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Charlie Kirk Memorial Draws Massive Turnout in Arizona

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3 minutes ago, angryguy said:

You guys are missing the point. His death is a loss for you guys not us. Midterms will be glorious. Nothing left to discuss, trump will have americas full support

That's delusional. 

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1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

Do any here support his racist views?

 

I'm not from the Former Colonies, but it appears to me the guy was a POS.

 

Statement Context Criticism
“If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.” Said during a podcast in 2024 discussing airline diversity hiring Accused of promoting harmful racial stereotypes about Black competence
“Prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people.” Repeated on his show in 2023 Widely condemned as racially inflammatory and factually unsupported3
“If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman… is she there because of excellence or affirmative action?” Made in 2023 Seen as both racist and sexist, reinforcing negative stereotypes
Called George Floyd a “scumbag” Public speech in 2021 during his “Critical Racism Tour” Criticized for dehumanizing a victim of police violence3
Called Martin Luther King Jr. “awful” and said the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a “huge mistake” Remarks made in 2023 Viewed as a rejection of civil rights progress3
Promoted the “Great Replacement” theory Multiple appearances and broadcasts Accused of amplifying white nationalist conspiracy theories
 
 

 

 

Six decontextualized quotes and paraphrases.  Which somehow add up to he was a "POS".  Amazing logic there.

 

How about, perhaps, looking behind the gotchas and sound bites? Dare to have an open mind and spend more than 30 frantic seconds furiously combing over the worst of the internet looking for whatever might support your preconceived notions? 

 

Nah. That would be too hard...

4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Six decontextualized quotes and paraphrases.  Which somehow add up to he was a "POS".  Amazing logic there.

 

How about, perhaps, looking behind the gotchas and sound bites? Dare to have an open mind and spend more than 30 frantic seconds furiously combing over the worst of the internet looking for whatever might support your preconceived notions? 

 

Nah. That would be too hard...

 

Actually, I asked AI to analyse his speeches and determine whether he was a racist or islamophobe and present examples.

 

Do better Hanaguma

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10 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

Actually, I asked AI to analyse his speeches and determine whether he was a racist or islamophobe and present examples.

 

Do better Hanaguma

How about doing it yourself and not being lazy?  

 

But nah. That would be too hard...

3 hours ago, Fact said:

 

The term "fascism" is increasingly used, but it does not correlate with true fascism.

Most of those describing their oppo ents as fascists have never lived under fascism and don't know what they are talking about.

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17 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Most of those describing their oppo ents as fascists have never lived under fascism and don't know what they are talking about.

This is very true. The irony is, IF the government is fascist, then you would be jailed/hurt/disappeared for daring to describe it as "fascist".  If your leader is "literally Hitler", then he would kill you for calling him "Hitler".  It is a paradox that the left cannot solve.

 

So, rather than think, they just casually throw around incendiary language and feign surprise when it causes trouble. 

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

How about doing it yourself and not being lazy?  

 

But nah. That would be too hard...

 

I wanted an analysis without any bias, and it shoots your argument down in flames.

 

Do better Hanaguma

A  💯0% psyop on the dummeez.

 

Captain Kirk only got whisked off stage . . .  like Elvis.

 

Stop hittin that snooze button

5 hours ago, Fact said:

 

The term "fascism" is increasingly used, but it does not correlate with true fascism.

And the left term who is used against everyone who do not agree with a friend of Epstein, who make a saint out of one who helped his election and winning the vote with 1,6% or so? 

 

My bet, those 4% who changed their minds, regretting now

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Just now, Hummin said:

And the left term who is used against everyone who do not agree with a friend of Epstein, who make a saint out of one who helped his election and winning the woke with 1,6% or so? 

 

My bet, those 4% who changed their minds, regretting now

Yep.

Opposing Trump doesn't mean a person is a leftist.

It means they are a decent American. 

Im sorry for the man is dead, but this organized circus making the man a saint, and also given a formal state furneral, unlike anyone else, and used for political reasons, and claiming war on the left, Im surprised there is no bells going off at those who support Trump?

 

Dont anyone of you see whats happening here? The god given distraction for this government ? 

 

Oh My

6 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Im sorry for the man is dead, but this organized circus making the man a saint, and also given a formal state furneral, unlike anyone else, and used for political reasons, and claiming war on the left, Im surprised there is no bells going off at those who support Trump?

 

Dont anyone of you see whats happening here? The god given distraction for this government ? 

 

Oh My

Au contraire, the hard core maga fascist base LOVES this.

Yes, very disturbing indeed.

 

 

You may want to listen to noted leftist commentator Van Jones over on CNN.  

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/19/politics/van-jones-charlie-kirk-message

 

Here is what Charlie wrote to Van;

 

“Hey, Van, I mean it, I’d love to have you on my show to have a respectful conversation about crime and race. I would be a gentleman as I know you would be as well. We can disagree about the issues agreeably.”

 

And Van Jones would have taken him up on it, had Charlie not been brutally murdered by a coward.

 

10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Au contraire, the hard core maga fascist base LOVES this.

Yes, very disturbing indeed.

 

 

It is tragic comic and the right wings do not even hear, see or want to admit this is so wrong. 

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

It is tragic comic and the right wings do not even hear, see or want to admit this is so wrong. 

I would say people in the maga cult rather than right wingers.

Right wing can just mean traditional not maga conservatives and many of them have proven to be among the most passionate critics of Trump. 

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3 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

Do any here support his racist views?

 

I'm not from the Former Colonies, but it appears to me the guy was a POS.

 

Statement Context Criticism
“If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.” Said during a podcast in 2024 discussing airline diversity hiring Accused of promoting harmful racial stereotypes about Black competence
“Prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people.” Repeated on his show in 2023 Widely condemned as racially inflammatory and factually unsupported3
“If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman… is she there because of excellence or affirmative action?” Made in 2023 Seen as both racist and sexist, reinforcing negative stereotypes
Called George Floyd a “scumbag” Public speech in 2021 during his “Critical Racism Tour” Criticized for dehumanizing a victim of police violence3
Called Martin Luther King Jr. “awful” and said the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a “huge mistake” Remarks made in 2023 Viewed as a rejection of civil rights progress3
Promoted the “Great Replacement” theory Multiple appearances and broadcasts Accused of amplifying white nationalist conspiracy theories
 
 

 

 

I’m quoting this simply because it needs to be repeated again and again until the idiots learn to read for comprehension. 

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1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said:

I wanted an analysis without any bias

then you should not be using AI which has been shown to have a lefty bias built in to it many times

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4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

You may want to listen to noted leftist commentator Van Jones over on CNN.  

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/19/politics/van-jones-charlie-kirk-message

 

If Charlie Kirk was to look down from heaven, he will be appalled at excesses that Trump is using his death to further his agenda. Erika Kirk forgiving Tyler Robinson was said with much intention. 

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1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

If Charlie Kirk was to look down from heaven, he will be appalled at excesses that Trump is using his death to further his agenda. Erika Kirk forgiving Tyler Robinson was said with much intention. 

Very possibly true.

 

Trump is a politician. He does what he does. But Erika is showing true steel.  I can only imagine how big Turning Point will become.  She is attractive, media savvy, and passionate.  

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1 minute ago, Hanaguma said:

Very possibly true.

 

Trump is a politician. He does what he does. But Erika is showing true steel.  I can only imagine how big Turning Point will become.  She is attractive, media savvy, and passionate.  

Charlie was a political activist widely seen as someone who would seek political office. The same can be said of his wife.

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Charlie was a political activist widely seen as someone who would seek political office. The same can be said of his wife.

She has kept largely out of the limelight until now. Also they had taken steps to keep their children away from social media and other horrors.  She is very well educated, and has a business career that is not attached to TPUSA.

 

But the moral suasion of the wife of a murdered husband, and mother of a murdered man's children, will give her a serious platform to speak from.

Just now, Hanaguma said:

She has kept largely out of the limelight until now. Also they had taken steps to keep their children away from social media and other horrors.  She is very well educated, and has a business career that is not attached to TPUSA.

 

But the moral suasion of the wife of a murdered husband, and mother of a murdered man's children, will give her a serious platform to speak from.

Agreed.

Unfortunately as I consider the ideology of that group odious. 

51 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Im sorry for the man is dead, but this organized circus making the man a saint, and also given a formal state furneral, unlike anyone else,

retracted

12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Agreed.

Unfortunately as I consider the ideology of that group odious. 

From the TPUSA website:

 

Turning Point USA guides citizens through development of knowledge, skills, values, and motivation, so they can meaningfully engage in their communities to restore traditional American values like patriotism, respect for life, liberty, family, and fiscal responsibility.

 

Yeah, sounds pretty odious to me...

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It’s a short term window of fundraising and then oblivion for the memory of old Charlie.
 

Ask the crazy dead woman who shot at the cops at the capital. She got her pay off and now she’s yesterday’s news.

 

I’m glad to see his widow milking it as hard as she can to top up her $15 million retirement fund that he already left for her.

36 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Charlie was a political activist widely seen as someone who would seek political office. The same can be said of his wife.

He didn’t have much education ? How can you seek political office without formal education. I know it is possible to be anything, but still who would take you seriously? 

 

Well he made it, and his name will be remembered for a long time, at least in the history books


He applied to the United States Military Academy in West Point, New York, but was rejected in 2012. He attended Harper College near Chicago, but dropped out after one semester. In 2015, Kirk took online classes at New York's King's College

 

11 minutes ago, Hummin said:

He didn’t have much education ? How can you seek political office without formal education. I know it is possible to be anything, but still who would take you seriously? 

 

Well he made it, and his name will be remembered for a long time, at least in the history books


He applied to the United States Military Academy in West Point, New York, but was rejected in 2012. He attended Harper College near Chicago, but dropped out after one semester. In 2015, Kirk took online classes at New York's King's College

 

That's ridiculous. 

There is no educational requirement for elected office.

28 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

From the TPUSA website:

 

Turning Point USA guides citizens through development of knowledge, skills, values, and motivation, so they can meaningfully engage in their communities to restore traditional American values like patriotism, respect for life, liberty, family, and fiscal responsibility.

 

Yeah, sounds pretty odious to me...

Whitewashed.

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7 hours ago, TedG said:

I'll never be united with people like you. 

I doubt anyone anywhere is asking.

 

You can be an Army of One....in the Bone Spurs Brigade.

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3 hours ago, angryguy said:

trump will have americas full support

No he will just  have his standard brain dead MAGA support as usual!

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