homes in Algeria, Egypt, Morocco, etc.  

 

It's only fair. 

“The Arabs invaded first, so Palestinians caused their own Nakba.”

Lu true.

Before any Arab armies entered, over 200,000 Palestinians had already fled or been expelled. The Deir Yassin massacre and Haganah offensives triggered mass panic before May 15, 1948.

 

Saying Arab states were “finishing what Hitler started” is not only false - it’s inflammatory. The 1948 war was a tragic, complex conflict, not a genocide.

The claim that Palestinians “left because Arab leaders told them to” has been debunked by Israeli and international historians. Yes, some fled voluntarily - many were forcibly expelled.

 

The Nakba was not just about war - it was about the destruction of over 400 villages and the permanent denial of return. 700,000 people lost homes and land.

 

Comparing this to Jewish refugees from Arab countries? Different situation:

Jews were absorbed into Israel.

 

Palestinians were barred from return, stuck in camps, and denied compensation.

Justice isn’t zero sum.

7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    I did not make any claims about when the conflict started 

That wasn't what we were discussing

Strawman argument from you 

"The conflict has been caused by Palestinians refusing to accept Israel's right to exist and them keep attacking Israel".....you said.

As you can see (?) I stick to your post.

But if you are in a dead end street you try to evade and change the subject.

Sure, you can try, but it will not work for me.

End of discussion

(remember how I called you some days ago. q.e.d. !!)

14 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Nope. 

Israel wants peace and has been willing to live side by side with Palestinians and accept Palestines right to exist .

    The conflict has been caused by Palestinians refusing to accept Israel's right to exist and them keep attacking Israel 

Israel can do no wrong according to right wing Jews. You’ve won’t condone ethnic cleansing. You won’t condone policies by Smotrich or Ben Gvir. Frankly, there are a few like you here that are openly supporting, ney cheering Genocide. This is the most islamophobic forum I’ve been on, is there no moderation to stop these vile comments and lies by you and your mate yagoda?

3 hours ago, ChristineC said:

I studied this subject at Leeds University. Unlike you, I have no bias.

Indoctrinated by left wing university lecturers, but no bias...

Israel is a bully it and it's military are totally out of control yet nobody or anyone is willing or able to do anything about it because big brother America is standing behind them.

 

They show no respect at all for international borders and use its military built up and supported by America to dominate their poorer neighbours and the middle east Israel has become an utter disgrace an abomination yet dare to criticise Israel and  you're automatically accused of antisemitism.

1 minute ago, newbee2022 said:

"The conflict has been caused by Palestinians refusing to accept Israel's right to exist and them keep attacking Israel".....you said.

As you can see (?) I stick to your post.

But if you are in a dead end street you try to evade and change the subject.

Sure, you can try, but it will not work for me.

End of discussion

(remember how I called you some days ago. q.e.d. !!)

He did the same with me lol. Pathetic.

2 hours ago, ChristineC said:

Do you mean the Hamas, that only 5% of UN countries call terrorist?

Would you call Hamas terrorists? 

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