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Trump Warns Zelensky: Tomahawk Missile Deal Risks Wider Conflict

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For evil to triumph all it takes is for good men to do nothing.

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  • Such total idiocy with obvious corrupt motives about business "deals" with Russia.  The way to end that war sooner is to arm Ukraine to the teeth and FORCE Russia to the peace table. There i

  • When will people such as yourself give credit to the brave Ukrainian nation facing a foe 4 times their size resisting hoards of raping looting murdering kidnapping criminals?salva Ukraine you brave he

  • Sounds to me that trump has his orders from putin….. taco inbound sad 😞 but not in the least surprised ah well it ain’t over till the fatty sings but I think we know he won’t help Ukraine.

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2 minutes ago, sharot724 said:

Can't live life fearing a saber rattler, sorry. Putin would act only if he knew he was already dead.

Yeah sure of course, more death and destruction is the only option for the emotionally engaged thinkers. 

42 minutes ago, JimHuaHin said:

Putin knows that if the conflict widens, Russia is dead.

 

Best solution - Putin and co resign.

He can't. Unfortunately.

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14 minutes ago, novacova said:

Yeah sure of course, more death and destruction is the only option for the emotionally engaged thinkers. 

My thinking is you sound like a real coward. .

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8 minutes ago, sharot724 said:

My thinking is you sound like a real coward. .

So now you look like a genuine leftie, no real solutions. Just pea brain emotional responses which is of course cowardly.

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I would have preferred the West and Ukraine honour the Minsk agreement than war with Russia! 

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Ursula von der Leyen has admitted that the Minsk agreement were just a ruse to  buy time to arm Ukraine.

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1 minute ago, johng said:

Ursula von der Leyen has admitted that the Minsk agreement were just a ruse to  buy time to arm Ukraine.

 

 

Where/when did she say that?

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20 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Where/when did she say that?

Apologies  wrong woman  it was

former German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

7 hours ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

When will the corruption or embezzlement scandals show up in Ukraine with regard to the billions send over ? 

 

Some press reports state that the soldiers going on the front lines in some ukrainian regions were required to pay for their updated military gear that was donated by the west...

They will show up just after YOU provide the proof and the verifiable links.

 

It is strange how much you are whining but rarely come up with any proof of links.

 

You claim that some press reports (snipped from your post  Some press reports  state that the soldiers going on the front lines in some Ukrainian regions were required to pay for their updated military gear that was donated by the west...)

 

However, you don't mention which press reports that they are, where the information came from, or even which newspapers they are, and the you expect people to take your post at face value.

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He'll ship Tomahawks by the end of the month.

3 hours ago, 300sd said:

I would have preferred the West and Ukraine honour the Minsk agreement than war with Russia! 

Please remind us all which president of which country declared war on the Ukraine.

 

Do a search and a good look at both the Minsk 1 and the Minsk 2 agreements and see who agreed to what.

37 minutes ago, connda said:

He'll ship Tomahawks by the end of the month.

But the USA will control the targeting of them.

 

Just a complete waste of time and money, unless the Ukrainians are allowed full control of them.

2 hours ago, johng said:

Apologies  wrong woman  it was

former German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

 

Never mind the name confusion, still waiting for the link..........from a credible source

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

Please remind us all which president of which country declared war on the Ukraine.

 

Do a search and a good look at both the Minsk 1 and the Minsk 2 agreements and see who agreed to what.

You should follow your own orders.

51 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Never mind the name confusion, still waiting for the link..........from a credible source

https://www.reuters.com/world/putin-russia-may-have-make-ukraine-deal-one-day-partners-cheated-past-2022-12-09/

 

In an interview published in Germany's Zeit magazine on Wednesday, former German chancellor Angela Merkel said that the Minsk agreements had been an attempt to "give Ukraine time" to build up its defences.

Speaking on Friday at a news conference in Kyrgyzstan, Putin said he was "disappointed" by Merkel's comments.

 

And

https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-russias-foreign-minister-claims-at-un-security-council-minsk-agreement/a-65422713

 

Another statement that Lavrov may be alluding to in this context was made by Angela Merkel in December 2022 when she told German weekly Die Zeit: "And the Minsk Agreement in 2014 was an attempt to give Ukraine time. It has used this time to become stronger,

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Putin knows that if he doesn't come out of this with a "win" then he and his cronies are toast!

There will be a pusch and God knows who will be in the Kremlin. 

 

Its high stakes at play, not just Ukraine.

1 hour ago, johng said:

https://www.reuters.com/world/putin-russia-may-have-make-ukraine-deal-one-day-partners-cheated-past-2022-12-09/

 

In an interview published in Germany's Zeit magazine on Wednesday, former German chancellor Angela Merkel said that the Minsk agreements had been an attempt to "give Ukraine time" to build up its defences.

Speaking on Friday at a news conference in Kyrgyzstan, Putin said he was "disappointed" by Merkel's comments.

 

And

https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-russias-foreign-minister-claims-at-un-security-council-minsk-agreement/a-65422713

 

Another statement that Lavrov may be alluding to in this context was made by Angela Merkel in December 2022 when she told German weekly Die Zeit: "And the Minsk Agreement in 2014 was an attempt to give Ukraine time. It has used this time to become stronger,

 

The Minsk Agreements wouldn't have been necessary if Russia had not annexed Crimea and offered military support to separatist rebels in the Donbass.

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Such total idiocy with obvious corrupt motives about business "deals" with Russia. 

The way to end that war sooner is to arm Ukraine to the teeth and FORCE Russia to the peace table.

There is no other way.

Nonsense.

The way to end this war in a way that gets territory returned is secondary sanctions.

 

All countries must stop India, China and anyone else from buying Russian oil. 
 

You buy Russian oil, no trade with you. Painful for all unfortunately.

2 hours ago, 300sd said:

You should follow your own orders.

And if I as your leader, order you to shoot and kill a pregnant woman of a child, you would instantly do it without question?

 

That would make both of us brainless morons and war criminals.

 

Fortunately, in the military that I served in for 25 years that never occurred.

 

If it had then I would have refused to shoot.

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While telling Zelensky that supplying him with Tomahawks is on hold Trump will, no doubt, tell Putin that without a ceasefire he will supply the Tomahawks to Ukraine. It's called negotiating.

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21 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

While telling Zelensky that supplying him with Tomahawks is on hold Trump will, no doubt, tell Putin that without a ceasefire he will supply the Tomahawks to Ukraine. It's called negotiating.

But of course with whatever Putin has on/over Trump will ensure Trump remains the TACO that he has become famous for.

6 minutes ago, xylophone said:

But of course with whatever Putin has on/over Trump will ensure Trump remains the TACO that he has become famous for.

We shall see.

How can Trump stand this snout? Please look again - Yuck! 🤢

Whole war based on his personal hatred toward Putin and unbelievable greed. Nothing else.

7 hours ago, johng said:

Apologies  wrong woman  it was

former German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

She never said it was a ruse! It's Putin who said that! :coffee1:

 

She said:

“The 2014 Minsk Agreement was an attempt to give Ukraine time. Ukraine used this time to become stronger, as you can see today.”

3 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

You buy Russian oil, no trade with you. Painful for all unfortunately.

Only painful for the idiots not willing to trade..Russia will still have all the cheap energy it needs and sell to its BRICS trading partners.

1 hour ago, candide said:

She never said it was a ruse! It's Putin who said that! :coffee1:

You obviously can't read !   it was Merkel who said what she said.

1 minute ago, johng said:

Only painful for the idiots not willing to trade..Russia will still have all the cheap energy it needs and sell to its BRICS trading partners.


I think you misunderstood my post.

 

If Europe and America banned trade with any country buying Russian oil, that would stop most BRICS countries in their tracks.  They wouldn’t buy Russian oil.

 

However the pain would be immense.  The British have a history of making the right moral decisions resulting in immense hardship.

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