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Kill or be killed, that is the question

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20 hours ago, blaze master said:

Spight difference between someone who sins and someone who murders.

Someone who steals a candy bar cannot be compared to someone who kills.

You give up your human card when you cross certain lines. To conflate small sins to things like murder rape etc is simply disingenuous and cannot be taken seriously.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. I do think that there are certain lines that one crosses in this lifetime which essentially amount to a self-rification of the right to consume oxygen.

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5 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

We have too many people on the planet losing a few here and there is a good thing.

Are you volunteering to be one of those casualties?

3 hours ago, MIke B Bad said:

People are far to indoctrinated (by the church and TV) with this "woe is me" attitude....I must grieve........ this is the end of my world....I can't cope.

With the exception of my own children and grandchildren I really couldn't give a flying about anyone else (wife maybe?).

Watching people crying their hearts out over people they haven't even met is pathetic.

It's called having empathy and sympathy, two similar but different things. Caring only about yourself, although you did list the kids, is being self centered and anti social. The opposite of this is Civism. Going too far with selfishness is APD or Narcissism. These are easy terms to look up. It also doesn't have to be church oriented, although those who are good Christians do have feelings for others they don't yet know.

There are millions of people who are emotional now seeing Iran's people celebrating with this possible regime over throwing, as they've lived it and know more than others how it is. Putting yourself in their shoes and feeling what they feel is empathy. You either are one way or the other, and it comes from childhood.

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31 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Are you volunteering to be one of those casualties?

Hello mate, it's nice to talk to you again.

We got off on the wrong foot the other day.

I prefer not to volunteer my life is too good.

I'm living in the dream

9 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

All it takes is enough of us refusing, enough of us speaking out.

Yeah, yeah! We get it! Go ahead and start your club you always dreamt of.

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1 hour ago, scottiejohn said:

Are you volunteering to be one of those casualties?

Soon, I'm 75. Wait for it!

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17 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Yeah, yeah! We get it! Go ahead and start your club you always dreamt of.

Had it in the Vietnam peace and antidraft movement (US), the antilogging movement (Canada). I have been arrested dozens of times for protests and served a fair amount in prison for it.

In Thailand, I co-founded both Freedom Against Censorship (FACT) and the Nonviolent Conflict Workshop. It doesn't require any kind of joining. All it requires is speaking out.

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

. Caring only about yourself, although you did list the kids, is being self centered and anti social

It also shows psychopathic tendencies.

2 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I prefer not to volunteer my life is too good.

I'm living in the dream

Is that why you volunteer others to die?

7 hours ago, fittobethaied said:

and HE says that sometimes one's thoughts, and not just their evil doings, break the Commandments.

The Commandments. People needed to be told explicitly that killing was bad. That's how barbaric they were at the time and infantile the religious teachings were. And not sure we've improved that much in 2000 years.

8 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

It's called having empathy and sympathy, two similar but different things. Caring only about yourself, although you did list the kids, is being self centered and anti social. The opposite of this is Civism. Going too far with selfishness is APD or Narcissism. These are easy terms to look up. It also doesn't have to be church oriented, although those who are good Christians do have feelings for others they don't yet know.

There are millions of people who are emotional now seeing Iran's people celebrating with this possible regime over throwing, as they've lived it and know more than others how it is. Putting yourself in their shoes and feeling what they feel is empathy. You either are one way or the other, and it comes from childhood.

There's a huge difference between feeling empathy or sympathy for say the parents of those girls killed by the US in Iran and the pathetic, sycophantic, ridiculous outpouring of grief for some dizzy bint like "Lady" Di.

5 hours ago, MIke B Bad said:

There's a huge difference between feeling empathy or sympathy for say the parents of those girls killed by the US in Iran and the pathetic, sycophantic, ridiculous outpouring of grief for some dizzy bint like "Lady" Di.

People feel empathy or sympathy for others because this is what they learned from their parents in childhood. if they weren't taught or learned by watching, they'll not have it, unless it's learned outside the home, but the home from 0-17 years old is where almost all of care is learned for others. You either have it or you don't, and it isn't just for certain people but for all others who are going through hard times or suffered a loss. I've always felt bad for what the Jews went through in World War 2, to this day, and I wasn't yet born when it happened but learned about if afterwards.

21 hours ago, KhunLA said:

That didn't take long, and Trump enters another thread, not about him, within the first page.

Another Trump bashing thread in the making. Well done

Unless one is living under a rock, or a shepherd in Outer Mongolia, the actions of Trump are affecting everyone on the planet.

It doesn't take an Einstein to understand those actions are doing far more harm than good.

14 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

Is that why you volunteer others to die?

Where did I say that?

On 3/19/2026 at 1:59 PM, unblocktheplanet said:

“He who takes a life has destroyed a whole world.”

A lot of people are not that healthy psychologically.

They cause problems for people around them, whatever they can get away with.

Some people are very sick and commit murder.

But if a psychologically unhealthy person gets into power, the problems are amplified.

So not everyone cares about peace or thinking about the consequences of war.

Their minds are too screwed up.

Some people want to join wars. It's license to act out badly.

Pat yourself on the back if you are not screwed up, though.

18 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Had it in the Vietnam peace and antidraft movement (US), the antilogging movement (Canada). I have been arrested dozens of times for protests and served a fair amount in prison for it.

In Thailand, I co-founded both Freedom Against Censorship (FACT) and the Nonviolent Conflict Workshop. It doesn't require any kind of joining. All it requires is speaking out.

So, in other word we have just another activist on our hands. You seem to be proud of your prison time as well. Seems a bit deluded to me, but all to their own. Good luck, and please stay out of prison.

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2 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

So, in other word we have just another activist on our hands. You seem to be proud of your prison time as well. Seems a bit deluded to me, but all to their own. Good luck, and please stay out of prison.

Just an activist. Yes, I am. Every day I spent in prison for demonstrations galvanised public sentiment, both for and against. Just like this forum, creating dialogue. I guess I'll stay out of prison until Thailand builds a nuke plant.

Just watched video by an Israeli guy, so he may be biased.

He claims Israelis did not steal any land. In the Israeli declaration of independence, it states "we extend a hand of peace to our neighbors". But the Hamas charter states Israel must be obliterated.

So yes, that is precisely what the Israelis believe - kill or be obliterated and wiped off the map.

This is a quote from Golda Meir:

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On 3/20/2026 at 9:33 AM, kingstonkid said:

Your philosophy is skewered by one thing. Mankind

As long as man survives there will be war.

Even the animal kingdom is against you. How does nature left alone keep things in check. Animals kill other animals. Plants kill other plants.

So killing is just nature's way of keeping the status quo.

As to the death penalty I would rather have pedo left in open custody it would be worse than death.

You leave out aspiration. Can't we aspire to be better, in our own circle of friends, in our communities. That's where the seeds of enmity and war are planted and flourish. Everyone has a duty to raise their voice against war in any way their can.

You must know full well animals kills other animals to eat. How many Iranians does it take to feed Israel?

Status quo rings hollow to me. Same-old, same-old. Is that the kind of world you want? If not for you, for the next generations?

1 hour ago, unblocktheplanet said:

You leave out aspiration. Can't we aspire to be better, in our own circle of friends, in our communities. That's where the seeds of enmity and war are planted and flourish. Everyone has a duty to raise their voice against war in any way their can.

You must know full well animals kills other animals to eat. How many Iranians does it take to feed Israel?

Status quo rings hollow to me. Same-old, same-old. Is that the kind of world you want? If not for you, for the next generations?

It is the nature of beasts to want to enlarge or remove threats. You can sing Kumbaya and wear out the prayer beads, but there will always be someone who wants to be bigger or who does not like what a country or area has. You also will have people who are designed faulty that have no joy of life Who are psycho path.

On 3/19/2026 at 3:34 PM, unblocktheplanet said:

Nope. All life is sacred, whether you're religious or not. Even Donnie & Bibi. Even the worst possible murderers. How can the rest of us sit in judgment? Are we free of "sin"? Not me, Baby!

Actually, I interpret the world and all life on it as sacred. If we fail to recognise this dependence on the web of life, we're goners. It will be a beautiful world, with us.

You kill to eat, or someone does your killing for you. Either way, your survival depends on other lives you pretend you hold sacred.

Hypocrite

My wife is very Buddhist she respects all forms of life even rodents and insects and will not kill anything.

UNTILL they come inside HER house/garden. The outcomes the shoe/spray/trap.

32 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

My wife is very Buddhist she respects all forms of life even rodents and insects and will not kill anything.

There were thousands of ants in my kitchen.

If I didn't take them out, they would take over the joint.

I learned that ants only live 21 days, so I don't feel so bad.

Anyway, rodents and insects are constantly being killed, even growing vegetables.

So even vegetarians are not off the hook.

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1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

You kill to eat, or someone does your killing for you. Either way, your survival depends on other lives you pretend you hold sacred.

Hypocrite

Not me. Lifelong vegetarian. Only kill plants & forage.

1 minute ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Not me. Lifelong vegetarian. Only kill plants & forage.

You said all life is sacred, but clearly you feel some life, yours for example, is more sacred than others.

Every time someone does something for you, you are consuming some of their life, to benefit yourself. g

You brag about the young women you use, and every time, you consume a piece of their life they will never get back.

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Used, for better or worse. At least I had a vesectomy.

4 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Used, for better or worse. At least I had a vesectomy.

So apparently all life is not sacred.

6 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Not me. Lifelong vegetarian. Only kill plants & forage.

but if vegan was so "normal", they wouldn't need to create an entire industry around fake lab meats.

4 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Used, for better or worse. At least I had a vesectomy.

Yes, please do us all a favor and stop procreating.

He has longer lectures if you want to look them up.

But I am posting this one because it's only 2 minutes.

It may sound like madness, but realistically no activist or anyone else, neither Jesus nor Buddha nor Allah, has figured out how to get rid of evil in the world.

Alan Watts - Bad and Good are doing a dance and need to co-exist

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3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

but if vegan was so "normal", they wouldn't need to create an entire industry around fake lab meats.

Those must be for wannabes. Have tried some. Lotsa saly & heavily processed.

Even Burger King has veggie burgers and paneer burgers!

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