Just now, Yellowtail said:

And not mention of it being fully assembled. Only the stock would have been removed.

 

If it had been disassembled they would have mentioned it.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

If it had been disassembled they would have mentioned it.

What would be the benefit of mentioning it was disassembled? They always hold back information. 

 

If someone claims they left it there, they can ask them to describe it, 

 

Did they say whether it was a walnut stock? If no, why not?

 

Now there is a huge theory about the alleged shooter not carrying the rife, that goes away if the weapon was found disassembled, 

26 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What would be the benefit of mentioning it was disassembled? They always hold back information. 

 

If someone claims they left it there, they can ask them to describe it, 

 

Did they say whether it was a walnut stock? If no, why not?

 

Now there is a huge theory about the alleged shooter not carrying the rife, that goes away if the weapon was found disassembled, 

 

It was an internal law enforcement circular that was quoted. 

 

Whether it was disassembled or not would be a remarkable fact, a walnut stock would not be.

 

The whole theory of the weapon having been disasembled is a nonstarter, because after the shot he did not have sufficient time to disassemble.

13 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

It was an internal law enforcement circular that was quoted. 

Have they determined who leaked it?

13 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Whether it was disassembled or not would be a remarkable fact, a walnut stock would not be.

If you were asking someone to describe a weapon, the stock is not remarkable? What if it had a folding stock, would that be remarkable? Would whether it was blues or nickel be remarkable?

 

13 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

The whole theory of the weapon having been disasembled is a nonstarter, because after the shot he did not have sufficient time to disassemble.

What was the time between then the shot was fired, and the video of him scrambling off the roof?

That’s enough for gun-safety authority Steve Wolf to offer a few observations.

 

A .30-06-caliber Mauser bolt-action rifle, for example, could have been disassembled within seconds on the rooftop where the sniper appears to have fired at Kirk at Utah Valley University, Wolf said.

 

“There are aftermarket accessories that would allow you to break this gun down,” he told “Banfield” on Thursday.

 

Also, this kind of long gun would not expel the spent cartridge after firing, Wolf said, if the shooter did not want to leave evidence behind.

 

https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/how-the-gun-that-killed-charlie-kirk-could-have-been-broken-down/

 

This gun authority also has some remarkable observations:

 

 

8 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes he did.

Yes you are right. He had it with him. 

Not cooperating? That's not surprising. He's going to be charged with some form of murder and probably many other offenses. He's no dummy. He knows he needs a lawyer to help him work through all this to at least avoid a death sentence. 

4 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

NB From when the shooter jumped from the roof and fled in the released video it seems he was carrying something:

 

(NewsNation) 12 SEP 2025 — Authorities have not released much information about the weapon recovered following Charlie Kirk’s assassination, other than it was a high-powered, bolt-action rifle.

 

That’s enough for gun-safety authority Steve Wolf to offer a few observations.

 

A .30-06-caliber Mauser bolt-action rifle, for example, could have been disassembled within seconds on the rooftop where the sniper appears to have fired at Kirk at Utah Valley University, Wolf said.

 

https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/how-the-gun-that-killed-charlie-kirk-could-have-been-broken-down

 

 

 

4 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

NB From when the shooter jumped from the roof and fled in the released video it seems he was carrying something:

 

(NewsNation) 12 SEP 2025 — Authorities have not released much information about the weapon recovered following Charlie Kirk’s assassination, other than it was a high-powered, bolt-action rifle.

 

That’s enough for gun-safety authority Steve Wolf to offer a few observations.

 

A .30-06-caliber Mauser bolt-action rifle, for example, could have been disassembled within seconds on the rooftop where the sniper appears to have fired at Kirk at Utah Valley University, Wolf said.

 

https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/how-the-gun-that-killed-charlie-kirk-could-have-been-broken-down

 

 

yes that has a little more clarity of the suspect carrying something fairly large.....

Was he a Mossad agent? did the Israeli's kill him?

43 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Not cooperating? That's not surprising. He's going to be charged with some form of murder and probably many other offenses. He's no dummy. He knows he needs a lawyer to help him work through all this to at least avoid a death sentence. 

Agreed,

The evidence against him is substantial: a threatening note targeting Kirk, surveillance footage, family testimony (e.g., his father’s role in his surrender), and Discord messages joking about the shooting. Speaking could provide additional details (e.g., confirming intent or accomplices) that strengthen the prosecution’s case for aggravated murder, which carries the death penalty in Utah (Utah Code § 76-5-202)

Even if he avoids the death penalty, unlikely if found guilty, he would likely spend the rest of his like in a supermax with no parole, he is a young guy 22, that would be worse than death!

6 hours ago, Cameroni said:

They can easily cross-examine him on the veracity of his statement.

No. Fifth Amendment Rights.

10 hours ago, Tug said:

The trump FBI is claiming they have his DNA on the weapon the perp may be trying to go to trial perhaps to state his reasons…..

No. DNA on the blanket the gun was wrapped in, DNA found on a screwdriver on the roof and DNA from where he came down off the roof. Also now saying forensic evidence of a note to his transitioning furry boyfriend about taking Kirk out. There are also wider investigations happening into a possible radical left trans ideolgy cell and if there was one or more accomplices in the crowd. Interesting that there's no longer any he's a "right wing gun hugger" comments on this forum.

1 hour ago, 300sd said:

Yes you are right. He had it with him. 

 

Yes, a lot of people could not see it clearly because the video was grainy, but he had a long object  as he clambered down from the roof. The FBI confirmed this.

5 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

DNA found on a screwdriver

 

What was the screwdriver for? I didn't see any Ikea shelves.

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

What was the screwdriver for? I didn't see any Ikea shelves.

For the scope. 

30 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

No. Fifth Amendment Rights.

A criminal defendant waives their rights against cross-examine if they voluntarily take the witness stand in their own defense.

It’s sad how the Cult members politicise something so awful. To the Fuentes Groyper Army y’all a bunch of bleeding liberals, so it’s all a matter of perspective, not fact.

7 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Robinson also, there is something off about him, when you look at his face, how he acts.

Just now, JAG said:

7 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Robinson also, there is something off about him, when you look at his face, how he acts.

For a real Lawyer you have a fairly casual approach to the burden of proof!

20 minutes ago, JAG said:

For a real Lawyer you have a fairly casual approach to the burden of proof!

 

Just a general observation, he's very dorky, awkward, and seems a bit on the spectrum. A bit vacant and odd.

1 hour ago, retayl said:

It’s sad how the Cult members politicise something so awful. To the Fuentes Groyper Army y’all a bunch of bleeding liberals, so it’s all a matter of perspective, not fact.

Here's a fact. The shooter is a radicalised leftist whose boyfriend is transitioning. Here's another fact. The shooter isn't MAGA. No perspective needed.

12 hours ago, Tug said:

They might force him to listen to trump talk on and on the  endless loop tape droning on and on about windmills whales batteries ect ect more than any mortal could possibly stand I’d say 48 hours tops ….that’s enough to break any mortal man.

Just give him your posts to read. He would be confessing in a minute 

10 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Here's a fact. The shooter is a radicalised leftist whose boyfriend is transitioning. Here's another fact. The shooter isn't MAGA. No perspective needed.

It’s been less than a week,  been no trial yet but you’re quoting facts - what are you? A MAGA Visionary? Fox News is not the only source of information - an inconvenient fact.

2 hours ago, retayl said:

It’s been less than a week,  been no trial yet but you’re quoting facts - what are you? A MAGA Visionary? Fox News is not the only source of information - an inconvenient fact.

 

Stop obfuscating, he's 100% correct.

10 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Indeed, though Robinson, by all accounts, was reluctant to turn himself in and was persuaded by his father to do so.

 

Rather sensible, as he will face the death penalty potentially. I wonder if his father knew that at the time?

If he is a Christian and repents and asks forgiveness he can go to heaven and meet Charlie and shake his hand with Jesus looking beatifically on. Not sure about Morons though are they 'true' Christians ?

Just now, beautifulthailand99 said:

If he is a Christian and repents and asks forgiveness he can go to heaven and meet Charlie and shake his hand with Jesus looking beatifically on. 

 

If he's Christian and the Christians are right, and heaven and hell exist, he'll be boiled alive in a gray room listening to Charlie Kirk speeches on loop while a furry cuts off his manhood slice by slice.

9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Stop obfuscating, he's 100% correct.

Clearly you have inside information, perhaps enlighten us with your sources. An observation - Trump did not attend Charlie Kirk’s memorial service as he was playing golf. As yet I’ve no information as to what his score was.

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

If he's Christian and the Christians are right, and heaven and hell exist, he'll be boiled alive in a gray room listening to Charlie Kirk speeches on loop while a furry cuts off his manhood slice by slice.

Thats not how it works. Christianity has a get out of jail free card. Sorry Charlie was a true Christian so Tyler can still go to heaven after his last supper before he fries. I think you have mistaken this faith for Islam. 

 

Yes — according to the New Testament, even very serious sins, including murder, can be forgiven if a person truly repents and turns to Christ in faith.

A few key points from Scripture:

• God’s grace covers all sin:

  • “The blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.” (1 John 1:7)

  • “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.” (1 John 1:9)

• Examples of forgiven murderers:

  • The Apostle Paul admitted he persecuted and approved of the killing of Christians before he encountered Christ (Acts 7:58, Acts 9:1, 1 Timothy 1:13–15). Yet he was forgiven and became one of Christianity’s greatest missionaries.

  • King David in the Old Testament committed both adultery and murder (2 Samuel 11). When he repented, God forgave him (Psalm 51). His story is used in the New Testament as an example of God’s mercy (Romans 4:6–8).

• Repentance is key: Forgiveness is not about saying “sorry” lightly, but about genuine repentance — turning away from sin, seeking God’s mercy, and submitting to Christ.

• Consequences remain: Forgiveness doesn’t erase earthly consequences. A murderer may still face justice or punishment in this life, but spiritually, they can be reconciled to God and receive eternal life.

So, according to the New Testament, yes — even someone guilty of a heinous crime like cold-blooded murder can repent, receive forgiveness through Jesus Christ, and go to heaven.

 

7 hours ago, retayl said:

It’s been less than a week,  been no trial yet but you’re quoting facts - what are you? A MAGA Visionary? Fox News is not the only source of information - an inconvenient fact.

It's not Fox I'm quoting. It's the FBI and the Governor of Utah.