5 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Just kill the poor.

Problem solved!

I will attend your funeral

On 5/27/2026 at 7:41 AM, baansgr said:

I have seen a growing hate towards pensioners from not ony the government but also from those under 50.

How can you begrudge people that have normally worked for 50 years for their pension.

You see it on a daily basis on morning TV or the internet. There are two main gripes, one being the triple lock and secondly they own their own homes.

The triple lock was barely mentioned till 3 or 4 years ago but has been in place since 2011..when pensioners actually received a good increase...this years 4.8% increase for those on the new state pension is only a 1% more increase than those on benefits...hardly an expense and only a fraction of pensioners receive it.

Pensioners are now having to work up to 7 years longer than expected, you really think a 67 year old man can climb ladders, dig roads or do other hard laborious jobs? Wouldn't it be best for them to retire and make way for youngsters, after all they are complaining there is no work?

So, you buy a house do improvements over 40 years and are expected to sell it...why?..I really don't understand the mentality, and before we even go there..my first property in UK was £60,000 in 1990 with interest at 15%...same property now is £220,000 with rates a quarter of that...I worked 2 full time and 1 part time job just to afford the £630 mortgage at the time.

Divorce, death of someone close and moving house are the 3 most stressful things that can happen to someone of age...is their no compassion?

Youngsters forget, they have sick pay, maternity pay, holiday pay, 37 hour working week all of which was fought for by the pensioners they are hating on... it's all wrong

I think it's jealousy, they are just so envious and too lazy to work

Not only in your home country other places too...even Thailand is changing the retirement age from 60 to 65. US has altered their social security over the years too. A natural phenomena IMHO with the aging masses, AI replacements, lower birth rates in developed countries, etc.

On 5/27/2026 at 7:41 AM, baansgr said:

I have seen a growing hate towards pensioners from not ony the government but also from those under 50.

How can you begrudge people that have normally worked for 50 years for their pension.

You see it on a daily basis on morning TV or the internet. There are two main gripes, one being the triple lock and secondly they own their own homes.

The triple lock was barely mentioned till 3 or 4 years ago but has been in place since 2011..when pensioners actually received a good increase...this years 4.8% increase for those on the new state pension is only a 1% more increase than those on benefits...hardly an expense and only a fraction of pensioners receive it.

Pensioners are now having to work up to 7 years longer than expected, you really think a 67 year old man can climb ladders, dig roads or do other hard laborious jobs? Wouldn't it be best for them to retire and make way for youngsters, after all they are complaining there is no work?

So, you buy a house do improvements over 40 years and are expected to sell it...why?..I really don't understand the mentality, and before we even go there..my first property in UK was £60,000 in 1990 with interest at 15%...same property now is £220,000 with rates a quarter of that...I worked 2 full time and 1 part time job just to afford the £630 mortgage at the time.

Divorce, death of someone close and moving house are the 3 most stressful things that can happen to someone of age...is their no compassion?

Youngsters forget, they have sick pay, maternity pay, holiday pay, 37 hour working week all of which was fought for by the pensioners they are hating on... it's all wrong

I think it's jealousy, they are just so envious and too lazy to work

Stop watching cra-p tv talk shows aimed at the terminally stupid, talk to real people and you will see it is not part of reality, I have never had any first hand abuse from younger people.

And if you look at the general news now, the tide has turned, they are now calling the 1.5 million (and growing) youngsters between 16 to 25 lazy, the ones who are not in education, not seeking a job, or working and are supported by welfare, that is their next real target.

On 5/27/2026 at 8:17 AM, baansgr said:

The unfair frozen pension fiasco is something else which I didn't mention. It never comes up on the talk shows, only triple lock...yes they like control

There is a simple solution to that, go back to the UK for a month or so, phone up the DWP and state you have now moved back to the UK, you pension will be bumped up to the current pension rate forever.

Then come back to Thailand, and after three months write to the DWP and tell them you have been on extended travel for the last thee months, you will still be paid the current pension rate at that time forever, until you go back and do the same thing again in a few years time where it will be increased again.

What I want to know is why do so many older people think it is normal to sit around moaning at the world, don't they realise their time on this earth is now limited and they should make the best use of it ?

Edited June 2Jun 2 by JamesPhuket10

On 5/27/2026 at 8:19 AM, baansgr said:

That's true but for a reason, there is no logical reason for younger people to hate older people though

And that is why they do not hate us.

11 hours ago, Presnock said:

Not only in your home country other places too...even Thailand is changing the retirement age from 60 to 65. US has altered their social security over the years too. A natural phenomena IMHO with the aging masses, AI replacements, lower birth rates in developed countries, etc.

Yes France put retirement age was recently raised from 62 to 64. The French were rioting in the streets because the pension age was increased to a year less than the UK retirement age used to be. What did the British do, nothing. And I bet the French pension is more generous than the UK one. So how do the French achieve it? Don't believe a word the UK Government says. Higher retirement age than France and before long means tested so you wont even get a pension despite paying NICs.

6 hours ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

Stop watching cra-p tv talk shows aimed at the terminally stupid, talk to real people and you will see it is not part of reality, I have never had any first hand abuse from younger people.

And if you look at the general news now, the tide has turned, they are now calling the 1.5 million (and growing) youngsters between 16 to 25 lazy, the ones who are not in education, not seeking a job, or working and are supported by welfare, that is their next real target.

There is a simple solution to that, go back to the UK for a month or so, phone up the DWP and state you have now moved back to the UK, you pension will be bumped up to the current pension rate forever.

Then come back to Thailand, and after three months write to the DWP and tell them you have been on extended travel for the last thee months, you will still be paid the current pension rate at that time forever, until you go back and do the same thing again in a few years time where it will be increased again.

What I want to know is why do so many older people think it is normal to sit around moaning at the world, don't they realise their time on this earth is now limited and they should make the best use of it ?

It doesn't...as soon as you leave it goes back to what it was..nothing in life is that easy

46 minutes ago, baansgr said:

It doesn't...as soon as you leave it goes back to what it was..nothing in life is that easy

That is what I thought. It only remains higher while you are in the UK.

9 minutes ago, Geoff914 said:

That is what I thought. It only remains higher while you are in the UK.

Or any other reciporocal country

8 hours ago, Geoff914 said:

Yes France put retirement age was recently raised from 62 to 64. The French were rioting in the streets because the pension age was increased to a year less than the UK retirement age used to be. What did the British do, nothing. And I bet the French pension is more generous than the UK one. So how do the French achieve it? Don't believe a word the UK Government says. Higher retirement age than France and before long means tested so you wont even get a pension despite paying NICs.

Not sure how other countries do the retirement annuity but in the US, one must have 10 quarters of paying into the system to get any money. Now as the numbers of recipients of the fund increase, plus the COLA's each year increasing what one gets, that fund is not growing fast enough so predictions of doom and gloom in the next decade so just like the US just did, they have increased the wage that folks must contribute to that fund hoping that it will increase the fund so that they will not need to cut the annuities. That tax base us now beginning to shrink too as the number of annuitants is increasing. Hard to determine what the future holds for many countries.

On 5/27/2026 at 2:17 AM, baansgr said:

The unfair frozen pension fiasco is something else which I didn't mention. It never comes up on the talk shows, only triple lock...yes they like control

The UK Frozen Pension Act came into being in 1946 . At that time very few pensioners would have been effected with only the wealthy being able to even travel abroad , let alone live abroad . The 80 year old policy is clearly out of date and not fit for use in these modern times . Any challenge to the act is defended by the governments as a lawful policy in statute . UK pensioners are a soft , easy target to rip off . Under this current welfare government there is not much chance of getting the act stopped as they prefer to subsidize idle spongers. The estimated cost to stop the F/P and reimburse frozen pensioners was over 4 billion pounds .

recall the 60s ,houses had no bathrooms no heating and coal fires ,life was tough dun south even worse up north

11 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

recall the 60s ,houses had no bathrooms no heating and coal fires ,life was tough dun south even worse up north

Ey lad, weet real grim, coal dust for breakfast, lunch ant dinner

On 5/27/2026 at 9:19 AM, marin said:

So are you showing us you are the weak one? Sure seems like it as it is your MO.

Called that one right.

5 hours ago, saintdomingo said:

Called that one right.

I have you on ignore. You have been there for weeks. That is why you have been ignored all this time despite your nasty comments and profile perving.

It's funny how strange you act from behind a keyboard.

8 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

I have you on ignore. You have been there for weeks. That is why you have been ignored all this time despite your nasty comments and profile perving.

It's funny how strange you act from behind a keyboard.

Speaking of nasty comments you must be leader of the pack.

My profile "perving" was fascination that you came from nowhere to immediately averaging about 40 posts a day. I like to check on your numbers, I think you've fallen away a bit but I could be wrong.

Pip pip

Edited June 21Jun 21 by saintdomingo

Some just don't take the hint.

Thought you had me on ignore.

I'm not sure why there would necessarily be any hatred of British pensioners, in particular, but I know that in America, many of the younger generations seem to resent "Boomers" and others who supposedly had life easier than they do today. Many want to blame the Boomers for all their current problems. A bad job market, higher costs for just about everything, including education and health care, and so on. They blame it all on the Boomers, as if every Boomer somehow contributed to the problems caused by globalization, money printing, and the move to a multipolar world order. Of course, they seem to forget that many Boomers retired with nothing much to their names except Social Security, and as things stand, that benefit isn't enough to live on in America.

3 minutes ago, jas007 said:

I'm not sure why there would necessarily be any hatred of British pensioners, in particular, but I know that in America, many of the younger generations seem to resent "Boomers" and others who supposedly had life easier than they do today. Many want to blame the Boomers for all their current problems. A bad job market, higher costs for just about everything, including education and health care, and so on. They blame it all on the Boomers, as if every Boomer somehow contributed to the problems caused by globalization, money printing, and the move to a multipolar world order. Of course, they seem to forget that many Boomers retired with nothing much to their names except Social Security, and as things stand, that benefit isn't enough to live on in America.

Everything is the fault of the boomers in UK 😊 😊 😊 well according to the younger generations. Just let them see interest rates at +17%, higher tax bands with basic income starting at 33%, having to work 43 hrs a week, 2 weeks holiday, no sick pay for 6 months, no dole money for 3 months, no maternity leave..no mental illness PIP no f@#k all basically...yeah we had it so good

36 minutes ago, baansgr said:

Everything is the fault of the boomers in UK 😊 😊 😊 well according to the younger generations. Just let them see interest rates at +17%, higher tax bands with basic income starting at 33%, having to work 43 hrs a week, 2 weeks holiday, no sick pay for 6 months, no dole money for 3 months, no maternity leave..no mental illness PIP no f@#k all basically...yeah we had it so good

Houses were cheap back then

44 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Houses were cheap back then

That ole chestnut But a £200,000 loan at 1.5% is far cheaper than an £60,000 at 17%

1 hour ago, Rockyroad said:

Houses were cheap back then

It retrospect, that would seem to be the case, at first glance. However, average earnings back then weren't much, and if average earnings had kept up with inflation, it would all be a non-issue. But average earnings have not kept up with inflation. Also, the job market is no longer so stable for many people. So there's that to consider. Going forward, something will have to give.

On 6/21/2026 at 7:23 AM, jas007 said:

It retrospect, that would seem to be the case, at first glance. However, average earnings back then weren't much, and if average earnings had kept up with inflation, it would all be a non-issue. But average earnings have not kept up with inflation. Also, the job market is no longer so stable for many people. So there's that to consider. Going forward, something will have to give.

Then control inflation and there wont be an issue, will there. Government complains that pensions are unsustainable due to inflation. Inflation of course increases the tax intake. During the recent doctors strikes it was argued that significantly increasing doctor's wages was a good thing as more tax and NI would be paid. In the case of pensioners of course no NI. I did check and I think in the last 10 years there were three instances where increases in average wages were the justification for the pension increase. But since wage increases are going to track inflation that is hardly surprising. Don't forget there is a significant lag between the accepted figure for the increase and get getting the increase. So pensioners are facing increases long before they get an increase

On 5/27/2026 at 9:48 AM, Rockyroad said:

Pattaya was crap 25 years ago. So was Patong.

I was in Patong in 2000 and it was so much fun. It was affordable and empty streets. There was basically no traffic. Nice hotels and just a fun time. jump on a ferry to "secluded" Krabi. Wonderful memories.

12 hours ago, Geoff914 said:

Then control inflation and there wont be an issue, will there. Government complains that pensions are unsustainable due to inflation. Inflation of course increases the tax intake. During the recent doctors strikes it was argued that significantly increasing doctor's wages was a good thing as more tax and NI would be paid. In the case of pensioners of course no NI. I did check and I think in the last 10 years there were three instances where increases in average wages were the justification for the pension increase. But since wage increases are going to track inflation that is hardly surprising. Don't forget there is a significant lag between the accepted figure for the increase and get getting the increase. So pensioners are facing increases long before they get an increase

Controlling inflation is only part of the problem. The other part, in some countries, is that average wages are in decline. The middle class is being eroded. In the US, that has been an ongoing problem for years, as globalization has become the norm. Good paying middle class jobs were gradually eliminated as production facilities were outsourced to places like China. The system is not static, it's dynamic.

As for pensions being unsustainable because of inflation? Hardly. Inflation is just what governments like, especially to the extent that pensions are fixed or adjusted more slowly than real inflation. Bit by bit, the value of pensions are eroded and bit by bit, the governments have an easier time footing the bill as inflation increases.

Anyway, I feel sorry for the guys from the UK on a fixed pension with no increases once you move overseas. I'm from the US and don't have that problem. Every year, I get an increase, based on the CPI back home, and yet in Thailand, I haven't noticed much real inflation. Sure, there's a little, but nothing much I've noticed.

On 6/2/2026 at 11:44 AM, Geoff914 said:

Yes France put retirement age was recently raised from 62 to 64. The French were rioting in the streets because the pension age was increased to a year less than the UK retirement age used to be. What did the British do, nothing. And I bet the French pension is more generous than the UK one. So how do the French achieve it? Don't believe a word the UK Government says. Higher retirement age than France and before long means tested so you wont even get a pension despite paying NICs.

France's generous pension system will lead the country to bankruptcy. Do you know what a retired person in France earns, on average, more than a working person?

https://www.thetimes.com/money/article/why-french-pensioners-pocket-even-more-than-workers-j9z9l3zrp

The average life for UK male is 78 years old and government say you should spend a third in retirement...so the age should be 55..yet another friend of mine died at age 60, father of 5 lovely luk krueng kids. What happens to the years he paid NI...and countless others...UK pensioners are getting right royalty shafted. 67... not right

1 hour ago, MAGA88 said:

UK government prefers to spend money for synagogues,mosques and multi-culti.

I know but they would still raise the age regardless while MPs get their super gold plated pensions...it's all wrong, totally wrong

8 minutes ago, MAGA88 said:

Not only MPs-also so called«refugees»-arrive and receive luxus accomodations.

I agree but the current and projected age increases were implemented before UK had such an asylum crisis, therefore that's why I said, regardless the age would still go up

1 hour ago, MAGA88 said:

You are absolutely right.

I simply describe modern situation.

À propos-do you know-that only in Britain these so called«refigees»receive such a privilegies?

In Germany for example-they are settled in real camps-imagine-a small barrack for 4 persons-behind fences.

You should start a thread on immigration to UK, plenty news articles to choose from and I will participate but this thread is not the place, it's about why younger people hold such "hatred" or "jealousy" towards pensioners. Not a day goes by without some entitled young kid suffering from ADHD, autism, ADD or some other made up mental health issues demanding the triple lock is ended and all pensioners are millionaires