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Hamas Signals Rejection of Trump Peace Plan Favoring Israel

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16 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   It is actually the Palestinians who originate from Egypt and they are the ones who intend to commit genocide on Jews and its the Palestinians who wont accept  a 2SS

   So, its the Palestinians who need to go back to Egypt 

You are wrong. The current-day Palestinians are descendants of Arabs who were once known as Canaanites and lived in Canaan, which is now equivalent to the region of Palestine.

The Jews originated in the land of Goshen, Egypt. They were enslaved, but escaped their slavery to "wander in the desert" for many years, and finally ended up in Canaan, which they took by force from the native Canaanites (Arabs, now called "Palestinians"). Or so it is claimed in the farsical books called the Bible (Old Testament) and the Torah. In modern history, Jews only made up about 10% of the population of Palestine, but after WWII, their number increased to about 1/3 of the population. The majority were Arab Muslims.

Source of percentages: https://cris.openu.ac.il/en/publications/demography-and-the-struggle-for-palestine-1917-1947#:~:text=While%20the%20proportion%20of%20Arabs%20to%20Jews%20at,in%20the%20country%20and%20twice%20as%20many%20Arabs.

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30 minutes ago, WDSmart said:


The Jews originated in the land of Goshen, Egypt. 

 

   Where was the Jew , Jesus from ?

Nazareth in Israel 

1 hour ago, WDSmart said:

But, back to your comment. I am White, so my forefathers (race) certainly did not originate in what is now called the USA, where I was born, or in Thailand, where I have lived for over 20 years. And the reason I do not believe I "need to go back to...." where my forefathers historically came from is that I am not committing genocide on the native Thais

 

   But your forefathers committed genocide on the American Indians 

44 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Where was the Jew , Jesus from ?

Nazareth in Israel 

Yes, if you believe the New Testament. But that was long after the Jews supposedly escaped their slavery in Egypt and resettled in Canaan, which is now called Palestine. That was "documented" in the book of Exodus, which is in the Old Testament and Torah. 

45 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   But your forefathers committed genocide on the American Indians 

Well, probably not my forefathers, but the White settlers in the 16th and 17th centuries did commit genocide against the American Indians. 

I'm sorry to hear this. What I hope happens is that Hamas returns the proposal, specifying which items they would accept and which they would not, and how these could be modified to accommodate their acceptance.

54 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I'm sorry to hear this. What I hope happens is that Hamas returns the proposal, specifying which items they would accept and which they would not, and how these could be modified to accommodate their acceptance.

I think it is US policy not to negotiate with terrorists. 

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I think it is US policy not to negotiate with terrorists. 

I don't think that's US policy since we (USA) are negotiating with both Russia and Israel. 

23 hours ago, WDSmart said:

Yes, if you believe the New Testament. But that was long after the Jews supposedly escaped their slavery in Egypt and resettled in Canaan, which is now called Palestine. That was "documented" in the book of Exodus, which is in the Old Testament and Torah. 

Never called Palestine, it were called Roma-Philistine, no state nor country in has ever been called Palestine, only used as a term for the region.  The Jews from Judea and Samaria are written about in the Koran, no mention of 'Palestinians'

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3 hours ago, tmd5855 said:

Never called Palestine, it were called Roma-Philistine, no state nor country in has ever been called Palestine, only used as a term for the region.  The Jews from Judea and Samaria are written about in the Koran, no mention of 'Palestinians'

The region was called "Palestine" in 1917 when the British announced "its support for the establishment of a 'national home for the Jewish people' in Palestine, then an Ottoman region with a small minority Jewish population." Balfour Declaration - Wikipedia

 

"Palestine" was also the term used for the region, which, in 1947, was designated and defined as the State of Israel and other territories (Gaza and parts of the West Bank) that were not assigned as part of Israel. United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine - Wikipedia
 

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18 hours ago, WDSmart said:

The region was called "Palestine" in 1917 when the British announced "its support for the establishment of a 'national home for the Jewish people' in Palestine, then an Ottoman region with a small minority Jewish population." Balfour Declaration - Wikipedia

 

"Palestine" was also the term used for the region, which, in 1947, was designated and defined as the State of Israel and other territories (Gaza and parts of the West Bank) that were not assigned as part of Israel. United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine - Wikipedia
 

UN_Palestine_Partition_Versions_1947.jpg

Why do anti-Israeli/Jews always quote 1947/48.

The Philistines were a tribe in the homeland of Cannan, 1200BC, as adversaries of "Tribes of Israel" the Roman occupiers (See what I did) decided to call the region Romano-Philistine to upset the Jews, all this before 1947/48

 

There has never been a country named Palestine that were governed by Palestinians unless you can show link!! 

Apart from the Palestinian ruled state of Gaza never taken back by the Palestinian brothers in Egypt after their own peace deal with Israel which recovered the Sinai including the locked/barred gate at Ramallah caging the Palestinians inside Gaza not allowing their brothers and sisters to flee into Egypt......   I wonder why??

 

in 2005 we had a two state solution but unfortunately the ploughshares left behind were beaten into swords.  Why are the top leaders of Hamas living in millionaire style in Qatar not sharing the pain and suffering of their 'voters'  

 

42 minutes ago, tmd5855 said:

Why are the top leaders of Hamas living in millionaire style in Qatar not sharing the pain and suffering of their 'voters'  

 

 

I would like to see them deported to Gaza.  Let them negotiate from there.

 

1 hour ago, tmd5855 said:

Why do anti-Israeli/Jews always quote 1947/48.
I quote that all the time because that was when the UN devided the region then called "Palestine" into two areas: one was recognized as the state of Israel, and one was left for the Palestinians to live in.

 

The Philistines were a tribe in the homeland of Cannan, 1200BC, as adversaries of "Tribes of Israel" the Roman occupiers (See what I did) decided to call the region Romano-Philistine to upset the Jews, all this before 1947/48
The first mention of this area I know of was in Exodus in the Old Testament, and it was then called "Canaan" and the native residents "Canaanites." In 1917, this area, then called "Palestine," was property of the United Kingdom, and in 1917, they, in the "Balfour Declaration," declared it a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine, then an Ottoman region with a small minority Jewish population." Balfour Declaration - Wikipedia

 

There has never been a country named Palestine that were governed by Palestinians unless you can show link!! 
No, I've never said there was a country/state that was recognized by the UN called "Palestine," but that was what the general territory was called for at least over 100 years.
 

Apart from the Palestinian ruled state of Gaza never taken back by the Palestinian brothers in Egypt after their own peace deal with Israel which recovered the Sinai including the locked/barred gate at Ramallah caging the Palestinians inside Gaza not allowing their brothers and sisters to flee into Egypt......   I wonder why??
I don't understand the comment above. What are you trying to say? That Egypt does not want to accept Palestinians into their country? And, I will not that you now do call the people that lived in the are you are reluctant to name, "Palestinians."

 

in 2005 we had a two state solution but unfortunately the ploughshares left behind were beaten into swords.  Why are the top leaders of Hamas living in millionaire style in Qatar not sharing the pain and suffering of their 'voters' 

The reason swords were drawn is the same reason they have been drawn by both sides since 1947 - Israel keeps trying to take Palestinian land and the Palestinians keep trying to defend their territory. 
I don't know anything about where Hamas leaders are or in what conditions they are living. Since that seems to matter to you, I'll just ask you where and what are the condtions of where Netenyahu lives? 
 

 

See my responses in italics and bold type embedded above.

On 10/6/2025 at 10:45 AM, WDSmart said:

See my responses in italics and bold type embedded above.

Thank you for agreeing in the most roundabout way.

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