Sanctioned tanker passes through the Straits without challenge

https://www.lloydslist.com/LL1156893/Sanctioned-Chinese-tanker-tests-US-Hormuz-blockade

A poor choice of words from Veep

What they have done is engage in this act of economic terrorism against the entire world....... As the President showed, two can play at that game

23 minutes ago, Roadsternut said:

Iran's biggest martime trading partner is the UAE, so I suppose the Americans will be intercepting loads of dhows smuggling over 10 year old ex-US market Tacomas etc.

The Gulf Coalition of the Willing has barely lasted 48 hours. Saudi Arabia is calling for an end to the blockade of Iranian shipping.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-us-strait-of-hormuz-blockade-25fbd430?st=Dv4C8d

I thought it was the Coalition of Get Us The Hell Out This Mess You've Created.

From elsewhere:

Kennedy prevented World War 3 by blockading Russian ships carrying nuclear missiles to Cuba. It was a very close run thing. Is Trump going to start World War 3 by blockading Chinese ships laden with barbecues, fairy lights, garden furniture, knock off designer jeans and all the other consumer tat

On 4/12/2026 at 3:01 PM, jts-khorat said:

At the moment it is anybodies guess how crazy he really is -- and how strongly he needs to bury the Melania-Epstein-related news.

I expect some more prolonged bombing and killing of civilians, because that is the modus operandi of the USA in every single conflict they have started since World War II (and those were many!).

Actually, the USA itself is built on genocide and stolen land, so this pattern of pure evil repeats since its existence.

The USA has its faults, but it is far down on the scale compared to European nations. Take Germany for example. it's brutal colonial exploits in Burundi, Rwanda, Tanzania), Namibia, Cameroon, Gabon, Congo, Central African Republic, Chad and NigeriaTogo and Ghana, resulted in millions of dead and starving Africans. It destroyed the culture of Papua New Guinea and tried to do similar in Samoa. It left a terrible footprint in China. Tell you what, you concentrate on repairing the legacy of destruction that Germany left in Africa and then come and complain about the Americans, who's wrongful acts are offset by the legacy of good actions it has done. It was the USA that funded the HIV and malaria programs in Africa, not Germany. It was the USA that led the way on reducing the damage caused by tobacco, while Germany, one of the world's largest exporters of cancer aka tobacco has continued to push its product. We are in the mess we are in Iran in part because Germany allowed the sale of biochemical weapon precursors to Iran. it was Germany that facilitated the nuclear weapons of iran. And it is Germany which has been a lifeline to the. despotic regime with its ongoing trade.

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

The Chinese can choke off rare earth supply to the USA any time they want, and there's not a damn thing America can do about it.

The only good thing about this blockade is it will have Americans feeling the same pain of economic recession as everyone else, which should translate into mid-term voting.

The USA has "rare" earth. However, the USA was not willing to accept the environmental damage or able to refine at the low labour cost of China. If a true shortage arises, the USA can go back to producing. As of now, the USA is content to let the Chinese poison its people and to create generations of genetically damaged people.

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

I thought it was the Coalition of Get Us The Hell Out This Mess You've Created.

Coming soon to ITV1.

53 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

The USA has "rare" earth. However, the USA was not willing to accept the environmental damage or able to refine at the low labour cost of China. If a true shortage arises, the USA can go back to producing. As of now, the USA is content to let the Chinese poison its people and to create generations of genetically damaged people.

The 🇺🇸 also controls the vast majority of quality quartz.

50 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

The USA has "rare" earth. However, the USA was not willing to accept the environmental damage or able to refine at the low labour cost of China. If a true shortage arises, the USA can go back to producing. As of now, the USA is content to let the Chinese poison its people and to create generations of genetically damaged people.

Jeez you're really going the extra mile to show what a clown you are.

You think those miners are all on standby for the sign to start mining, then go through several complicated processes, and it will be ready for consumption in a fortnight?

49 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

The USA has "rare" earth. However, the USA was not willing to accept the environmental damage or able to refine at the low labour cost of China. If a true shortage arises, the USA can go back to producing. As of now, the USA is content to let the Chinese poison its people and to create generations of genetically damaged people.

How do EPA Superfund sites protect American people? They tend to be incredibly contaminated industrial sites, locked up, and left to leach away. I used to drive past every day such a site, an old Napalm plant in Alabama. The local authorities could do nothing, as the EPA had taken it over. The EPA's plan for remediation was to close up the doors, and forget about it. It was still leaching into the surrounding wetlands, carcinogens then entering the Gulf of Mexico/America, and thus the commercial fisheries. The major source of rare earths in the US is mine tailings. The reason they are not mined is purely economic, not because of environmental concerns (the US has a poor track record in protecting the environment and the civil population; their are dozens of towns across America abandoned due to pollutants entering the water supply). The major source of PCBs in the Gulf are paper mills in Florida. The paper mills continue to blame sports fisherman outboard motors as being the main source. The US is fairly content about producing generations of genetically damaged people who's only recourse is through ruinously expensive litigation.

You could also add that the US currently is quite content doing business with child rapists and war criminals, given they want to buy rare earths from the Russians. Imagine that attitude in 1942. No wonder that was called the Greatest Generation. What epitaph will the Baby Boomers be renamed with after they are all dead and buried. Likely nothing good. All that hope; they were called baby boomers as the first post WW2 generation, because they were going to be the generation who made sure fascism never rose again. Now they, in your words, are happy for cancer to happen if it means a fast buck or material advantage. Its baby boomers making all the decisions right now. You write that as if it was a good thing to brag about, rather than what it is, a shameful set of affairs.

8 minutes ago, blaze master said:

The 🇺🇸 also controls the vast majority of quality quartz.

Only that quartz is not a rare earth, but a mineral available about everywhere in the world

1 minute ago, CallumWK said:

Only that quartz is not a rare earth, but a mineral available about everywhere in the world

The quartz im talking about is vital for many military and technological products. The low grade quartz you are talking about isn't. Do some reading first.

11 minutes ago, blaze master said:

The 🇺🇸 also controls the vast majority of quality quartz.

So this is a penis measuring contest?

US doesn't control Lithium

US doesn't control Cobalt

US doesn't control Nickel

US doesn't control Gallium

US doesn't supply Germanium

US doesn't control Titanium

US doesn't control Tungsten

US doesn't control Antimony

US doesn't control Manganese

US doesn't control Platininum.

You post indicates you are happy if the US holds the world to ransom over mantlepiece decoration (and some industrial applications), ie. play the economic terrorist. Controls implies an intent to deny, to deny a mineral that is a component used in medical optics to diagnose cancer, used as an anti caking agent in vital drugs to stop small children in the developing world dying of some hideous disease, used as a basis for dental filing by billions, and in controlling the outbreak of the next pandemic in a hospital. You could have said "most of the mine-able quartz is in the US", but you used "control", implying you are in favour of denying access to healthcare as a way to further US interests.

I'm not in favour of any country "controlling" anything, if that control is intended to cause harm. You are literally proposing econimic terrorism, and pretending thats different from some loser blowing himself up on a bus,

5 minutes ago, blaze master said:

The quartz im talking about is vital for many military and technological products. The low grade quartz you are talking about isn't. Do some reading first.

Maybe you should do some reading, because we were talking about rare earths, for which the US depends mainly on China. I doubt they depend on any quartz from China.

Great deflection, but no cigar for you.

1 minute ago, CallumWK said:

Maybe you should do some reading, because we were talking about rare earths, for which the US depends mainly on China. I doubt they depend on any quartz from China.

Great deflection, but no cigar for you.

Go be confused somewhere else. Bye.

4 minutes ago, Roadsternut said:

So this is a penis measuring contest?

US doesn't control Lithium

US doesn't control Cobalt

US doesn't control Nickel

US doesn't control Gallium

US doesn't supply Germanium

US doesn't control Titanium

US doesn't control Tungsten

US doesn't control Antimony

US doesn't control Manganese

US doesn't control Platininum.

You post indicates you are happy if the US holds the world to ransom over mantlepiece decoration (and some industrial applications), ie. play the economic terrorist. Controls implies an intent to deny, to deny a mineral that is a component used in medical optics to diagnose cancer, used as an anti caking agent in vital drugs to stop small children in the developing world dying of some hideous disease, used as a basis for dental filing by billions, and in controlling the outbreak of the next pandemic in a hospital. You could have said "most of the mine-able quartz is in the US", but you used "control", implying you are in favour of denying access to healthcare as a way to further US interests.

I'm not in favour of any country "controlling" anything, if that control is intended to cause harm. You are literally proposing econimic terrorism, and pretending thats different from some loser blowing himself up on a bus,

You can go ahead and make all the assumptions you want...no matter how wrong they may be. Point is they need each other.

I notice posters like you don't froth when people talk about China controlling rare earth minerals.

3 minutes ago, blaze master said:

You can go ahead and make all the assumptions you want...no matter how wrong they may be. Point is they need each other.

I notice posters like you don't froth when people talk about China controlling rare earth.

https://english.news.cn/20250410/fe7a365bf10748a298515222bca927ec/c.html

BEIJING, April 10 (Xinhua) -- High-purity quartz has officially become China's 174th mineral type, as multiple ore deposits have been discovered in the country, the Ministry of Natural Resources announced on Thursday.

Featuring high-temperature resistance, corrosion resistance, low thermal expansion, high insulation, and light transmittance, high-purity quartz refers to rocks that can be processed and purified to obtain silicon dioxide with a purity of no less than 99.995 percent, which can meet the demands of high-tech industries such as semiconductors and photovoltaics, according to Mao Jingwen, an academician of the Chinese Academy of Engineering.

https://interestingengineering.com/science/china-high-purity-quartz-deposit-discovery

China hits 35 million metric ton high-purity quartz jackpot, can reduce its US reliance

The discovery of reserves can help the Asian giant to localize supply for solar and semiconductor production.

China has discovered two high-purity quartz deposits, one near Qinling, Henan province, and the other in Altay, Xinjiang. The State Council has officially designated high-purity quartz (HPQ) China’s 174th newly classified mineral.

Primarily composed of silicon dioxide (SiO2) with a purity exceeding 99.9%, the high-purity quartz is a significant material for high-tech industries.

2 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

The USA has "rare" earth. However, the USA was not willing to accept the environmental damage or able to refine at the low labour cost of China. If a true shortage arises, the USA can go back to producing. As of now, the USA is content to let the Chinese poison its people and to create generations of genetically damaged people.

What a load of crap.

Here we go off Topic as usual. What the <deleted> has quarts or rare minerals got to do with this idiot making a blockade as the title suggests <deleted>.

Still waiting for Yagoda to answer my question of how will America defend the straits.

7 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Still waiting for Yagoda to answer my question of how will America defend the straits.

You are living in LA LA land if you ever expect a strait and accurate answer from that pointless and annoying poster!

he said no ships from Iran ports will be allowed to pass, guess what, the usual lies as BBC Verify, lunch time news, reports 4 ships connected to Iran went thru this morning, so much noise about nothing TACO

I am just waiting for the first foreign naval ship to arrive intending to escort one of their ships, especially a Chinese one!

2 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

The USA has "rare" earth. However, the USA was not willing to accept the environmental damage or able to refine at the low labour cost of China. If a true shortage arises, the USA can go back to producing. As of now, the USA is content to let the Chinese poison its people and to create generations of genetically damaged people.

The lead time for the average mine to come into production is about 5 years. The lead time for refining operations on a commercial scale is 5-10 years.

Before you start mouthing off about China poisoning its people, I suggest you look up Love Canal, PG&E, Woburn, Donora,Parkersburg and the Radium Girls.

3 hours ago, Roadsternut said:

Sanctioned tanker passes through the Straits without challenge

https://www.lloydslist.com/LL1156893/Sanctioned-Chinese-tanker-tests-US-Hormuz-blockade

not one but from BBC Verify 4 of them... such a blockade from the master of the flip flops

On 4/13/2026 at 3:59 AM, shdmn said:

Mar 3: "We won the war."
Mar 7: "We defeated Iran."
Mar 9: "We must attack Iran." "The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully."
Mar 12: "We did win, but we haven't won completely yet."
Mar 13: "We won the war."
Mar 14: "Please help us."
Mar 15: "If you don't help us, I will certainly remember it."
Mar 16: "Actually, we don't need any help at all." "I was just testing to see who's listening to me." "If NATO doesn't help, they will suffer something very bad."
Mar 17: "We neither need nor want NATO's help." "I don't need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO."
Mar 18: "Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz."
Mar 19: "US allies need to get a grip -step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz"
Mar 20: "NATO are cowards."
Mar 21: "We don't use it, we don't need to open it."
Mar 22: "This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours." "Iran is Dead"
Mar 23: "We are giving them more time."
Mar 24: "The war is nearing its end."
Mar 25: "We are still negotiating."
Mar 26: "Iran is begging for peace. They gave us a gift. We will give them more time."
Mar 27: "Talks with iran are going very well"
Mar 28: "War will be over soon"
Mar 29: "Maybe we take Kharg island, maybe we dont"
Mar 30: "Open the Strait or we will obliterate all energy infrastructure and oil wells"
Mar 31: "We dont need the strait, we got plenty of oil. Get it yourself UK."
April 1: "Iran wants a ceasefire" / "Strongly considering pulling out of NATO" / "There's no deal with Iran"
April 3:"We can take their oil and make a fortune"
April 5:"Open the <deleted>in strait you crazy bastards or youll be living in hell"
April 6:"US could charge for strait of hormuz passage"
April 7:"A whole civilization will die tonight"
April 8:"Iran accepts ceasefire, the strait is opened" strait closed
April 9:"NATO allies have days to reopen the strait"
April 10:"Iran has no cards"
April 11:"We're going to open up the strait"
April 12:"US will blockade the strait"

yep, the master of the flip flops, as French President Macron said...don't contradict today what you claimed yesterday

36 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

You are living in LA LA land if you ever expect a strait and accurate answer from that pointless and annoying poster!

Yes i know Scottie he likes dishing it out but can't take it back.

1 minute ago, BarraMarra said:

Yes i know Scottie he likes dishing it out but can't take it back.

I have it on ignore as I see enough of it's garbage through replies to its stupid quoted posts!

I'm beginning think the MAGA's on here, now know what there there leader is trully all about and can't respond anymore trying to praise him Embarrasing realy.

1 minute ago, scottiejohn said:

I have it on ignore as I see enough of it's garbage through replies to its stupid quoted posts!

i just like him trying to appease this idiot to us on here he must feel uncomfortable now his leader has steeped so low to post pics of him as the Messiah and dissing the Pope.