3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Sad for the old lady, but breaking the law does not become OK just because a few years have passed. 

 

It's actually a good deterrent to let people know that they can run but eventually their crimes catch up to them. Her last appeal was 20 years ago, that was probably long enough to get a flight booked. 

Interesting, years gone by do not matters, should be a great inspiration for the natives, and also those who where taken from their countries against their will and kept as slaves. Your mindset about right and wrong is ignorant and also deadly wrong. 

 

Wondering how some of you can sleep in the nights?

43 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Interesting, years gone by do not matters, should be a great inspiration for the natives, and also those who where taken from their countries against their will and kept as slaves. Your mindset about right and wrong is ignorant and also deadly wrong. 

 

Wondering how some of you can sleep in the nights?

 

What has any of that got to do with a law breaking immigrant from India?

 

She lost the appeal, she needs to leave. Simple as...

7 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

What has any of that got to do with a law breaking immigrant from India?

 

She lost the appeal, she needs to leave. Simple as...

You are right, afterall, not different from Thailand. No matter how long you stayed, and paid your duties and spending your hard earned money, you are straight out at once you can not proof your legal stay. As it should be no matter you have nothing to turn back to. Pure logic

 

Not even trying to be funny. 

1 hour ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

You've tricked yourself playing your own word games. They weren't "Americans" they were dispersed tribes that crossed over from Asia. They predated America and thus have literally nothing to do with its founding. Even calling them Indians makes more sense than native Americans or better yet call them by their tribes name.

I am referring to the pre-Clovis population who were eliminated by the Asian arrivals.

 

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Sucks to overstay and get caught. Like a Russian in Phuket.

 

She wasn't "caught"

 

She was in contact with the authorities the entire time she was in the US:

 

"After her appeals were rejected, Ms Kaur continued to stay and work in the US, as she lacked the proper documents to return to India.

Since then, she was asked to report to immigration authorities every six months. She was arrested in San Francisco when she had gone for a check-in."

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0jqvz24llyo

 

 

 

Appalling from ICE and all you guys who wanted her deported. Obviously, you don't have grandmothers! No compassion.

8 hours ago, Tug said:

Omg that criminal mastermind we are saved from this criminal granny did they send the swat team all kitted out with assault gear vests and masks??did they get in a high speed chase her with her hurry cane and them with ford interceptors???just pathetic sad 😞 I hope she still has family there.

Tug is always first.  Do you wet yourself when you see something on Trump that you can provide a negative comment?

5 hours ago, Purdey said:

I don't know the procedure but, did she have money to buy food on her return? Did she have somewhere to live? Family or whatever. 

I am puzzled about how people who left their homeland 30 years ago can survive upon return.

She has no family or friends, all deceased. Why deport her, she was gainfully employed and wasn't a burden, it seems she was well liked in the community. The good Christians in America buy bibles but don't read them apparently.

25 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

She has no family or friends, all deceased. Why deport her, she was gainfully employed and wasn't a burden, it seems she was well liked in the community. The good Christians in America buy bibles but don't read them apparently.

Should be given a humanitarian visa considering her advance age and years in the States. If Melanie can be given an EB-1 Einstein visa for absolutely zero reason, scarce reason why granny not given a chance to remain. 

7 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Sad for the old lady, but breaking the law does not become OK just because a few years have passed. 

 

It's actually a good deterrent to let people know that they can run but eventually their crimes catch up to them. Her last appeal was 20 years ago, that was probably long enough to get a flight booked. 

Oh, but it does.

 

Do you know it's illegal to hire undocumented workers in the US? How many white company owners have been stalked, grabbed and arrested by the stormtroopers of ICE?

 

There's a guy who has employed undocumented workers going all the way back to the early 1980s. He hired undocumentwed Poles to build his eponymous tower in NYC. He hired undocumented Central and South Americans for his wedding planning facility and golf clubs in Florida and New Jersey up to 2017.

 

That was illegal in 1080 and all the way through 2017.

 

Should ICE stormtroopers raid 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and grabbed the lawbreaker?

 

"Breaking the law does not become OK just because a few years have passed".

 

MAGA=hypocrites.

6 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Are there really 'native' Americans, or just 'earlier' immigrants ?

 

No one is naive to North America. As you correctly state they were just the first immigrants who came a long long time ago. 

 

So ironic that the White Jeebus Christian Nationalists like the late Charlie Kirk ignore the actual teachings of the person they claim is their lord and savior (his widow, to her credit, embraced the true teachings of the Jesus of the Gospels).  Of course, White Jeebus is all about power and control, not even loosely or tangentially associated with anything the Gospel Jesus taught.

 

Humility, care for the poor, care for the sick, welcome the stranger, turn the other cheek, eschew material wealth.....none of that is part of the White Jeebus Evangelical movement. Those things are only the Jesus of the Gospels.

 

If there was a real Jesus, and he had the power to welcome folks into paradise or send them into eternal flames, Trump and all of MAGA would be well advised to stalk up on SPF-666.

 

MAGAs are too dumb to know the tactics of Trump and his inner circle:  give dumb people things to hate, get their votes, and then use power for tax cuts for the uber elite and for control of the masses.

 

Trump gave you "rapists and murderers from Central and South America" who are out to get you, but IGNORES the white business owners who hire undocumented migrants who by and large commit crimes to a far lesser extent than legal Americans. Rather than close the border, it would have been much easier and much more effective to arrest business owners who hire the undocumented workers. But no way they'd upset those in the Donor Class. MAAGAs get woodies when they see ICE stormtroopers grab a 73 year old grandma.

14 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Oh, but it does.

 

Do you know it's illegal to hire undocumented workers in the US? How many white company owners have been stalked, grabbed and arrested by the stormtroopers of ICE?

 

There's a guy who has employed undocumented workers going all the way back to the early 1980s. He hired undocumentwed Poles to build his eponymous tower in NYC. He hired undocumented Central and South Americans for his wedding planning facility and golf clubs in Florida and New Jersey up to 2017.

 

That was illegal in 1080 and all the way through 2017.

 

Should ICE stormtroopers raid 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and grabbed the lawbreaker?

 

"Breaking the law does not become OK just because a few years have passed".

 

MAGA=hypocrites.

 

I wasn't aware this lady was a construction worker.

 

Scaffolder or Bricklayer?

19 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

No one is naive to North America. As you correctly state they were just the first immigrants who came a long long time ago. 

 

If Mr Norway's ancestors, Eric & friends, would have hung out, I might be holding a ScandiaLand passport 

15 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I wasn't aware this lady was a construction worker.

 

Scaffolder or Bricklayer?

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume you're trying to obfuscate, and that you're not really as ignorant and clueless as your comment might otherwise suggest. Maybe I'm being too generous.

 

Apparently, in MAGAstan, there are laws you can break repeatedly and never face consequences (hiring undocumented workers, for example). There are other laws that get you visits from ICE stormtroopers.

8 minutes ago, Wingate said:

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume you're trying to obfuscate, and that you're not really as ignorant and clueless as your comment might otherwise suggest. Maybe I'm being too generous.

 

Apparently, in MAGAstan, there are laws you can break repeatedly and never face consequences (hiring undocumented workers, for example). There are other laws that get you visits from ICE stormtroopers.

 

88

I wish the Thai government would deport some of the illegal squatter Indians in Thailand that constantly pester me to buy a suit. 

1 hour ago, Wingate said:

So ironic that the White Jeebus Christian Nationalists like the late Charlie Kirk ignore the actual teachings of the person they claim is their lord and savior (his widow, to her credit, embraced the true teachings of the Jesus of the Gospels).  Of course, White Jeebus is all about power and control, not even loosely or tangentially associated with anything the Gospel Jesus taught.

 

Humility, care for the poor, care for the sick, welcome the stranger, turn the other cheek, eschew material wealth.....none of that is part of the White Jeebus Evangelical movement. Those things are only the Jesus of the Gospels.

 

If there was a real Jesus, and he had the power to welcome folks into paradise or send them into eternal flames, Trump and all of MAGA would be well advised to stalk up on SPF-666.

 

MAGAs are too dumb to know the tactics of Trump and his inner circle:  give dumb people things to hate, get their votes, and then use power for tax cuts for the uber elite and for control of the masses.

 

Trump gave you "rapists and murderers from Central and South America" who are out to get you, but IGNORES the white business owners who hire undocumented migrants who by and large commit crimes to a far lesser extent than legal Americans. Rather than close the border, it would have been much easier and much more effective to arrest business owners who hire the undocumented workers. But no way they'd upset those in the Donor Class. MAAGAs get woodies when they see ICE stormtroopers grab a 73 year old grandma.

But you don't have to be white or of any religion at all to be a normal decent human being, you just need to be brought up as  a normal decent human being and taught to be a real caring and sharing person, to instinctively know the difference between good and bad, right and wrong, truth and lies.

 

The older generation with some exceptions already know that , as that is the way that we were brought up.

 

Sadly somewhere along the way there was a disconnect and things seem to matter and be more important than people.

 

6 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

You've tricked yourself playing your own word games. They weren't "Americans" they were dispersed tribes that crossed over from Asia. They predated America and thus have literally nothing to do with its founding. Even calling them Indians makes more sense than native Americans or better yet call them by their tribes name.

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7 hours ago, JonnyF said:

But everyone knows white males get no sympathy. 

 

 

It's the bigotry of low expectations. When you're white they expect you to follow the law or face consequences, if you're brown you're the victim of socioeconomic factors and therefore the rules don't apply. 

 

3 hours ago, Wingate said:

So ironic that the White Jeebus Christian Nationalists like the late Charlie Kirk ignore the actual teachings of the person they claim is their lord and savior (his widow, to her credit, embraced the true teachings of the Jesus of the Gospels).  Of course, White Jeebus is all about power and control, not even loosely or tangentially associated with anything the Gospel Jesus taught.

 

 

You can't fix the world's problems by inviting the entire world in to your country.

 

 

15 hours ago, Tug said:

Omg that criminal mastermind we are saved from this criminal granny did they send the swat team all kitted out with assault gear vests and masks??did they get in a high speed chase her with her hurry cane and them with ford interceptors???just pathetic sad 😞 I hope she still has family there.

so if I rob a bank and then live a good life, nice family, volunteer work etc for 30 years and they then find out I robbed the bank, should I not go to jail?

I've been a good citizen, never broke another law or rule.  Is that ok?

 

I keep hearing we have rules no kings allowed, but then it seems you guys feel it's ok to break some laws. 

Local government refusing to enforce the law. That sounds more like a king action to me, laws? well, we ignore them because we dont like them!

 

What I really dont understand are the people that live in Thailand and have had to jump through hoops to 

get /  keep their visa's but are fine to let people to enter and stay in the US illegally.

 

Do I feel bad for the lady?  sure I do, same when I hear of a guy that has lived in Thailand for years on overstay with no money to go home. 

I feel bad when a young kid get's a DUI, do I condone the actions no, should laws be enforced yes!!!!!

9 hours ago, worgeordie said:

She must be one of those gang members ,Violent criminal types, or maybe

a lunatic that Trump said he was going to deport ,when really her only crime

was been BROWN ....

 

regards Worgeordie 

nope, that was not her crime, it was staying in the US illegally. 

 

 

 

Kick her OUT.

 

Or, can she make a mean VINDALOO?

 

She should have stayed put, where she was.

 

We will not be able to to have ALL 1.8 BILLION Indians in NYC, will we?

 

Or, just send them/her to China, if Xi will have her.....????

 

 

 

7 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Appalling from ICE and all you guys who wanted her deported. Obviously, you don't have grandmothers! No compassion.

I have compassion, I volunteer at a food bank when I'm in the USA, I speak to several people that have overstayed their visa's and

I try and talk to them to get legal but 99% dont care. I've helped a few become US citizens. 

 

I dont have a grandmother any more (it's been 40 years), but if she broker any laws there are consequences.

 

Jus like if you have a kid, they break the rules you enforce the rules, you might feel bad at punishing your kid, but you know you need to do it!

 

 

10 hours ago, EastBayRay said:

No sympathy from me

 

she should have to pay a huge fine before leaving

 

at least 100k

 

 

 The judge denied her requests in California , why didn't she leave ! She could of left using the CBP app  ,Im sure the ACLU has qualified lawyers that could help her re enter her country of origin. Or perhaps ask her legal team to help .

What ever happen to the rule of law , I know what happen it was never enforced.

11 hours ago, Baht Simpson said:

You literally elected one as President. 😀 

18 hours ago, webfact said:

unable to return to India due to missing documentation.

Well ICE sorted it out for her.

16 hours ago, Tug said:

Omg that criminal mastermind we are saved from this criminal granny did they send the swat team all kitted out with assault gear vests and masks??did they get in a high speed chase her with her hurry cane and them with ford interceptors???just pathetic sad 😞 I hope she still has family there.

 

She knew what she was doing and strung out the removal order. Her claim that she did not have the  necessary documentation to return to India is nonsense. 

 

13 hours ago, angryguy said:

Exactly. No sympathy for criminals

 

She was not a criminal as she was not convicted of any crime.

 

12 hours ago, Zimar said:

What would happen to her in Thailand if she overstayed 30 years and was working without work permit?

 

She would be deported. However, the USA considers itself to be more advanced and more compassionate than Thailand.