1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

You are either ignorant or pretending to be.

The powers that be have deliberately blurred the lines in order to keep people from criticizing Israel's policies. There is no clear distinction between criticism of Israel and antiemitism. It's done deliberately to silence people.

Who are those "The powers that be" and where, on what platforms can you not criticise Israel ?

Who has been silenced ?

29 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Who are those "The powers that be" and where, on what platforms can you not criticise Israel ?

Who has been silenced ?

Many individuals hesitate to voice their concerns about Israel in 2026 due to fear.

30 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Who are those "The powers that be" and where, on what platforms can you not criticise Israel ?

Who has been silenced ?

I wouldnt try it with my facebook account.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/11/facebook-might-censor-criticism-of-zionists-thats-dangerous

The Israeli government and its rightwing allies are using this moment to double down on their campaign to equate all forms of anti-Zionism – the moral, political or religiously based opposition to an ethnic Jewish nation-state in historic Palestine – with antisemitism. This is not a sincere attempt to end anti-Jewish bigotry and violence. It is a breathtakingly cynical gambit to limit our ability to hold Israel accountable for its ongoing human rights abuses against Palestinians. And Facebook might take the bait.

In response to pressure from the Israeli government and its supporters, Facebook is currently reaching out to stakeholders to ask if criticizing Zionists falls within the rubric of hate speech per Facebook’s community standards. In particular, Facebook is weighing whether “Zionist” should be considered a proxy for “Jew” or “Israeli”.

It is of extreme importance to differentiate between people protesting against Israel's approach to this war in Gaza, and antisemitism. They are two completely different things, however Israel is an extremely thin skinned nation, and very intolerant of any sort of criticism. As a Jew I know that many Jews are thin-skinned when it comes to any sort of criticism of Israel, and it's often interpreted as being anti-semitic.

I've been called a Jew hater for criticizing Israeli policy so I know how sensitive the issue can be, and it's very important to interpret it correctly. Jews and all people have the right to be critical of Israeli policy, especially now that the extremists have taken over, gotten the support of a hateful PM, and are engaging in what could be called a ridiculously disproportionate campaign against the Gazans. And now Lebanon and Iran. Israel are warmonges. Period. Many call it genocide. And it would appear as though their goal is in trying to erase the Palestinian population.

Israel must be very careful at this point as they are losing support around the world, by the day it's gotten to the point where there are very few nations who are still supportive of Israel, and the IDF. If the US withdrew it's support, it would put them in dire straits, and very isolated. And we might be looking at a failed state. They deserve that, in my opinion. I believe all the lessons of the Holocaust have been forgotten within the current very sad state of affairs in Israel.

Am I a Jew hater? Absolutely not, as I have many Jewish friends and family that I adore. Do I hate Israel? Certainly not the people, but I do hate the current Israeli government. Much as I hate the current American government, it doesn't make me an America hater, though the fake patriots on this forum would argue otherwise.

3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

You are either ignorant or pretending to be.

The powers that be have deliberately blurred the lines in order to keep people from criticizing Israel's policies. There is no clear distinction between criticism of Israel and antiemitism. It's done deliberately to silence people.

100%

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Am I a Jew hater? Absolutely not, as I have many Jewish friends and family that I adore. Do I hate Israel? Certainly not the people, but I do hate the current Israeli government. Much as I hate the current American government, it doesn't make me an America hater, though the fake patriots on this forum would argue otherwise.

Great post.

Similar to me, many Jewish friends and as couple in family.

One difference is that one could argue that Netanyahu and his extremist government are a reflection of Israel society. Actually, there are statistics proving this that I could find later.

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The accusations of genocide are leveled against the Israeli state, of which the IDF is a military agent, the IDF are enacting the genocidal policies of the Israeli state.

Under international law those aiding and abetting war crimes and crimes against humanity are also legally guilty of such. There are international warrants out for the arrest of the IDF's 2 leaders (at the time) on those two charges. If they are guilty of such, legally so are the IDF members that carried out the orders, and/or aided and abetted the committing of such.

5 hours ago, save the frogs said:

I wouldnt try it with my facebook account.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/11/facebook-might-censor-criticism-of-zionists-thats-dangerous

The Israeli government and its rightwing allies are using this moment to double down on their campaign to equate all forms of anti-Zionism – the moral, political or religiously based opposition to an ethnic Jewish nation-state in historic Palestine – with antisemitism. This is not a sincere attempt to end anti-Jewish bigotry and violence. It is a breathtakingly cynical gambit to limit our ability to hold Israel accountable for its ongoing human rights abuses against Palestinians. And Facebook might take the bait.

In response to pressure from the Israeli government and its supporters, Facebook is currently reaching out to stakeholders to ask if criticizing Zionists falls within the rubric of hate speech per Facebook’s community standards. In particular, Facebook is weighing whether “Zionist” should be considered a proxy for “Jew” or “Israeli”.

An opinion piece from the Guardian from an article from 5 years ago which states of what might happen.

No actual evidence of your claims, then

5 hours ago, nick supreme said:

Many individuals hesitate to voice their concerns about Israel in 2026 due to fear.

who are those individusls who hesitate to voice their opinion ?

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

It is of extreme importance to differentiate between people protesting against Israel's approach to this war in Gaza, and antisemitism. They are two completely different things, however Israel is an extremely thin skinned nation, and very intolerant of any sort of criticism. As a Jew I know that many Jews are thin-skinned when it comes to any sort of criticism of Israel, and it's often interpreted as being anti-semitic.

I've been called a Jew hater for criticizing Israeli policy so I know how sensitive the issue can be, and it's very important to interpret it correctly. Jews and all people have the right to be critical of Israeli policy, especially now that the extremists have taken over, gotten the support of a hateful PM, and are engaging in what could be called a ridiculously disproportionate campaign against the Gazans. And now Lebanon and Iran. Israel are warmonges. Period. Many call it genocide. And it would appear as though their goal is in trying to erase the Palestinian population.

Israel must be very careful at this point as they are losing support around the world, by the day it's gotten to the point where there are very few nations who are still supportive of Israel, and the IDF. If the US withdrew it's support, it would put them in dire straits, and very isolated. And we might be looking at a failed state. They deserve that, in my opinion. I believe all the lessons of the Holocaust have been forgotten within the current very sad state of affairs in Israel.

Am I a Jew hater? Absolutely not, as I have many Jewish friends and family that I adore. Do I hate Israel? Certainly not the people, but I do hate the current Israeli government. Much as I hate the current American government, it doesn't make me an America hater, though the fake patriots on this forum would argue otherwise.

Have you yourself stopped being a Jew ?

17 hours ago, ukrules said:

So who exactly are these anti semites and what is their motivation?

Who exactly are the Semites and why does Judaism think it is only them and that they can hijack/monopolize the terminology?

12 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

Who exactly are the Semites and why does Judaism think it is only them and that they can hijack/monopolize the terminology?

It's idiotic troll posts such as above that is the reason that I favor everyone on the forum to start saying JEW HATERS, etc. instead of antisemitism.

34 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

Who exactly are the Semites and why does Judaism think it is only them and that they can hijack/monopolize the terminology?

This has been explained a half-dozen times before, but I am happy to do it again.

Bottomline: The use of the word "Semite" to refer to an imaginary ethnic group that included both Jews and Arabs is outdated. 

The Encyclopedia Britannica explains it this way (my bold text):  "Semite, obsolete term, popularized in the 19th century, that originally described a member of any people who speak one of the Semitic languages, a family of languages that includes Arabic, Hebrew, Amharic, Aramaic, and Tigrinya, among others. The term was later used in an ethnic sense, even though there has never been a shared Semitic identity among Semitic-speaking peoples. When used in that sense, Semite often referred specifically to people of Jewish origin, regardless of what language they spoke, a reflection of the antisemitism that was concurrent in 19th-century Europe."  https://www.britannica.com/topic/Semite

 

"Antisemitism" has in the English language only ever referred to a hatred of Jews and never to a hatred of Arabs or other ethnic groups.

The word "anti-Semitism" or "antisemitism" entered the English language in1881 from the German Antisemitismus, which had been coined by Wilhelm Marr, a German journalist and agitator who thought it sounded more scientific and academic than the older Judenhaß  ("Jew hatred").  Marr himself is regarded as the "father of modern antisemitism,"  although he apparently renounced his anti-Jewish beliefs as an old man.  https://njop.org/the-origin-of-word-anti-semitism/

A book has been written about him, published by no less than the Oxford University Press.

https://www.amazon.com/Wilhelm-Marr-Patriarch-Anti-Semitism-Studies/dp/0195040058

Vad Vashem, the World Holocaust Remembrance Center, has issued this brief video on Marr and the origin of the word "antisemitism."

14 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Does that apply to other religions or only Jews? Are Buddhists in Japan or the U.S. responsible for the actions of the Thai military forces? Are all Muslims responsible for the actions of the Iranian armed forces?

Nothing the same. Thailand is not a country established only for Buddhists. There are not roads that Muslims can't use or discrimination against them. Also they are Theravada, which here is a mix of Hinduism, Buddhism, Animism and Fetishism. Japan are more Zen, Nicheren and other sects.

Surely you know about the Israel lobby in the USA and that many Jews donate to Israel, get Israeli citizenship and have family ties there. Totally flawed comparison.

4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Have you yourself stopped being a Jew ?

Culturally I am still Jewish but I do not practice Judaism. I haven't since I was 13 when my Rabbi could not explain very basic spiritual truths to me. I told my dad at that point that once I had my bar mitzvah I would no longer consider myself a Jew and he was okay with that. I practice a more wide-ranging universal form of spirituality, that incorporates various elements of Buddhism, Hinduism and Christianity.

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Culturally I am still Jewish but I do not practice Judaism. I haven't since I was 13 when my Rabbi could not explain very basic spiritual truths to me. I told my dad at that point that once I had my bar mitzvah I would no longer consider myself a Jew and he was okay with that. I practice a more wide-ranging universal form of spirituality, that incorporates various elements of Buddhism, Hinduism and Christianity.

You really should stop stating that you are Jewish then .

3 minutes ago, Packer said:

Good for you, Mike.

Being able to leave a cult that teaches crazy stories as truth and considers themselves as unique and special is definitely worth doing. 🙂

Easter soon .

The story about the guy whose mum was a virgin , who comes back to life again in cave after being dead for three days .

Happy Easter

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You really should stop stating that you are Jewish then .

There are two levels. Practicing Judaism and being a Jewish person.

That about the tribal matrilineal nature of the Jewish people.

Assuming he has a Jewish mother, he is still a Jewish person whether he practices Judaism, identifies as such or not.

Worshipping in another faith, however, makes him ineligible for Israel right of return immigration, which I assume is seen as a feature, not a bug.

Clarifying the roads rules on the west bank:

There are no anti-Arab 'apartheid' roads in the West Bank - opinion | The Jerusalem Post

www.jpost.com/opinion/article-756764

There are no anti-Arab 'apartheid' roads in the West Bank - opinion

Arabs of Judea and Samaria can use all the roads, including those in Area C, but for Jewish Israelis, entry into Area A constitutes a criminal offense.

14 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

There are two levels. Practicing Judaism and being a Jewish person.

That about the tribal matrilineal nature of the Jewish people.

Assuming he has a Jewish mother, he is still a Jewish person whether he practices Judaism, identifies as such or not.

Worshipping in another faith, however, makes him ineligible for Israel right of return immigration, which I assume is seen as a feature, not a bug.

So, its quite similar to the Hotel California then ?

30 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You really should stop stating that you are Jewish then .

Telling people what they should or shouldn't do. A common trait of both the Jewry and the fake trolls pretending to be Jews. Both being very strange peoples. 🙂

3 minutes ago, Packer said:

Telling people what they should or shouldn't do. A common trait of both the Jewry and the fake trolls pretending to be Jews. Both being very strange peoples. 🙂

So, you are telling me that I shouldn't do it ?

Are you outing yourself as being a Jew ?

29 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

So, you are telling me that I shouldn't do it ?

If I was to tell you anything, it would be to finish primary school, something that your literacy skills hint at you having yet to achieve. 🙂

Israeli tourist apparently got heckled and kicked out of a coffee shop in Italy.

4 minutes ago, Packer said:

If I was to tell you anything, it would be to finish primary school, something that your literacy skills hint at you having yet to achieve. 🙂

You are the wrong person to be criticising others posters intelligence levels . You don't come across as being highly intelligent yourself .

You are in the same bottom tier level as me and Malcom and Georgegina

11 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

It is of extreme importance to differentiate between people protesting against Israel's approach to this war in Gaza, and antisemitism. They are two completely different things, however Israel is an extremely thin skinned nation, and very intolerant of any sort of criticism. As a Jew I know that many Jews are thin-skinned when it comes to any sort of criticism of Israel, and it's often interpreted as being anti-semitic.

I've been called a Jew hater for criticizing Israeli policy so I know how sensitive the issue can be, and it's very important to interpret it correctly. Jews and all people have the right to be critical of Israeli policy, especially now that the extremists have taken over, gotten the support of a hateful PM, and are engaging in what could be called a ridiculously disproportionate campaign against the Gazans. And now Lebanon and Iran. Israel are warmonges. Period. Many call it genocide. And it would appear as though their goal is in trying to erase the Palestinian population.

Israel must be very careful at this point as they are losing support around the world, by the day it's gotten to the point where there are very few nations who are still supportive of Israel, and the IDF. If the US withdrew it's support, it would put them in dire straits, and very isolated. And we might be looking at a failed state. They deserve that, in my opinion. I believe all the lessons of the Holocaust have been forgotten within the current very sad state of affairs in Israel.

Am I a Jew hater? Absolutely not, as I have many Jewish friends and family that I adore. Do I hate Israel? Certainly not the people, but I do hate the current Israeli government. Much as I hate the current American government, it doesn't make me an America hater, though the fake patriots on this forum would argue otherwise.

I can't like this post enough but thugs like Yagoda and his ilk will be along to call you 'kapo'. They cheapen themselves for no good reason - because they have 'no good reason'.

reported post removed.

People are free to hold their own views. On this forum, they’re expected to express them within the rules.

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You really should stop stating that you are Jewish then .

Well thanks for the advice, it really means a lot coming from you. I was always taught that the should word should be used quite carefully. But, thanks Dad.

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

Israeli tourist apparently got heckled and kicked out of a coffee shop in Italy.

Not because he was Israeli. Because he was demanding a 70% discount. 😁

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Culturally I am still Jewish but I do not practice Judaism. I haven't since I was 13 when my Rabbi could not explain very basic spiritual truths to me. I told my dad at that point that once I had my bar mitzvah I would no longer consider myself a Jew and he was okay with that. I practice a more wide-ranging universal form of spirituality, that incorporates various elements of Buddhism, Hinduism and Christianity.

It's interesting how many guys that I've know (friends and acquaintances) who were born into Jewish families end up gravitating to one form of Buddhism or another. It shows a strong sense of spirituality from within the family which isn't satisfied though Talmudic dogma. Of course, the same applies to many guys who came from Christian and secular families as well. Then you have those who gain a bit of fame as writers and teachers within the Buddhist community as well: Stephan Levin, Allen Ginsberg, Jack Kornfeld, Joseph Goldstein, Lama Surya Das, Leonard Cohen, and Ram Dass to mention a few.