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Thai Tax decision tree

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1 hour ago, LivinLOS said:

LTR specific question

If someone is on the LTR high skilled professional class and gets the preferential income tax rate on Thai domestic income.

They still get zero rated tax on remittance dont they ??

So local income taxed but funds remitted still untaxed as per the other LTR classes ??

Nope RD.743, paragraph 5 doesn't mention LTR/HSP.

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    Why some with exempt income by DTA such as gov't pensions or US social security need to file a Thai tax return if that income is non-assessable income?

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    Is that a problem? I see no point willingly striving to pay tax in Thailand when they clearly tell you they don't want your money (coz of the extra admin burden and headaches you incur them), the only

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7 hours ago, Dan O said:

Perhaps you should wait until Thailand actually writes the regs completely

That won't happen until the Twelfth of Never, I think.

6 hours ago, OJAS said:

That won't happen until the Twelfth of Never, I think.

Exactly my point. Great exercise for someone that has plenty of spare time. Maybe he can combine forces with GG and get an honorary high vis vest and clipboard. Full Regs wont be coming anytime soon.

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12 hours ago, Peter Crow said:

Nope RD.743, paragraph 5 doesn't mention LTR/HSP.


Thats what AI told me but I tend to not trust it for this kind of stuff.

OK so that needs a whole new tree structure, and I also have to remember that LTR-P and LTR-W can both (rarely but possible) have domestic digital work permits too..

Having fun with this but the more you dig the more you find.

1 hour ago, Dan O said:

Exactly my point. Great exercise for someone that has plenty of spare time. Maybe he can combine forces with GG and get an honorary high vis vest and clipboard. Full Regs wont be coming anytime soon.

So you were being sarcastic, then. Well done. clap2

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21 hours ago, treetops said:

Might have known as soon as a tax thread appeared you'd pop up. Please spare us the same old stories you've posted countless times on any semi-related thread.

That's pretty rude. Oldcpu's inputs are well-articulated and seemingly well-researched. That his responses to a newbie duplicate responses to previous newbies -- is the nature of an open forum. That you've memorized all his responses -- sounds like a classic situation for the "ignore" button.

36 minutes ago, JimGant said:

Oldcpu's inputs are well-articulated and seemingly well-researched.

Verbose and long winded would be descriptions more in line from what I've read.

39 minutes ago, JimGant said:

That his responses to a newbie duplicate responses to previous newbies -- is the nature of an open forum. That you've memorized all his responses -- sounds like a classic situation for the "ignore" button.

The fact you've noticed the same indicates its accurate, so I'll use the term blunt rather than rude, but no apologies for telling the blunt truth - it's the nature of an open forum too.

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In an attempt to justify the final output (explain what flags are generating what results) I need to rework the entire question tree.

This now includes gift and inheritance questions (even tho IHT declarations are outside the scope of income tax subs)

I also have worked on the whole LTR options, LTR wealth and pension can both also have a work permit, I believe high skilled doesnt get remittance exemptions (??) and this created a whole lot of new pathways.

I am trying to get it to
Residence test
Domestic sources - employment - passive
Foreign sources (exceptions and outliers)
Gift Inheritance
Crypto
Conclusion and Report.

Halfway there but probably monday before I get real time to work on these

8 hours ago, OJAS said:

So you were being sarcastic, then. Well done. clap2

Factual sarcasm

9 hours ago, LivinLOS said:


Thats what AI told me but I tend to not trust it for this kind of stuff.

OK so that needs a whole new tree structure, and I also have to remember that LTR-P and LTR-W can both (rarely but possible) have domestic digital work permits too..

Having fun with this but the more you dig the more you find.

Maybe this could help: https://ltr.boi.go.th/documents/Royal%20Decree%20issued%20under%20the%20Revenue%20Code%20No.743%20(EN).pdf

  • Ministerial regulation 399 exempts crypto income from taxes until 31st of December 2029 if the gain is in a Thai regulated crypto exchange

  • I also dispute your site's position on this topic "Did you bring into Thailand, or spend in Thailand, any money that was earned during a year in which you were a Thai tax resident (180 days or more)?". It is extremely arguable whether money that was earned when tax resident but not remitted at that time will later on become taxable if you subsequently cease to be a tax resident and at that time remit it.

2 hours ago, Gaccha said:

I also dispute your site's position on this topic "Did you bring into Thailand, or spend in Thailand, any money that was earned during a year in which you were a Thai tax resident (180 days or more)?". It is extremely arguable whether money that was earned when tax resident but not remitted at that time will later on become taxable if you subsequently cease to be a tax resident and at that time remit it.

That comes after having replied "Yes" to the first question: "Did you spend 180 days or more inside Thailand during the calendar year you are assessing?", implying the individual assessing is tax resident.

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OK back on this.. I got caught up with real life nonsense for a bit and work was calling my attention. I made a total mess of it at one point and the codebase got unwieldy and full of broken links and errors. I am not skilled at this without tool help.

I have basically done a full rewrite now, opting for a more logical sequencing of residence, remittance, domestic employment, domestic passive, crypto, gift, inheritance as I think thats the more likely descending order of frequencies for most expats.

Warning screens have been moved to the right place, theres a final 'how this tool reached its conclusion' output hiding at the end to logic check the results. I still have some small refining issues on that screen to manage but its operational as a 0.2 beta.

The tool has become almost too large to test, there are now 2,844,908 complete paths so I made a logic checker tool to run through them all. I am out of time for the day so will do as much manual verification as I can tomorrow afternoon. Please, feel free to tell me where I am wrong, I am sure theres something still to find.

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