1 hour ago, alex8912 said:

I read that both of the victims were on the job less than 24hrs. 20 and 24 years old. Pretty sad 

Agreed. Very sad. But they shouldn't have ever been there. 

19 hours ago, Yagoda said:

They were sure trained enough to shoot the ILLIGAL ALIEN MUSLIM AFGHANI WHO WAS LET INTO OUR COUNTRY BY THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION.

 

You dont know the first thing about Police or military training regardless.

Yep. Onward to the revolution.

 

Enforce the law on the books? Unlike his predecessor

The shooter was allowed in by Trumps admin not Biden SO again you need to check facts.  Typical bs from a know nothing sheep.  

19 hours ago, KhunLA said:

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Thank you Biden ... no vetting ???, during cluster<deleted> of withdrawal.  IMHO

 

The type of person ICE is trying to deport and possibly protected by Dem sanctuary city & states.  The Dems now oppose said ICE actions ... how I read it anyway ... IMHO

 

Even have judge ruling against deportations even personally helping evade ICE, or so I read.

 

... all IMHO

 

Keep deporting them all, THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP

Make America Safer Again

 

Maybe start by designating the Democratic party a terrorist group 

 

The shooter was vetted under trump 

2 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

I just hope that this is not another Pizzagate Conspiracy.

 

Is the USA out of control, yet?

 

 

No but trump and his minions are 

5 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

The concern is that the National Guard may not be the most appropriate personnel to assist with daily public safety. Many US citizens do not want to see  military personnel in battle gear deployed on their streets. USA isn't supposed to be a war zone.

 

You'd think there would be some in the US studying and learning from history. Its generally agreed that the deployment of British troops to Northern Ireland to support the local police was a huge error. It wasn't until the 1980s that the troops were even brought under some sort of police command.

 

The effect was to both encourage the terrorists (of all persuasions) but also treat some British citizens as second class. Such as me.

2 hours ago, alex8912 said:

Amazing. You're the first to post as usual. You post a big fat lie that both victims are dead and 1 hour later it's " I'm delightfully corrected" and your very next comment is back to maga/ trump derangement. Unreal. 

I’m in the states presently perhaps that’s why sometimes I’m the first to post,as the main stream media was reporting they were dead …..of course I’m happy that information was wrong.you are correct in your opinion about me that I view trump/ magga as a threat towards our democracy that I cherish and love.just imagine if FDR acted like trump when Churchill and Britain stood alone against the Nazi…..Alex that’s just one issue amongst many….another easy one is the clown car cabinet….so spare me your angst.

1 minute ago, Tug said:

I’m in the states presently perhaps that’s why sometimes I’m the first to post,as the main stream media was reporting they were dead …..of course I’m happy that information was wrong.you are correct in your opinion about me that I view trump/ magga as a threat towards our democracy that I cherish and love.just imagine if FDR acted like trump when Churchill and Britain stood alone against the Nazi…..Alex that’s just one issue amongst many….another easy one is the clown car cabinet….so spare me your angst.

Another boring post. 

2 opinions from NY Times 27 NOV 2025:

 

The Trump administration has begun a new review of asylum cases that were approved under the Biden administration, said Tricia McLaughlin, a Homeland Security Department spokeswoman. She accused the previous administration of failing to vet the applicants “on a massive scale.”

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Mayor Muriel Bowser of Washington has been outspoken in her disapproval of the deployment of states’ National Guard units in the city. In her brief comments at the news conference, she said, “These young people should be at home in West Virginia with their families.”

4 hours ago, alex8912 said:

You post a big fat lie that both victims are dead 

 

The governor of West Virginia reported their deaths. The parents of one of the Guardsman has stated their daughter is unliley to survive. It might have been a mistaken report, but not a "big fat lie". Unfortunately, this forum doesn't allow correction of posts. The Moderators could enable that functon.

3 hours ago, Dan O said:

The shooter was vetted under trump 

The terrorist entered the US from Afghanistan in September of 2021. Now remind me (as my memory isnt that good), WHO was president at that time? Therefore who was responsible for vetting and clearing him?

 

Thanks. 

 

And sadly, the family of 20 year old Sarah Beckstrom have indicated that she will not recover.  

Just now, Hanaguma said:

The terrorist entered the US from Afghanistan in September of 2021. Now remind me (as my memory isnt that good), WHO was president at that time? Therefore who was responsible for vetting and clearing him?

 

Thanks. 

 

And sadly, the family of 20 year old Sarah Beckstrom have indicated that she will not recover.  

 

Every member of Nato present in Afghanistan brought with them long term afghan service personnel who helped us during the war against Taliban. Those who where left behind was executed or worse tortured and jailed. It is dirty how many wasn’t even considered worthy being taken care of. 

 

Many of this guys had been fighting side by side with the alliance. Is it surprising one of them have snapped ? 

 

Trump blaiming Biden for this? Christ sake get real 

5 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

The terrorist entered the US from Afghanistan in September of 2021. Now remind me (as my memory isnt that good), WHO was president at that time? Therefore who was responsible for vetting and clearing him?

 

Thanks. 

 

And sadly, the family of 20 year old Sarah Beckstrom have indicated that she will not recover.  

And just who pray tell surrendered Afghanistan without the participation of their government pray tell??just who freed all the terrorists from the afghan prisons??please remind me hanaguma….who poisoned the well to the best of their ability to leave a mess for the next administration??thanks……

2 minutes ago, Tug said:

And just who pray tell surrendered Afghanistan without the participation of their government pray tell??just who freed all the terrorists from the afghan prisons??please remind me hanaguma….who poisoned the well to the best of their ability to leave a mess for the next administration??thanks……

That would be.....the Biden Administration?

 

The disastrous withdrawl happened during his watch.  Ordered by his government.  The admission of nearly a hundred thousand Afghans with minimal security checks also happened during the Biden years.  

 

Next question?

8 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

That would be.....the Biden Administration?

 

The disastrous withdrawl happened during his watch.  Ordered by his government.  The admission of nearly a hundred thousand Afghans with minimal security checks also happened during the Biden years.  

 

Next question?

Nope trump freed the prisoners trump negotiated with the Taliban without the afghan government representation im surprised you are unaware of that perhaps because you aren’t even American could have something to do with it?and yup the withdrawal was a mess that did happen on Biden’s watch.

1 minute ago, Tug said:

Nope trump freed the prisoners trump negotiated with the Taliban without the afghan government representation im surprised you are unaware of that perhaps because you aren’t even American could have something to do with it?and yup the withdrawal was a mess that did happen on Biden’s watch.

Nope, nice little attempted dig using nationality there though. Well done, and quite original.

 

Nothing Trump did can excuse the decision to fold up the tent and run like Biden did. He also left behind billions of dollars in military hardware, a totally unnecessary flub. He foolishly thought the Afghan military had any value whatsoever, they did not. Good old Joe, the foreign policy expert...

National Guard member Sarah Beckstrom dies after DC shooting

 

Picture courtesy of CNN

 

In a tragic turn of events in Washington DC, one National Guard member has died following a shooting near Farragut Square.

 

Full story: https://aseannow.com/topic/1380113-national-guard-member-sarah-beckstrom-dies-after-dc-shooting/

 

12 minutes ago, theshu25 said:

As per ususal you got it wrong. The mongrel shooter arrived under your grifting gods watch.                                         

However, Lakanwal applied for asylum in 2024 and was granted it in April under the current Trump administration, law enforcement officials told CNN.

 

 

 

           

Not quite. He arrived in September 2021, under the previous administration. They granted him status, they supposedly did a security check. His application for asylum was accepted under their watch. The judge who granted asylum was a Biden appointee.

 

Anything else?

11 hours ago, JAG said:

You are probably the most unoriginal and predictable poster on this forum!

But I dont support terrorist murder, jew hate and racism like you

4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

But I dont support terrorist murder, jew hate and racism like you

Sorry guv I've scratched the record, scratched the record, scratched the record, scratched the record...

 

For the umpteenth time, I do not support terrorist murder (have actively fought against it), do not hate Jews and am not racist.

 

I make no claim to be a political "Pollyanna" but just disagree with you fundamentally - which does seem to bring out the frothy mouthed in you!

4 minutes ago, JAG said:

Sorry guv I've scratched the record, scratched the record, scratched the record, scratched the record...

Translation: I cant deny my anti semitism, anti Americanism, love of murder and jihad.

3 hours ago, TedG said:

Another boring post. 

You left out the words, incoherent and hate ridden

11 hours ago, Jingthing said:

This is kind of on plan for the fascist Trump regime.

He expected lall kinds of violence in his reaction to his military federalization in U.S. cities.

Getting the violence gives him more fuel to go even further.

Not saying a false flag but it's the kind of thing you would do in a false flag.

Yuu are sick. That girl  died to keep things like you from being tossed off a roof.

4 hours ago, Dan O said:

Typical bs from a know nothing sheep.  

Typical lie from the supporters of the murder of this brave soldier

On 11/27/2025 at 12:38 AM, Yagoda said:

They were sure trained enough to shoot the ILLIGAL ALIEN MUSLIM AFGHANI WHO WAS LET INTO OUR COUNTRY BY THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION.

 

You dont know the first thing about Police or military training regardless.

Yep. Onward to the revolution.

 

Enforce the law on the books? Unlike his predecessor

Calm down, old man. Before you get your Depends in a twist, you might want to know why people like the Afghani are in the US.

 

Also, since you never served, things like gratitude and compassion toward allies are alien concepts, especially since all you live for is to blame "others".

 

First, the Afghan War always was a mistake. After 9-11, the agency warned Bush that any attempt to do anything more than take out the al Qaeda camps would result in a protracted war that could never be won. The Bush Administration was blissfully unaware of Afghanistan history. Perhaps if a few senior members had read something like Peter Hopkirk's book "The Great Game", they would have understood. They might also have paid attention to a familiar phrase that has versions in Tajik, Pushto, Dari and Arabic:

 

"Me against my brother; my brother and I against you".

 

Well, water under the bridge...the US invaded and spent two decades and $3 trillion in a failed effort to impose values on a country where our system is both alien and unworkable. Iraq was even a worse mistake.

 

So when a military action occurs in a foreign land, the US needs the help of local citizens for everything from translation to intelligence to labor. The people who work with us instantly become "traitors", at least to whatever group we are fighting. Their lives, and the lives of their families, are in danger. When such wars end, especially in a loss or tie like Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, the Americans who worked with and benefited from the locals, want to help people they know full well will be tortured and executed after the US leaves.

 

After Vietnam the US brought in tens of thousands of people who had aided US efforts in Vietnam. The same in Cambodia and Laos. After Iraq, the same. And after Afghanistan, 50-80,000 Afghans were allowed into the US.

 

In each case, there are some bad apples. Some Vietnamese established gangs and criminal organizations which have been involved in drug running, protection rackets, prostitution and murder. Same same Cambodians and Laotians. Some Iraqis are fanatical and are a threat. Some Afghanis are the same.

 

The vast majority of Vietnamese, Cambodians, Laotians, Iraqis and Afghanis allowed into the US have become law-abiding, peaceful and solid citizens, grateful for the chance.

 

For you to blame Biden or lefties or Democrats for a practice every President since LBJ has followed is hypocrisy.

 

If you want a convoluted excuse, how about this:

 

Blame DOGE. If Musk hadn't hired Big Balls, who subsequently got beaten up by a 15 year old girl, Trump wouldn't have sent in the National Guard, who then would not have been targets of this killer.

 

Sounds silly? Yes. So does your silly MAGA excuse.

22 hours ago, billd766 said:

And did the left send the National Guard to Washington?

 

 

No but they encouraged, cheered, celebrated and made excuses for the Muslim murderer who ambushed a woman.

 

Have you guys noticed that? Its always women and children.

3 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Calm down, old man. Before you get your Depends in a twist, you might want to know why people like the Afghani are in the US.

 

Also, since you never served, things like gratitude and compassion toward allies are alien concepts, especially since all you live for is to blame "others".

 

First, the Afghan War always was a mistake. After 9-11, the agency warned Bush that any attempt to do anything more than take out the al Qaeda camps would result in a protracted war that could never be won. The Bush Administration was blissfully unaware of Afghanistan history. Perhaps if a few senior members had read something like Peter Hopkirk's book "The Great Game", they would have understood. They might also have paid attention to a familiar phrase that has versions in Tajik, Pushto, Dari and Arabic:

 

"Me against my brother; my brother and I against you".

 

Well, water under the bridge...the US invaded and spent two decades and $3 trillion in a failed effort to impose values on a country where our system is both alien and unworkable. Iraq was even a worse mistake.

 

So when a military action occurs in a foreign land, the US needs the help of local citizens for everything from translation to intelligence to labor. The people who work with us instantly become "traitors", at least to whatever group we are fighting. Their lives, and the lives of their families, are in danger. When such wars end, especially in a loss or tie like Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, the Americans who worked with and benefited from the locals, want to help people they know full well will be tortured and executed after the US leaves.

 

After Vietnam the US brought in tens of thousands of people who had aided US efforts in Vietnam. The same in Cambodia and Laos. After Iraq, the same. And after Afghanistan, 50-80,000 Afghans were allowed into the US.

 

In each case, there are some bad apples. Some Vietnamese established gangs and criminal organizations which have been involved in drug running, protection rackets, prostitution and murder. Same same Cambodians and Laotians. Some Iraqis are fanatical and are a threat. Some Afghanis are the same.

 

The vast majority of Vietnamese, Cambodians, Laotians, Iraqis and Afghanis allowed into the US have become law-abiding, peaceful and solid citizens, grateful for the chance.

 

For you to blame Biden or lefties or Democrats for a practice every President since LBJ has followed is hypocrisy.

 

If you want a convoluted excuse, how about this:

 

Blame DOGE. If Musk hadn't hired Big Balls, who subsequently got beaten up by a 15 year old girl, Trump wouldn't have sent in the National Guard, who then would not have been targets of this killer.

 

Sounds silly? Yes. So does your silly MAGA excuse.

Nice spin. Was this dude vetted?

16 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Nice spin. Was this dude vetted?

Vetted as much as any Vietnamese, Cambodian, Laotian, Iraqi or fellow Afghani was. I don't recall you cursing Nixon the last time a Vietnamese migrant committed murder.

 

Oh, and some Afghanis were allowed into the US under Trump 1.0. Biden merely continued Trump's practice, as was also the practice of Obama, Bush II, Clinton (former Kosovans)....all the way back to Truman (Koreans who would have been above the parallel). It's primarily the military who pushes for certain people to be allowed into the US.

 

You just want to hate. Knock yourself silly, if hate is all that keeps you alive.

 

You are incapable of understanding gratitude toward allies, something those who served understand.

 

 

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Agreed. Very sad. But they shouldn't have ever been there. 

With all due respect and full honors to Sarah Beckstrom, who has died, and her colleague who remains in critical condition, as you say it is really unfortunate that they were unnecessarily placed in that situation in the first place. And it is also unfortunate that the shooter in this case is an Afghan national; whatever his motive, this will only serve to feed racism in the United States, given full license by the current administration to openly thrive and now likely to spin completely out of control.

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