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Foreigners rally against BBC's ‘Thailand: the dark side’ doc

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19 hours ago, SABloke said:

The documentary is called "Thaliand: The Dark Side of Paradise" so one assumes it focusses on the negative elements of Thailand (which exist, as in all countries). I don't see how anyone watching was expecting a "balanced" view. 🙄

The expression "dark side" brings audience and consequently profits. That's their main goal, not description of reality as it is. 

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  • The documentary is called "Thaliand: The Dark Side of Paradise" so one assumes it focusses on the negative elements of Thailand (which exist, as in all countries). I don't see how anyone watching was

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  • One of the youtube guys who was in it said he was completely misrepresented in the episode about Pattaya. It was a stitch up - always is - never collaborate with any of these type of people. It's

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58 minutes ago, Lucky Bones said:

There is a big difference between Central Pattaya & the rest of the city. East Pattata is most excellent.🙃🙃

Guess you had a bad experience in Central Pattaya. Back to Nana Plaza for you Sir.🙃🙃

Seriously, foreigners are rallying against this garbage doco ?

 

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha

1 minute ago, Lucky Bones said:

Guess you had a bad experience in Central Pattaya. Back to Nana Plaza for you Sir.🙃🙃

 

do you often have a conversation with yourself?

 

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Thailand only has its self to blame. I love it here and have e been coming and staying for many years but they do shoot them selves in the foot.

In 2025 with all the 'me too' and other female issues front and centre now  around the world, Pattaya, Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy are allowed to thrive? I'm not a prude but times are changing. For example, walk down Sukhumvit between Asoke and Nana. 5 star, family friendly hotels with the underbelly of Thai nightlife on the street outside. Not just Sukhumvit either.

Again, I not a prude and it doesn't bother me really but does beg the question where is Thai tourism going in the 21st century?

 

I suppose they chose Zara McDermott because she will connect with today's young travellers who make up a large percentage of tourist arrivals.

1 minute ago, Ralf001 said:

 

do you often have a conversation with yourself?

 

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Only when I look in the mirror. Teknowledgy smarter than me?🙃🙃

As accurate and truthful as their reporting on Tommy Robinson and Trump...

30 minutes ago, Wrwest said:

I don't know but your comment that Brits are 20x more likely to die would raise the question as to what Brits are doing so different than the rest of Expats ...

Stats on many nationalities yearly deaths in Thailand are not easily available.

UK and Australia are the easier ones to find.

Australian deaths in Thailand greater than Brits, but not so many visit Europe so harder to compare. 

 

As Thailand tends to underreport suspicious deaths, and/or tends to register them as accidental, suicide, RTA, etc. it's only possible to compare total deaths, which are generally 20x more than tourists visiting western countries.

2 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

Any body who allows the BBC to influence their lives in any way at all is unlikely to ever come to Thailand

Lowlife of the type to which you are alluding would not be BBC viewers.

5 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Who are these people?

Thailand is dangerous, Brits are 20x more likely to die on holiday in Thailand than any western country.

Due to their own behaviour (Or road accidents). Unlike in the west, random violence rarely happens in Thailand for no reason. If someone is attacked, there is a reason.

Why even respond , it would have just disappeared in a few a weeks or so from everyone’s mind . The BBC are a huge joke to everyone these days and especially to the Brits.  

9 minutes ago, Oz82 said:

Due to their own behaviour (Or road accidents). Unlike in the west, random violence rarely happens in Thailand for no reason. If someone is attacked, there is a reason.

Even unequipped ambulances with untrained staff taking their time to reach hospitals accounts for many extra foreign deaths in Thailand. 

Looks like the  production touched a raw nerve. I expect that some of the class of people profiled in the  production are upset because some inconvenient truths were stated.

And to the people ranting against the BBC,  no need to show us how biased you are. The BBC broadcast the documentary. It did not produce it. South Shore, an independent production company made the documentary. The BBC cannot control the content. It can either broadcast and allow viewers to make up their own mind or it can refuse to broadcast the production. The BBC mandate is to provide a platform for British made productions to be broadcast. If you are upset at the content, contact Andy Mackenzie the CEO at South Shore.

 

Thailand has a serious human trafficking problem. The sex industry depends on it and the people who hire the prostitutes from the beer bars and massage parlors are part of it. The crime and drugs are all part of it too.

19 hours ago, norfolkandchance said:

Ex Love Island contestant and inspiring journalist. 

 

She never claimed to be a journalist. She was the presenter  for South Shore's documentary. How is that different than any other documentary narrator's role? 

 

5 hours ago, JAG said:

It's BBC3, so no-one will watch it. A pretty standard hit job fronted by the channel producers latest blonde hottie whose talent was "noticed" on a dance programme.

 

Unfair comment. Zara McDermott has been making documentaries since 2020, with the first broadcast in Feb. 2021.She has handled difficult subjects in her previous documentaries.   She went into a government apprenticeship program after graduating from secondary school. Within the government she was trained as a civil servant, first in the environment ministry and then in the education ministry. Her strength is is in presentation and communicating with people, and that's what she was doing as the presenter in the  documentary. What do you think the narrator of a documentary  is supposed to do?  When Peter Coyote  narrates the historical documentaries for Ken Burns, he is doing do it as a noted voice actor and not as an historian.

 

8 hours ago, GanDoonToonPet said:

The producers of the program misrepresented the purpose of the documentary to a Thai Youtuber. 

 

Not really. That fellow really did not rebut any of the facts that were presented. He did rant about the BBC.  It was South Shore that produced the show. This is a former hotel clerk who lives upcountry and survives as a small wannabe farmer. It is difficult to take someone called "Naked Guru" seriously.

 

1 hour ago, Cabradelmar said:

There is a dark side to most people and places. If you look hard enough. And Pattaya is no different. That doesn't mean that a place like Pattaya has no redeeming qualities. Even if Pattaya is not your cup of tea, some still call it home. Personal opinions aside, if the BBC documentary got the dark bits right, but was not balanaced, save the selective outrage. Pattaya is what it is.

 

The production was focusing on the dark side of tourism. There are no positives to sexploitation and crime.

 

37 minutes ago, MadAtMatrix said:

The documentary hostess is hardly above reproach with her selfie mirror photos of her lower lady bits on full display. 
but she’s better than all the girls “selling their bodies”……

 

The nude photos that you refer to were taken when she was 14 years of age and were illegally leaked.

How much longer does she have to be  humiliated for a mistake made in her youth that did not hurt anyone else?

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Even unequipped ambulances with untrained staff taking their time to reach hospitals accounts for many extra foreign deaths in Thailand. 

Which would relate strongly to the road deaths.

8 minutes ago, Oz82 said:

Which would relate strongly to the road deaths.

What about strokes and heart attacks?

Would point out Aussies even more likely to die than Brits.

If you're claiming Brits brought it on themselves, you must be a nation of bogans .......

8 hours ago, GanDoonToonPet said:

The producers of the program misrepresented the purpose of the documentary to a Thai Youtuber. 

 

 

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There's the rub.

 

It wasn't "made" by the BBC but an Independent Production company. Just in it for the views and money.

 

 

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

What about strokes and heart attacks?

Would point out Aussies even more likely to die than Brits.

If you're claiming Brits brought it on themselves, you must be a nation of bogans .......

If they are having strokes and heart attacks then that also relates back to their lifestyles. And also the fact that a lot of older men visit Thailand, which would skew the odds dramatically.

11 minutes ago, Oz82 said:

If they are having strokes and heart attacks then that also relates back to their lifestyles. And also the fact that a lot of older men visit Thailand, which would skew the odds dramatically.

I'm not all that keen to interact with a banned Aussie troll returning under a new name.

Try baiting someone else!

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

I'm not all that keen to interact with a banned Aussie troll returning under a new name.

Try baiting someone else!

Banned? I've been using this username for years. But yeah sounds like I hit a nerve for sure.

As someone who spent 20 years in Thailand, firstly as an tourist, and then as an expat, my take on this is as follows. The vast majority of tourists who visit Thailand only ever see touristy Thailand.  Touristy Thailand by it's nature is where many prostitutes, ladyboys etc congregate, giving what I think is a false impression of what Thailand is really like, for ordinary Thais with ordinary jobs. Many people who only spend a few weeks there have a false impression of what the country's really like.

7 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I'm not all that keen to interact with a banned Aussie troll returning under a new name.

Try baiting someone else!

You are literally on a thread defending Thailand against a slanderous documentary, to defend the slander. That makes you the troll by its very definition.

3 hours ago, Card said:

Exactly. Its about balanced reporting. Durgghhh!

"Balanced" I don't want balanced, I want factual, if there is another side of the coin anyone is free to show it. For instance, prostitution is illegal in Thailand, or no one gets drunk between 14:00 and 17:00.

11 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

As someone who spent 20 years in Thailand, firstly as an tourist, and then as an expat, my take on this is as follows. The vast majority of tourists who visit Thailand only ever see touristy Thailand.  Touristy Thailand by it's nature is where many prostitutes, ladybiys etc congregate, giving what I think is a false impression of what Thailand is really like, for ordinary Thais with ordinary jobs. Many people who only spend a few weeks there have a false impression of what the country's really like.

There are hookers and drug dealers in every road, in every town, in every province of Thailand.

Even my Bil up in rural Nan knows a girl down the road who will do it for 150bht.

11 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

There are hookers and drug dealers in every road, in every town, in every province of Thailand.

Even my Bil up in rural Nan knows a girl down the road who will do it for 150bht.

So, every town in Thailand is like Walking Street or Soi Cowboy then?

4 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

Personally I think there are far too many Thai protectionists, who, for some reason, believe Thailand is perfect...fact, it isn't, it does have a dark side, Pattaya business organisations actually admit this... Guys, just accept it...geez

Pattaya is one big Dark Side full of old geezer mongers with their little tatted up bar girls. 

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6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Brits are 20x more likely to die on holiday in Thailand than any western country.

Are they hiring motorcycles there and drive around drunk and without a helmet?

5 hours ago, Peter Crow said:

The only thing that's said here is that the Thailand's main attraction as a tourist destination are sex and drugs. The resulting body count is high, as we are also in a country that is reckless and violent.

 

Anything inaccurate?

You forgot to mention two tier pricing and the endemic corruption! 

Other than that spot on mate!

20 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

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"Thailand: The Dark Side of Paradise," a documentary released by the BBC, has stirred significant controversy and backlash. The documentary set out to critique Thailand's tourism industry, but it has been met with strong defensive reactions from both Thai nationals and foreigners who hold the country in high regard. The discontent centers around the documentary's portrayal, which many argue is distorted and lacking in balance.

 

The criticism began with the choice of Zara McDermott, a former contestant on "Strictly Come Dancing," as the documentary's presenter. Without a background in journalism, McDermott’s selection raised questions about the BBC's decision-making, especially given the sensitivity of the topic. This decision has led to a broader scrutiny of the BBC's perceived biases, particularly towards Asian countries, with some alleging that its coverage often carries racial, regional, and political prejudices.

 

The documentary trailer’s release provoked a storm of responses, particularly from foreigners living or having lived in Thailand. These individuals have come forward to share their experiences, which starkly contrast with the documentary's narrative. Many have expressed that Thailand is a safe, welcoming place, and the documentary’s focus on negative aspects does not reflect the country they know.

 

This response has not just been about defending Thailand but also about challenging what they see as an unjust portrayal. Critics of the documentary have drawn parallels with historical narratives, particularly colonialism, where media representations often carried racial undertones. This analogy is rooted in the ways colonial powers, like Britain, used race and media to justify their actions and superiority. These historical contexts continue to influence perceptions, leading to skepticism about the intentions and accuracies in media portrayals of non-Western countries.

 

The media portrayal has opened up old wounds related to British colonialism, where racism was systematically employed to exert control. The empire’s policies often used pseudoscience to justify racial hierarchies, seeing non-white individuals as inferior. This historical backdrop provides a lens through which many critics view the documentary, interpreting it as an extension of these outdated narratives.

 

Within the context of personal experiences, numerous expats have shared positive and reassuring stories about living in Thailand. Their narratives emphasize feelings of safety and respect, areas they argue are not adequately represented in the BBC’s portrayal. Comments from foreigners suggest a preference for walking the streets of Bangkok over those in many UK cities, where they feel more vulnerable to crime and violence.

 

For these individuals, Thailand represents more than just a travel destination; it’s a place where they have built lives and communities. Many have expressed pride in the culture and hospitality that Thailand offers, feeling misrepresented by the litany of negative press.

 

Moreover, these reactions highlight a deeper issue within media practices today. As digital platforms increase competition, there is an ongoing struggle between maintaining journalistic integrity and drawing audiences with sensational content. This tension raises important questions about the role of media in shaping perceptions and the ethical responsibilities in reporting.

 

The controversy surrounding "Thailand: The Dark Side of Paradise" shines a light on these critical discussions, reminding us of the importance of critical evaluation of the sources of information we consume. It serves as a call to action for media outlets to present more nuanced and fair narratives that accurately reflect the diversity and complexities of countries and cultures.

 

Ultimately, this situation underscores the depth of affection and loyalty that many foreigners feel towards Thailand. Their defense of the nation goes beyond mere sentiment; it represents a commitment to ensure that voices of truth and fairness are amplified. As the debate continues, it’s clear that respect and understanding across cultures remain essential, particularly in an increasingly interconnected world.

 

The backlash to the BBC documentary also highlights the broader implications of media representation in shaping public perceptions. As stories circulate globally, they can influence opinions and shape how countries and cultures are understood across different contexts. Inaccurate or biased portrayals can perpetuate stereotypes and lead to misunderstandings that are difficult to correct.

 

Given the rapid dissemination of information in today’s digital age, the stakes are higher than ever for media outlets to prioritize responsible and accurate reporting. More than just providing entertainment or information, media narratives have the power to influence perceptions and shape societal attitudes. Therefore, the responsibility to ensure integrity and accuracy in reporting is not only a professional obligation but a societal one.

 

Looking forward, it’s essential that media organizations strive to balance engaging storytelling with factual accuracy, especially on topics that impact entire nations and cultural identities. Achieving this balance requires a commitment to diverse perspectives, rigorous fact-checking, and an awareness of the broader historical and socio-political contexts in which stories unfold.

 

In the case of "Thailand: The Dark Side of Paradise," the global reaction serves as a powerful reminder of the need for empathy and understanding in storytelling. It highlights the importance of incorporating diverse voices and experiences to provide a fuller picture of a nation’s reality. This holistic approach not only enriches the narrative but also contributes to a more informed and equitable discourse.

 

As discussions continue and more voices join the conversation, the hope is for increased collaboration and dialogue between media creators, audiences, and the subjects of their narratives. By fostering these connections, media can play a crucial role in promoting cross-cultural understanding and respect.

 

In conclusion, the response to the BBC documentary reflects a broader desire for truth and fairness in media portrayals. The collective voices rising to defend Thailand emphasize a commitment to these values, highlighting the critical role of media in shaping our understanding of the world. As audiences, creators, and consumers, the opportunity lies in working together to advocate for narratives that reflect the true diversity and richness of human experiences.

 

Key Takeaways

  • Foreigners with experience in Thailand refute BBC's portrayal.
  • Concerns are raised about bias in media, especially related to colonial history.
  • The situation emphasizes the need for balanced and accurate reporting.

 

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BBC is a rotten lying institution that should be boycotted by all. Sadly it has been taken over by the wrong people.

14 minutes ago, Dont confuse me said:

You forgot to mention two tier pricing and the endemic corruption! 

Other than that spot on mate!

"Purported corruption"...

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