12 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

And with regard to her husband, "friends" mean they're non-existent.

people are nervous. their reputations may be damaged just for knowing the guy.

doesn't necessarily make them guilty of anything.

we need a court of law, not gossip.

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

people are nervous. their reputations may be damaged just for knowing the guy.

doesn't necessarily make them guilty of anything.

we need a court of law, not gossip.

For decades Trump has been running rings around enemies, both real and imagined, by resorting to the law courts. He's even partially stuffed the SCOTUS with his sycophants.

Only public opinion, overwhelmingly negative public opinion will prevail. By Trump's own modus operandi, if you repeat the lies and the gossip long enough, it becomes the truth.

5 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

By Trump's own modus operandi, if you repeat the lies and the gossip long enough, it becomes the truth.

So you want to play in the mud?

2 hours ago, Mavideol said:

maybe this will help you understand the all relationship between the parties involved, if she didn't know them why they spend Xmas and Bdays together, feel free to read and look at all the photos, that should do it

For a while, Ungaro and her then-boyfriend, businessman Paolo Zampolli, were close to Trump and Melania, regularly dining with them at the president’s Palm Beach resort.

From posing with the first couple and dining with them at Mar-a-Lago in Trump’s first administration, Ungaro claims she was deported back to Brazil by the president’s ICE agents last year after he came back to power a second time.

The Man Who Links Melania Directly to Epstein

https://au.yahoo.com/news/man-links-melania-directly-epstein-220655135.html

The Strange Case of Melania and the Model Deported by ICE

https://au.yahoo.com/news/strange-case-melania-model-deported-222243605.html

Here's a tidbit from the NY Times

"Early Thursday just after midnight, Ungaro, clearly upset that Melania didn’t help her in the ICE deportation, posted threatening messages directed at her on X. One now-deleted post read: “I have nothing left to lose in my life. I will tear down the entire system — be careful with me bitch.” In another, she said: “Maybe you should be afraid of what I know … of who you are, and who your husband is.”

Melania’s statement came later that day, but who knows if there’s any connection?"

https://archive.ph/Zkd3M#selection-1001.0-1005.81

16 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

So you want to play in the mud?

If you need to wrestle with a pig...

5 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

If you need to wrestle with a pig...

Good luck taking Melania down.

Maybe the next first lady will have a higher IQ and make herself more useful.

2 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

They are suing Michael Wolff for $1 billion over similar "revelations" .

No, she is not. She threatened Michael Wolff with a lawsuit and to her surprise Wolff called her bluff and filed an Anti-SLAPP suit to defend his first amendment rights. This terrified her as she may have to testify under oath and she has been hiding from Wolff ever since refusing to accept service and trying to get the case moved to a Florida federal court.

42 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

If you need to wrestle with a pig...

Personally, I think you're confused.

Trump and Melania are the ones who will be meting out karmic justice in this Epstein case, not you and your Trump hating pals. Trump wouldn't be getting Melania to make the victims testify in front of congress if he was involved.

She said "testify or STFU" .... so some of the victims may be falsely accusing ... and Melania's got nothing to worry about.

But best of luck. We'll check back in in a while to compare notes.

Melania, if you're reading this, you're hot and keep up the good work.

You gotta love this one. Melania sabotaged her husband. Don thought this Jeff nightmare was disappearing, only to have his wife light it on fire again. Way to go Mel.

President Trump is desperately trying to move on from his ruinous war in Iran. But there was no way he expected to be moving on — or moving back — to the Epstein files. Thanks, Melania.

The world gasped when the first lady emerged from the mists on Thursday to give a statement that ended up yanking America’s eyeballs back to Jeffrey Epstein.

After firing the prevaricating Pam Bondi and threatening on Easter that the Iranians might soon be “living in Hell,” the president surely thought he was finally wriggling away from the sordid, sticky pedophile scandal.

For mysterious reasons, the Slovenian Sphinx stunned the West Wing, walking into the grand entrance hall of the White House to dump kerosene on the flickering Epstein fire.

In effect, Melania’s dramatic message was: Hey, guys, we’re not done here yet. Everybody come look at what my husband so terribly doesn’t want you to look at!

No one, not even Trump’s inner circle, seemed to know that this bizarre monologue was coming or what was driving it.

Gobsmacked aides scrambled to answer reporters’ questions about what the president knew and when he knew it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/11/opinion/melania-trump-epstein-statement.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

Just to summarize, it may turn out everything Ms. Trump said about her relation with Epstein is true -- per the hot Brazilian, it may turn out her relation to Zampolli is the problem.

18 hours ago, save the frogs said:

probably most people who associated with epstein are not guilty of anything.

he infiltrated elite circles, but they were actually leading normal lives, going to galas, normal stuff elites do. only a small subset was involved in the criminal stuff.

if he didn't lead a mostly normal life, everyone would be too suspicious of him. So I'm guessing 90% of the time he was just going to normal parties, business meetings, whatever.

Not everyone is bent and has criminal proclivities. He probably had to sniff those people out over an extended time and lure them somehow, but without all the other people catching on.

I'm guessing anyway ...

now everyone is afraid of being found guilty by association and regrets mingling with him ... but doesn't mean they're guilty. they might just be afraid of being smeared.

the question is/was as she claimed she did not knew them..."did she knew them yes or no" no maybe and deflecting answers accepted,

On 4/11/2026 at 2:56 PM, save the frogs said:

She said "testify or STFU" .... so some of the victims may be falsely accusing ... and Melania's got nothing to worry about.

And yet Melania is the one who has been hiding for 7 months refusing to testify, refusing to give a deposition and even refusing to accept service.

She and her husband are using high office to suppress the truth and rewrite their pasts with a heavy dose of whitewashing.

Melania must testify under oath.

On 4/11/2026 at 11:21 AM, spidermike007 said:

You are absolutely incorrect, forum rules do not require us to provide a source for our own personal opinions, and most posts on here are based on personal opinions, that's what these dialogues are all about.

Get with the program please. Or prove to us otherwise, show us why and how this lightweight first lady is relevant on any level. She is not.

You stated it as "Fact" as you are inclined to do often. You know that though.

2 hours ago, Slowhand225 said:

You stated it as "Fact" as you are inclined to do often. You know that though.

When looking at this forum, or YouTube or Tiktok, or Facebook or any other form of social media, one has to always know that nearly everything that's being stated is opinion, and very rarely should anything be considered a fact, so the fact part is just your silly presumption. I rarely stayed that something that I'm saying is an absolute fact, it's always just my opinion. And it's unnecessary to state that caveat every time.