22 hours ago, The Cyclist said:

Perhaps instead of howls of Nazi's, Fascists, Right Wing, Racists and every other " Isms " and " Ists "

 

People might take a moment to reflect on why the 2 major UK Parties, are getting skelped.

 

https://news.sky.com/video/huge-new-poll-predicts-nigel-farage-as-next-pm-as-labour-and-conservatives-predicted-to-incur-heavy-losses-13438148

"Use the Source, Luke!"

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/53059-yougov-mrp-shows-a-reform-uk-government-a-near-certainty-if-an-election-were-held-tomorrow

 

13000 people (that's an average of 0.028 % of the electorate or 20 people per constituency), were asked. For me, "mega" implies "million". Deca Kilo Poll is more accurate.

 

https://yougov.co.uk/about/panel-methodology#how-does-yougov-ask-about-voting-intention

 

https://yougov.co.uk/about/panel-methodology#how-accurate-are-your-results

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How accurate are your results?

YouGov has a strong history of accurately predicting actual outcomes across a wide range of different subjects, including national and regional elections, political party leadership contests and even the results of ITV talent show Pop Idol - one of our earliest big successes!

I admit I'm surprised that a poll of only 13000 people would lead to the post-election "Heat Map" they published. It would be interesting to check all such polls between a pair of GEs and track their individual accuracy. My bet is over time people's responses would tend toward a less extreme result.

41 Council Elections between now and the 20th Oct.

 

Another drubbing for Labour in these Council Elections will see Starmer gone by Christmas

 

The internal implosion within Labour, will probably see a GE happening well before 2029

 

For anyone who wants to follow these Council elections, you can get a snapshot and update for 2025 here

 

https://electionmaps.uk/byelections-since-le2025

2 hours ago, bannork said:

Labour has a large majority and being well behind in the polls, Labour MPs are unlikely to vote against the party if that forced an election, as that would mean they would lose their seats.

They may change their leader if next May's local elections go badly, but I very much doubt they will call an election. 

The problem that Labour has is not so much the leader, but many of his cabinet as well. AFAICS most Labour politicians are looking and listening to the people that elected them, which is as it should be, and something that many of the Tory MPS didn't do before them.

 

In addition the age group of all the electorate in the UK is changing as the parents die off and the younger generation are taking over. Many of them don't blindly follow any particular party just because their parents did.

 

I think that they want is a lower cost of living or, if they still have a job, they will be looking for a higher salary and/or better retirement benefits.

23 hours ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

People in the UK are fed up with all the public money being squandered for issues abroad, when the local population is suffering. 

 

Wow.  That sounds familiar from across the pond. 'Splains Trump pretty well...  Now if Germany and France wake up...

 

 

22 hours ago, The Cyclist said:

 

😀😀😀😀

 

I'm fairly certain the same was said

 

* Trump x 2

 

* The UK 2016 Referendum.

 

True, but there's 4 years before the next UK General Election.  I doubt there were any polls for Trump 1 four years before, nor four years before the 2016 referendum.   If Reform maintain this lead 6-4 months before the election, I'll be worried.  But a lot can and will happen before then.

On 9/26/2025 at 1:47 PM, brewsterbudgen said:

The chances of this poll being replicated in a real General Election are 'nil'.  

 

I'm old enough to remember the Liberal/SDP Alliance being 50% in the polls in 1981 and being told by David Steel "Go back to your constituencies, and prepare for government!"!  

I would advise you to have a bet on reform winning 

 

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/most-seats

 

 

A migration catastrophe with deeply ominous portents for 'open doors' Britain is unfolding 21 miles away across the Channel.

Multitudes of destitute and desperate men originating from across the world are in the French city of Calais, which increasingly resembles a giant refugee encampment. 

In the many years I have reported on the migration crisis sweeping Europe, I have never seen the ferry port so overwhelmed.

 

More fuel for reform winning

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

True, but there's 4 years before the next UK General Election. 

 

Ya think ?
 

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

But a lot can and will happen before then.

 

Without a doubt.

 

And none of it will be any good with Labour at the helm.

 

40 odd Council elections between now and 20 Oct. Labour spanked again

 

Budget in November with between £ 30 - 50 Billion in tax rises. Labour spanked again

 

Quite possibly a Labour implosion by December.

So the same guy who conviced people that BREXIT would solve the immigrant problem?

 

 

If and when an election is held, much of  Farage's support will collapse. People are supporting him now because it is a protest against the poor performance of Labour and Conservative parties.  LibDems are a dark horse and people may actually park their votes with them once they consider the limitations of Reform and its collection of incompetent candidates.

11 hours ago, FinChin67 said:

Go leftist and start shooting illegals like your hero just did? Or murdered Charlie Kirk. Political violence, murders and riots are so left wing. How many cities very burned down after Charlie was murdered vs. BLC riots?

 

Anyways when it comes to UK the cities look so good with their raping grooming gangs and engineers running amok with machetes. So good that Chinese government  issues travel warnings for "some reason" to London and other cities.

 

Please do continue as I stated before that I want to see how this ends up. First muslim nation in Europe with Nukes. Some do fight back but I believe it's too late, just like in Sweden, France and Germany. You can call me a nazi, racist or even Hitler but I don't care.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wait till you see the Bendirom British guys in Pattaya. These sex pats in bars at 1pm, paying for women. QUALITYYYY

 

 

15 hours ago, James105 said:

 

It's objectively true that anyone who voted for Labour voted to be poorer and are getting poorer.  The upcoming budget will make people poorer still as Labour are a bunch of wastrels that have no idea how to control spending so will need to raise taxes again.  Farage is an unknown to some extent as he has never been in government, but to vote for the same 2 parties that got the UK into the mess it is in now would be an act of self harm and seeing your comments leave me in no doubt the thickest people in the UK will do so again.  

 

Farage is offering to reduce taxes, abandon the net zero scam, prevent foreigners from leaching off the welfare state and tackle illegal immigration.   Policies that (if enacted) will grow the economy (as reducing taxes always does), cut wasteful spending and not implement authoritarian measures such as mandatory digital ID which will waste countless more billions and do nothing.  

 

Seems to me that the choice is vote for one of the legacy parties who have a proven track record of waste, incompetence, corruption and making things worse or someone new.  No amount of doom mongering will change that when your heroes are doing such a terrible job.   I hope for your sake mandatory digital ID doesn't make it over the line as I imagine you would not want someone like Farage having such control over your life if he is as bad as you make him out to be.  

 

"I showed some guys charts after Brexit".  Whilst I don't want to comment on the sad state of this obsession in your life that has led you to showing people charts in bars, I suspect you neglected to also show them the USD-THB chart that followed pretty much the same trajectory as the £ over the same time period.  

 

 

I saw all this pontification during Brexit. "Don't listen to the experts" - the ABC of economics. 

 

The UK's debt is nearly 100% of GDP. We are in hook line and sinker to the markets who lend us money to pay that debt. When these markets are tellign you that if you harm confidence in the work force (THESE ARE LEGAL WORKERS HE IS THREATENING) then you will likely see less confidence in British debt. 

 

THIS WILL COLLAPSE THE POUND EVEN MORE. 

 

RACISTS DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO EXPERTS. How on earth can anyone give Farage more chances after the pathetic Brexit achieved nothing ?

 

Labour desperately need to invest in education in these council estate hubs, mainly up north. 

 

7 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

Labour desperately need to invest in education in these council estate hubs, mainly up north. 

 

Labour need a miricle

 

Latest Poll by More in Common

 

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Reform UK is on course to win a majority at the next general election, according to a poll that predicts Labour is heading for its worst electoral defeat since 1931 and will win fewer than 100 seats.

 

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A survey of almost 20,000 people, the biggest seat-by-seat poll carried out in this parliament, says Nigel Farage would become prime minister with 373 MPs if an election were held tomorrow. This would hand Reform a majority of 96, slightly larger than the Conservatives’ 2019 majority of 80 under Boris Johnson.

 

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/mrp-polling-reform-majority-labour-next-general-election-bzt5mpmn6

 

The graphs are worth looking at 😀😀

 

And what does Kier 2TierNeverhereFreegearLordAllibuys my wife's knicker Starmer have to say ?
 

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Keir Starmer: ‘I think Labour can pull this round’

 

You were getting confused between pulling your plonker and a reach around

8 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

 

 

I saw all this pontification during Brexit. "Don't listen to the experts" - the ABC of economics. 

 

The UK's debt is nearly 100% of GDP. We are in hook line and sinker to the markets who lend us money to pay that debt. When these markets are tellign you that if you harm confidence in the work force (THESE ARE LEGAL WORKERS HE IS THREATENING) then you will likely see less confidence in British debt. 

 

THIS WILL COLLAPSE THE POUND EVEN MORE. 

 

RACISTS DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO EXPERTS. How on earth can anyone give Farage more chances after the pathetic Brexit achieved nothing ?

 

Labour desperately need to invest in education in these council estate hubs, mainly up north. 

 

 

You can scream into the void with your caps lock "racist" slurs all you want.  I think it makes you sound like a child having a little temper tantrum but you do you.  Labour are categorically failing on every single metric.  Why are you supporting failure?  I have zero doubt you are one of those that insisted on the government de jour borrowing more and more money as the Bank of England can just print money etc but now seem to have learnt there are consequences to all this borrowing.  The key to getting out of this mess is spending less and growing the economy.  Labour are demonstrating right now, in real time, that they are incapable of doing either of those things.  The Tories demonstrated the same before Labour.   Yet here you are demanding more of the same failed economic policies and calling people racist who do not want more of the same repeated failures.  Those you label as racist (which I presume in your little head means literally anyone who disagrees with you) demand something different.   The only different option on the table is Reform just now.  

 

Farage by the way has never had the chance to govern this country so this would be his first chance.  Perhaps you should educate yourself before claiming others should do so.  

Don't look now @brewsterbudgen

 

Starmer might not even make Christmas 😀😀

 

 

 

Great start to the Labour Conference 😀😀

20 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

OMG....another four years of Farage banging on about immigrants and how he is bound to be the next PM..........four years!

But nobody id forcing you to read posts about Farage or to read any post for that hatter.

 

If you don't like the post, simply skip over it.

 

Labour have never been as ruthless as the Tory's when it comes to getting rid of their leader the Tory's changing leaders and Prime Ministers multiple times didn't exactly do them any good last time, they should have stuck with Boris.

 

The question for Labour is if they got rid of Starmer who have they got to replace him with and would they be any better.

 

It does look as though Starmer is out of his depth on some thing not all perhaps given time he will learn, time will tell   (if he's given the chance).

Brussels Bully's most MEP's but they couldn't bully Farage he called them out for what they are and they didn't like it as the Video posted by nauseus. If you ever listen to Farage its not just about the Migrants you should try it instead of blaming him for Brexit. As for Starmer his team are leaving or being changed a sighn of weakness with 2 already being lined up to replace him. The poll Tax ended Thatcher in the end. Starmers lied to get elected and in the end it will cost him.

 

 

You can put the red thumbs emoji on my posts all you want the truth hurts its water off a Ducks back to me.

5 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

You can put the red thumbs emoji on my posts all you want the truth hurts its water off a Ducks back to me.

Is that why you normally flounce out of threads when someone presents you with facts?

Ha ha hiding behing the keyboard.

No joe I respond to most posts unlike some on here who are to spineless to post so they use the Red Thumb under there somebody name as usual.

I'm a total whore when it comes to voting no loyalty from me I'll vote for anybody depending on who is going to be better for me on the day.

23 minutes ago, Bannoi said:

I'm a total whore when it comes to voting no loyalty from me I'll vote for anybody depending on who is going to be better for me on the day.

 

Lotta voting whores out there.

 

Not voting Labour though 😀😀

 

Last 3 Council election results.

 

 

 

3 hours ago, billd766 said:

But nobody id forcing you to read posts about Farage or to read any post for that hatter.

 

If you don't like the post, simply skip over it.

 

 

Skipping your for sure....555

On 9/26/2025 at 1:42 PM, The Cyclist said:

Further details

 

 

Somewhere to the left of that left-most graph. They certainly won't get enough to be able to form a majority government, and nobody wants to enter a coalition with them either. The 'old guard' will delve into all sorts of political tricks and horse-trading such as strategic voting (and some behind-the-scenes skulduggery) to keep 'honest' Nigel in his wee wanabe box.

22 hours ago, The Cyclist said:

41 Council Elections between now and the 20th Oct.

 

Another drubbing for Labour in these Council Elections will see Starmer gone by Christmas

 

The internal implosion within Labour, will probably see a GE happening well before 2029

 

For anyone who wants to follow these Council elections, you can get a snapshot and update for 2025 here

 

https://electionmaps.uk/byelections-since-le2025

 

If Starmer falls on his sword (unlikely), and with the absence of 'honest' Angela, the extremely clever and knowledgeable Wes Streeting will be foisted on the great unwashed which is more than enough time to put Humpty Dumpty together before the 2027 election that Labour will call and win.

 

Deal with it.

1 hour ago, BarraMarra said:

No joe I respond to most posts unlike some on here who are to spineless to post so they use the Red Thumb under there somebody name as usual.

 

I will have you note that I have never, ever used ANY sort of childish and puerile emoji when responding to any member's posts.

 

EVER.

1 minute ago, NanLaew said:

Deal with it.

 

What do I have  to deal with ?

 

It would appear that Labour have many issues that they have to " Deal with "

 

 

It gets better 😀😀