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6 hours ago, gargamon said:

People are saying...

They're changing the name of the war from ”Epic Fury” to ”Epic Failure”.

At least when the British name a military operation (Herrick, Telic, Granby, Shader, Toral, Kipion, Gritrock, Black Buck, Corporate) there is no danger of being hoisted by their own petard if things go a bit turbo-like.

I wonder how Project Stargate is getting on?

Trumps 🤡 allies are now Russia ,China ,and Israel , wonder how

long it will take for the next government to return America to be

leader of the Free World again ,

regards worgeordie

45 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

Trumps 🤡 allies are now Russia ,China ,and Israel , wonder how

long it will take for the next government to return America to be

leader of the Free World again ,

regards worgeordie

The US has been an Israeli colony since 1963. Trump initiated their downfall with the Abraham Accords (which he lured them into with the poisoned "gift" of Jerusalem).

This is only until trump is replaced by a sane president so says pundits

Trump is mentally unstable

On 5/8/2026 at 4:52 PM, blaze master said:

65 percent of congress took money from aipac. Biden took over 5mn in his 34 years. Looks like Obama didn't take any but gave billions in military aid. 3bn for foreign military spending which was the largest to date at the time. About 225mn for the iron dome as well.

How much did AIPAC donate?

Now compare it to what the Arabs as a whole have spent.

AIPAC is 100% American. It has 6.5 million+ US citizen members. AIPAC is funded exclusively by Americans.

Are you opposed to Americans participating in the political process? Why is it wrong for AIPAC to undertake political activities, but it is acceptable for the Arab countries to outspend AIPAC, or various unions and political groups to do undertake similar activities, but AIPAC's actions are "wrong"?

The money that the US provided for R&D for Iron Dome has directly benefited the USA. How do you think the Patriot system was developed? The new laser anti drone/missile technology being developed comes courtesy of the Israeli experience. The money spent on military aid for Israel must be spent on US procurement. It is in effect an indirect subsidy to the US defense industry to ensure that its production lines do not remain idol and are available for quick ramp up as we are now seeing with the Iran intervention. If there weren't Israeli procurements, production lines would close in the USA because there would be no need for the products. Skilled labour and production capacity would be lost. That's what happened in Canada and Australia.

''more unpredictable America'' President Trump is as mad and unpredictable as he can be, and don't be surprised

if, at some point, nukes will be introduced into the game when everything else has failed, after all, this is why

countries has nukes, right? not just to scare, because some lunatic regimes just unafraid or just don't care if you hit

them with nukes and loos a million or so casualties, people's lives means nothing to them.

Trump's own former Defense Secretary Gen Mattis (back when the military was ostensibly for defense, not offense) stated just after Trump started the Iran "love tap" (Trump's latest name for his war) that it would be a decade or more, maybe a generation or two, before the US had any chance of rebuilding its position among what are now former allies. Any goodwill the US might have enjoyed since the end of WWII is gone, dead and buried, good for a bit of nostalgia but having nothing to do with the near to medium term future.

Gen Mattis is not a man known for hyperbole.

The world can see that the US electorate has been so dumbed down, and is so ignorant of its own fundamental ideals, that it could elect a corrupt, self-serving clown like Trump twice, even after watching Trump try to overturn the very system he supposedly represents (6 January 2021, plus Trump's various efforts to install fake electors, alter the Georgia votes, etc.). That same electorate, or a majority, even saw that Trump cares so little about the US and US security that he stole boxes of highly classified documents, kept them at a non-secure facility open to anyone willing to pay an entry fee, and even lied about returning them. Add to that the fact Trump has 34 felony convictions for bank and insurance fraud, was convicted of charity fraud (using donations for, inter alia, commissioning a painting of himself), and was civilly convicted of sexual assault.

A nation where a majority would elect such a person has no right to consider itself leader of the free world. New alliances are already forming, in terms of defense and trade, as nobody trusts Trump. No longer can the US make demands on other nations, nor can it expect any help in time of need (as it enjoyed after the 9-11 attacks). The US has lost critical liaison relationships with former allied intelligence services, which makes the US more vulnerable to terror attacks (though the likes of al Qaeda and ISIS are likely just sitting back and watching the US destroy itself). Perhaps something that hasn't been fully appreciated is that the US still needs foreign capital to fund its ever-increasing national debt, now approaching $40,000,000,000,000. Until Trump 2.0, foreign investment accounted for upwards of 25% of US debt financing. If that is replaced by yet more money printing, yesterday's 3.8% announced inflation rate will look like 'the good old days'.

Yes, Republican strategist Rick Wilson was spot on: Everything Trump touches, dies.

The Part Americans Don’t Want to Hear?

Seventy-five million Americans looked at this man — the chaos, the threats, the ignorance — and voted for it. Twice.

Not by accident.

Not unknowingly.

You wanted to “own the libs.”

Instead, you owned American companies out of billions, handed markets to competitors, and convinced allies that dependence on the U.S. is dangerous.

You didn’t stick it to Europe.

Europe walked away.

This Is the Real Cost of Trumpism

Not just rhetoric.

Not just embarrassment.

Structural, long-term economic damage.

France isn’t flipping America off.

It’s doing something far colder and more rational:

Planning for a future without the US? Honestly? Trump didn’t deserve loyalty.

Russia has much to gain from America's invasion of Iran, number one it legitimizes the war in Ukraine, number two it takes attention off the war in Ukraine, and number three it makes a case for strong arm, strong man tactics instead of diplomacy. In addition it gives them a chance to aid Iran, and make things difficult for America, and it has increased their revenue stream dramatically by driving up the price of oil.

China has everything to gain by Trump's War. He continues to push allies away from America and towards China, he continues to make China more influential, and for the first time in my lifetime he is actually making China a moral authority by default. On top of that his tariffs and trade wars have increased and strengthened China's hand around the world, and driven many more Nations into their fold.

In addition the US is aiding both China and Russia by making BRICS more appealing and driving more and more nations towards BRICS. Already there are nearly 30 countries waiting to be accepted, including Thailand.

Even prior to the invasion of Iran I was making a case that Trump's ridiculous and unnecessary trade wars were strengthening China's hands on multiple levels, now he's simply upped the ante and giving them even more influence.

American policy under the goon. Dumb and dumber.