On 6/29/2026 at 2:48 AM, baansgr said:

The average life for UK male is 78 years old and government say you should spend a third in retirement...so the age should be 55..yet another friend of mine died at age 60, father of 5 lovely luk krueng kids. What happens to the years he paid NI...and countless others...UK pensioners are getting right royalty shafted. 67... not right

Funny that you never here that argument, it is only how much longer people are living. I saw a case recently of a female Government worker who died just a few months into retirement. The whole of he pension was grabbed by the Government, her husband gets none of it.

On 6/29/2026 at 2:40 AM, Mr Awesome said:

France's generous pension system will lead the country to bankruptcy. Do you know what a retired person in France earns, on average, more than a working person?

https://www.thetimes.com/money/article/why-french-pensioners-pocket-even-more-than-workers-j9z9l3zrp

Yes and they dealt with it, they put retirement up to 64. To hear the UK Government talk you would think the UK was on verge of bankruptcy. They can't find the money to adequately fund defence spending. But hang on Starmer has just found £15 billion staffed down the back of his trousers so defence spending is safe after all.

38 minutes ago, Geoff914 said:

Funny that you never here that argument, it is only how much longer people are living. I saw a case recently of a female Government worker who died just a few months into retirement. The whole of he pension was grabbed by the Government, her husband gets none of it.

It's all on ONS website...average male age 78 expected male age 83 no matter, even at 83 gives a man only 15 years but probably only 11...that is nowhere a third of a mans working life, women fare slightly better...robbed at every corner. Disgusting government, all of them..not to mention they are taking needed jobs off the younger generations...things were supposed to get better, not worse

38 minutes ago, Geoff914 said:

Yes and they dealt with it, they put retirement up to 64. To hear the UK Government talk you would think the UK was on verge of bankruptcy. They can't find the money to adequately fund defence spending. But hang on Starmer has just found £15 billion staffed down the back of his trousers so defence spending is safe after all.

Most of these changes go back to 1995 and 2011 but implemented at later dates..Tories were in power on both occasions...the only good they did but faught it tooth and nail is the triple lock which was down to Steve Webb a Lib Dem in the coalition. Labour are no better.. pensioners are the largest voting demographic and no party seems to appreciate that 67, 68 wtf can anyone do at that age

On 5/27/2026 at 9:58 PM, baansgr said:

One smarty pants a few months ago suggested shouldn't get any pension if you live abroad...don't hold ya breath

I th8nk the original idea behind the pension was that the money given would then go back into the local community that the pensioner was living in.

Someone living overseas is now reducing that inflow by spending their pension in a foreign country. Taking away from taxes gathered to help the countries citizens.

Edited June 30Jun 30 by blaze master

9 hours ago, blaze master said:

I th8nk the original idea behind the pension was that the money given would then go back into the local community that the pensioner was living in.

Someone living overseas is now reducing that inflow by spending their pension in a foreign country. Taking away from taxes gathered to help the countries citizens.

That argument has been shot down years ago...if they won't pay your pension, then why should you have to pay tax...can't have it always..I don't get state pension yet but still have to pay tax on my private pensions ..and that amount will go up when I start receiving state pension

On 5/29/2026 at 3:14 AM, Tourist2 said:

Government are making it hard for young UK natives with IT/Computing Qualifications fresh out of Uni etc with this type of nonsense:

Under the new UK-India trade deal, huge Indian IT outsourcing firms (TCS, Infosys, etc.) can temporarily post their Indian employees to the UK for up to 3 years and pay ***zero UK National Insurance (neither employer nor employee NI)***. How it disadvantages UK IT professionals:

• Indian contractors become ~15.8% cheaper on payroll costs compared to UK hires or UK contractors.

• This helps Indian firms win more UK contracts by offering lower rates.

• UK companies (clients) therefore have a financial incentive to use Indian posted staff instead of local British IT professionals or contractors.

Ultimately, native IT workers may be displaced by individuals from India.

15 minutes ago, baansgr said:

That argument has been shot down years ago...if they won't pay your pension, then why should you have to pay tax...can't have it always..I don't get state pension yet but still have to pay tax on my private pensions ..and that amount will go up when I start receiving state pension

If you wont live in your country why should they pay your pension ?

Might of been shot down in your eyes.

Why are British Pensioners so despised

I feel your pain.

Some people who behave badly aren’t widely despised due to power, propaganda, or loyal supporters.

COUGH COUGH GLOBAL ELITE PEDOPHILE CONSPIRACY COUGH COUGH

HELLO FORMER DUKE OF YORK! 👋

20 minutes ago, blaze master said:

If you wont live in your country why should they pay your pension ?

Might of been shot down in your eyes.

If I don't live in my country, why should I pay tax....and they don't mind me not living there. I have continued my NI payments whilst living abroad, under the contract agreed in paper and on the telephone...Maybe they can refund my NI payments for the last 25 years which I have paid?..nah that argument has no holding 😁

26 minutes ago, baansgr said:

If I don't live in my country, why should I pay tax....and they don't mind me not living there. I have continued my NI payments whilst living abroad, under the contract agreed in paper and on the telephone...Maybe they can refund my NI payments for the last 25 years which I have paid?..nah that argument has no holding 😁

Just goes in circles....

If you don't live in your country why should you receive a pension. I highly doubt at its inception they ever thought so many people would want to live outside of the country. They planned for the pension money to remain in the country. Being distributed throughout the community the pensioner lived in.

4 minutes ago, blaze master said:

Just goes in circles....

If you don't live in your country why should you receive a pension. I highly doubt at its inception they ever thought so many people would want to live outside of the country. They planned for the pension money to remain in the country. Being distributed throughout the community the pensioner lived in.

Simply not true, you have always been able to pay your NI regardless of where you live, and under contract that means you are paid your pension regardless of where you live, as I said many years ago I contacted DWP, received in writing and on telephone calls that by paying my NI I will receive my pension regardless of where I live...if the government wish to renage on that, then they can pay me back my NI payments with interest...and what about increases, you don't even receive them here. I know UK is becoming a banana republic but no so much they would do that

3 minutes ago, baansgr said:

.if the government wish to renage on that, then they can pay me back my NI payments with interest...and what about increases, you don't even receive them here. I know UK is becoming a banana republic but no so much they would do that

They would want you to move home for a refund. Have they not been freezing pensions of those living outside for a very long time now ?,

The increase would start again if you moved back home.

13 minutes ago, blaze master said:

They would want you to move home for a refund. Have they not been freezing pensions of those living outside for a very long time now ?,

The increase would start again if you moved back home.

Yes freezing pensions since the pension started...so there's proof you can live abroad... 😁

I wish that someone could explain why EEA countries and Switzerland and Gibraltar plus other countries such as below have reciprocal agreements but others e.g. Canada , Australia , Thailand , India etc do not have arrangements . The freezing of UK State Pensions started in 1946 . That's 80 years ago and it is clearly not fit for purpose in today's world where travelling and retiree migration are common events . The UK government seem happy to financially assist illegal immigrants yet keep their pensioners down .

The minimum adult wage is now £12.71 per hour or £504 per 40 hours working week but a pensioner is supposed to live on half of that . Pensioners are soft targets for " I'm alright Jack " uncaring bullying

UK governments .

Non EEA countries with reciprocal agreements to the UK

• Gibraltar

• Guernsey

• the Isle of Man

• Israel

• Jamaica

• Jersey

• Kosovo

• Mauritius

• Montenegro

• North Macedonia

• the Philippines

• Serbia

• Turkey

• USA

• all have reciprocal social security agreements with the UK and pay a yearly increase in your state pension . So what is the criteria to qualify a reciprocal arrangement ?

• The EEA countries are:

  • Austria

  • Belgium

  • Bulgaria

  • Croatia

  • Cyprus

  • Czech Republic

  • Denmark

  • Estonia

  • Finland

  • France

  • Germany

  • Greece

  • Hungary

  • Iceland

  • Ireland

  • Italy

  • Latvia

  • Liechtenstein

  • Lithuania

  • Luxembourg

  • Malta

  • Netherlands

  • Norway

  • Poland

  • Portugal

  • Romania

  • Slovakia

  • Slovenia

  • Spain

  • SwedenBosnia-Herzegovina

20 minutes ago, superal said:

I wish that someone could explain why EEA countries and Switzerland and Gibraltar plus other countries such as below have reciprocal agreements but others e.g. Canada , Australia , Thailand , India etc do not have arrangements . The freezing of UK State Pensions started in 1946 . That's 80 years ago and it is clearly not fit for purpose in today's world where travelling and retiree migration are common events . The UK government seem happy to financially assist illegal immigrants yet keep their pensioners down .

The minimum adult wage is now £12.71 per hour or £504 per 40 hours working week but a pensioner is supposed to live on half of that . Pensioners are soft targets for " I'm alright Jack " uncaring bullying

UK governments .

Non EEA countries with reciprocal agreements to the UK

• Gibraltar

• Guernsey

• the Isle of Man

• Israel

• Jamaica

• Jersey

• Kosovo

• Mauritius

• Montenegro

• North Macedonia

• the Philippines

• Serbia

• Turkey

• USA

• all have reciprocal social security agreements with the UK and pay a yearly increase in your state pension . So what is the criteria to qualify a reciprocal arrangement ?

• The EEA countries are:

  • Austria

  • Belgium

  • Bulgaria

  • Croatia

  • Cyprus

  • Czech Republic

  • Denmark

  • Estonia

  • Finland

  • France

  • Germany

  • Greece

  • Hungary

  • Iceland

  • Ireland

  • Italy

  • Latvia

  • Liechtenstein

  • Lithuania

  • Luxembourg

  • Malta

  • Netherlands

  • Norway

  • Poland

  • Portugal

  • Romania

  • Slovakia

  • Slovenia

  • Spain

  • SwedenBosnia-Herzegovina

Because the UK are as tight as a ducks bum..plenty reading out there, I'll start you off with one link, you can search for the answers.

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201213/cmselect/cmworpen/1000/1000vw06.htm

Just as a side note, Steve Webb and the Lib Dems actively faught for pension increases to all of those living abroad, regardless of location...not the Tories, not the lieboir party

Edited July 1Jul 1 by baansgr

Make your vote abroad count

The only party that cares!!!

https://www.libdemsoverseas.com/policies-abroad/unfreezing-uk-pensions

7 hours ago, Effective altruism said:

Ultimately, native IT workers may be displaced by individuals from India.

Yes, the elites want to turn white countries into low IQ beige. Theyre b*******s.

3 hours ago, baansgr said:

Because the UK are as tight as a ducks bum..plenty reading out there, I'll start you off with one link, you can search for the answers.

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201213/cmselect/cmworpen/1000/1000vw06.htm

Just as a side note, Steve Webb and the Lib Dems actively faught for pension increases to all of those living abroad, regardless of location...not the Tories, not the lieboir party

They said the same thing to students about a decade ago then went back on it.
All of these political parties are bait n switch ****s

Eg. Trump no more wars.

They're OWNED by the Military (and ultimatelu the Finanacial) Industrial Complexes

19 hours ago, Geoff914 said:

To hear the UK Government talk you would think the UK was on verge of bankruptcy.

They are in really. Deficit (difference between income & expenditure) has been widening for years - what should they cut back on so you can afford more hookers?.

Starmer works for the Military Industrilal complex hence all the money sent to the black hole that is the Ukraine. They''re ALL frauds, liars and crooks.

To be honest, you're lucky you get anything at all.
They're already floating the removal of the triple lock and the next govt will likely need to do it.

Boomers are dying off and are widely percieved as having lived in a golden age where even a shop assistent or milkman could afford to buy a house. Your generation is also percieved as having overseen the destruction and transformation from UK to Yookay etc etc (Starmer is a boomer too as were the last few wretches apart from the Indian who was placed there - likely by some boomers.

You guys could have made bank so there's not much sympathy if you didn;t from people being charged £1200 a month for a <deleted> shoebox apartment.
Many (rightly or wrongly) think you guys should GFYs.

Just saying.

Anyway, ain';t gonna happen so best find something else to moan about.

Edited July 1Jul 1 by Tourist2

9 hours ago, blaze master said:

Just goes in circles....

If you don't live in your country why should you receive a pension. I highly doubt at its inception they ever thought so many people would want to live outside of the country. They planned for the pension money to remain in the country. Being distributed throughout the community the pensioner lived in.

Dunno what the Silent Gen did to raise so many selfish little monsters but a LARGE proprtion of western boomers are 1000% ME ME ME ME ME type babies.

There's even a good book about them called "Boomers - A_Generation_of_Sociopaths_-by_Bruce_Cannon_Gibney"

As they die off, other gens are likely to vote pension cuts for boomers so as the song goes: These Are The Good Times.

Enjoy them while they last!

On 5/28/2026 at 6:38 AM, BritManToo said:

To be fair, Cons and Lab have both been following the same agenda for the past 20 years.

And Farage isn't any different, his party is full of immigrants and Lab/Con MPs.

It's not as if there had been any real opposition until Lowe and Restore (and Tommy).

Lowe and Restore and Tommy will also turn out to be frauds if they get anywhere neear power.
If not, they'll get Liz Trussed (forced out by the BoE and Financial Industrial Complex.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZL3U1etEW4

Pensions are a Ponzi scheme - Boomers moaning about it (not u) are delulu.

Younger gens are subsidising old bastards to spaff money up 5rd world hookers - the moaners should be thanking God - and the English taxpayers subsidising them.

On 5/27/2026 at 3:35 AM, Rams86 said:

This certainly doesn't happen in Thailand. I'm 81 yo and people in my large estate and other places treat me with the utmost respect.

On 5/27/2026 at 3:45 AM, baansgr said:

Exactly, that's great and how it should be

Thais are family orientated so respect the old. Thai boomers didn't have 50%+ divorce rates or act like degenerates either.
They also don't desert their families to live 6000 miles away to spaff their money on foreign hookers - it's a totally different system. They may even have a legacy of HELPING THEIR OWN instead of expecting more subsidies.
Also young Thais don't have to subsidise your sweaty old self by paying your pensions.

Life expectancy has increased and you've had how many years of free money from taxpayers?
Whiney old pricks is a big reason that some get annoyed by boomers.

I want more! I paid in!
So fkn tiresome.
STFU or Foxtrot Oscar.

The Yookay (formerly the UK before the boomers inherited and ruined it with financilaisation and the importation of the 3rd world) is FLAT BROKE and being ravaged by useless eater / parasites (inc. whiney boomers via triple lock pensions & 'rNHS' pointlessly treating their decrepit useless whinging old asses).

So suck it up ry getting blood out of a stone or hurry up and die already.

x

Edited July 1Jul 1 by Tourist2

3 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:

Thais are family orientated so respect the old. They don't have 50%+ divorce rates or act like degenerates either.
They also don't desert their families to live 6000 miles away to spaff their money on hookers - it's a totally different system. They may even have a legacy of helping their own.
Also young Thais don't have to subsidise your sweaty old self by paying your pensions.

Life expectancy has increased and you've had how many years of free money from taxpayers?
Whiney old pricks is a big reason that some get annoyed by boomers.

I want more! I paid in!
So fkn tiresome.
STFU or Foxtrot Oscar.

The Yookay (formerly the UK before the boomers inherited and ruined it with financilaisation and the importation of the 3rd world) is FLAT BROKE and being ravaged by useless eater / parasites (inc. whiney boomers via triple lock pensions & 'rNHS' pointlessly treating their decrepit useless whinging old asses).

So suck it up ry getting blood out of a stone or hurry up and die already.

x

Flat broke?

1 hour ago, Tourist2 said:

As they die off, other gens are likely to vote pension cuts for boomers so as the song goes: These Are The Good Times.

The pension system is becoming a significant burden for younger generations. As they age, their views on pensions may change. If they struggle to afford a home, how can they possibly save for retirement? The West is structurally broken because fewer people are getting married and raising families. Now they lack the workers to fund the generous social programs.

The pension system is becoming a significant burden for younger generations. As they age, their views on pensions may change. If they struggle to afford a home, how can they possibly save for retirement? The West is structurally broken because fewer people are getting married and raising families. Now they lack the workers to fund the generous social programs.

UK has accepted 12 million immigrants in recent years...can't keep saying there is not enough workers, that's an ole chestnut now👍

Edited July 1Jul 1 by baansgr

7 minutes ago, baansgr said:

UK has accepted 12 million immigrants in recent years...can't keep saying there is not enough workers, that's an ole chestnut now👍

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10139/?s=07&utm_source=chatgpt.com

The UK has a 2.5: ratio.

A really hateful political choice of UK politicians showing such disregard to their own. While on the other hand they find billions for funding Ukraine, the UK royals and other absurd expenditures. No wonder that even moderate people end up in voting for Trump alikes.

Edited July 1Jul 1 by Sigmund

25 minutes ago, Effective altruism said:

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10139/?s=07&utm_source=chatgpt.com

The UK has a 2.5: ratio.

Yes good reading, it also points out that more than 8 million pensioners are on the old state pension, roughly £180 a week....more smoke and mirrors, misinformation and basically spreading rubbish from the younguns. Still, good of them to pay for my pension 😁 😁 😁

26 minutes ago, Sigmund said:

A really hateful political choice of UK politicians showing such disregard to their own. While on the other hand they find billions for funding Ukraine, the UK royals and other absurd expenditures. No wonder that even moderate people end up in voting for Trump alikes.

Lib Dems, the only way to go 👍