21 minutes ago, mark5335 said:

I'm curious why the "t" is some words is silent.

Great question.

How do you pronounce listen, castle, whistle and fasten in your dialect?

Must be hard to pronounce. 👑

8 hours ago, flaming dragon said:

Especially Brit Youtubers consistently call it 'Jontiem'. Is it a form of dyslexia? They seem to be the only nationality that consistently screws up such a simple word.

lots of research to come up with that conclusion, or something that just came to you

3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

YouTubers are definitely not well educated, so don't expect them to set standards

And you know this how?

1 minute ago, flexomike said:

And you know this how?

I think the proper term is Influencer of which lack of education or knowledge is no barrier to producing content online for likes = ad revenue 😄

5 minutes ago, flexomike said:

And you know this how?

Obvious to most of us, educated usually have jobs and income

8 hours ago, flaming dragon said:

Especially Brit Youtubers consistently call it 'Jontiem'. Is it a form of dyslexia? They seem to be the only nationality that consistently screws up such a simple word.

It's most likely either a developmental disorder or a condition called Aphasia, which is often caused by stroke, or head trauma.

You'll sometimes find that the person can't correctly repeat a word they've just heard.

I've worked with people who display this condition, but are otherwise intelligent and functional perfectly normally.

I do find it frustrating though, especially your example 'Jontiem'.

Have you ever heard American pronunciation?

Many people don't know that both aluminum and aluminium are of British origin, as are football and soccer.

Noah Webster (the dictionary guy) deliberately changed English words to distinguish American English from British English. Driven by post-Revolutionary nationalism, he believed America needed its own unified language and culture.

Put some ketchup on it and it may sound better

maybe the same reason they can not say pattaya

6 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

The one that really gets to me is when ANYONE (not just Brits) pronounce Pattaya pa TIE ya.

May we add people who say Patters? And then the Bangers people when Bangers and Bangkok require the same input of characters.

7 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

May we add people who say Patters? And then the Bangers people when Bangers and Bangkok require the same input of characters.

Even worse, just plain "Pats." One of my oldest and dearest friends (BTW, he IS Brit) uses that abbreviated reference. I try to ignore it, but my anus does pucker just a little every time he does.

8 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Why Can't Brits Say...

Aluminum

Garage

Schedule

Tomato

Herb

We could play this game all day. 🥃

I'm guessing British pronunciation reflects older French influence.. .?

The proper pronunciation for these words is how the British say it, NOT what septics say. We did invent America after all.😉

The language is called English..........................so the clue is in the title.

2 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

The language is called English..........................so the clue is in the title

The word “English” comes from the name of a Germanic tribe called the Angles.

Germany has entered the chat.

Nein Nein Nein ❓

Edited June 9Jun 9 by SiSePuede419

3 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

The word “English” comes from the name of a Germanic tribe called the Angles.

Nein Nein Nein 😂

Correct. It was originally called Angle Land which evolved to England.

The point of my post though is the language isn't called "American'. It's called English so those who speak the proper Queen's English (now the King's English) pronounce the words correctly.

6 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

Correct. It was originally called Angle Land which evolved to England.

The point of my post though is the language isn't called "American'. It's called English so those who speak the proper Queen's English (now the King's English) pronounce the words correctly.

Except of course for the dialects every 25 miles.

Reminds me of this old movie.

7 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

The one that really gets to me is when ANYONE (not just Brits) pronounce Pattaya pa TIE ya.

Or pronounce Hua Hin as 'Waa hin'. Bizarre

Chip on your shoulder?

Or perhaps, in deference to your transatlantic roots, perhaps one should say a "french frie on your shoulder?

9 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Why Can't Brits Say...

Aluminum

Garage

Schedule

Tomato

Herb

We could play this game all day. 🥃

I'm guessing British pronunciation reflects older French influence.. .?

The reason could be very simple. They are probably using American English not the correct English.

8 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

The reason could be very simple. They are probably using American English not the correct English.

It should be illegal to say erb instead of herb.

5 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

The reason could be very simple. They are probably using American English not the correct English.

American English is correct English, just as English from the UK is, and Australian English is correct for Australia. It's regional, and correct for each region.

It, along with foods, architecture and cultures are what makes the world interesting. American English is actually the largest taught worldwide.

My school owner friend here always tries to find native English speakers from America, so his children don't adopt the accent of the British style. He does hire them also, as well as some from Cameroon and the Philippines, as any English the children learn will help them in life. He went to America for a year to learn English himself. Both English styles are "correct".

Edited June 9Jun 9 by fredwiggy

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

American English is correct English, just as English from the UK is, and Australian English is correct for Australia. It's regional, and correct for each region.

It, along with foods, architecture and cultures are what makes the world interesting. American English is actually the largest taught worldwide.

My school owner friend here always tries to find native English speakers from America, so his children don't adopt the accent of the British style. he does hire them also, as well as some from Cameroon and the Philippines, as any English the children learn will help them in life. Both English styles are "correct".

In your mind it is, in reality it isn't. Sorry to burst your bubble.

1 minute ago, Photoguy21 said:

In your mind it is, in reality it isn't. Sorry to burst your bubble.

It's a fact. This is AI, but you can find multiple links saying the same things. It's a prejudice thinking any style is correct, as millions speak both. Some accents aren't easy to understand in the UK, speaking English, and a couple in America also, such as the deep south.

Yes, American English is a perfectly correct and legitimate variety of the English language. It is an established regional standard with its own grammar, spelling, and vocabulary rules, serving as the primary language for hundreds of millions of native speakers worldwide.

Linguists view no single dialect as fundamentally superior to another. Languages naturally evolve and regionalize based on location and culture. Instead of one version being strictly "right," "correctness" is determined by context and clarity:

• Location: American English is the accepted standard in the United States. Similarly, British English is correct in the UK, and Australian English is correct in Australia.

• Global Use: Because of global media and commerce, American English is the most influential and widely taught variety of English in many parts of the world.

• Formality: "Standard American English" is the codified written format taught in U.S. schools and used in journalism, business, and academia......................https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_English

Edited June 9Jun 9 by fredwiggy

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

It's a fact. This is AI, but you can find multiple links saying the same things. It's a prejudice thinking any style is correct, as millions speak both. Some accents aren't easy to understand in the UK, speaking English, and a couple in America also, such as the deep south.

Yes, American English is a perfectly correct and legitimate variety of the English language. It is an established regional standard with its own grammar, spelling, and vocabulary rules, serving as the primary language for hundreds of millions of native speakers worldwide. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Linguists view no single dialect as fundamentally superior to another. Languages naturally evolve and regionalize based on location and culture. Instead of one version being strictly "right," "correctness" is determined by context and clarity: [1, 2, 3]

• Location: American English is the accepted standard in the United States. Similarly, British English is correct in the UK, and Australian English is correct in Australia. [1, 2]

• Global Use: Because of global media and commerce, American English is the most influential and widely taught variety of English in many parts of the world. [1]

• Formality: "Standard American English" is the codified written format taught in U.S. schools and used in journalism, business, and academia. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Live in your delusion, most Americans do which is why you believe the USA is the centre of the universe. It is legitimate yes but it is a variation of correct English

Edited June 9Jun 9 by Photoguy21

2 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

Live in your delusion, most Americans do which is why you believe the USA is the centre of the universe.

America is, besides what some others think, a melting pot of ALL nationalities, creeds and races in one place. Nothing to do with any center but a world leader because of this fact. The reason my friend wants to hire English speakers more from the US is because there isn't such a strong accent in most speakers, unless they have the southern drawl or Bostonian style.This man explains it well.................https://thinkinginenglish.blog/2021/03/02/55-british-english-vs-american-english-which-is-better/

Edited June 9Jun 9 by fredwiggy

41 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

The reason could be very simple. They are probably using American English not the correct English.

The US outnumbers the UK by quite a bit, so too bad. Then again, India outnumbers both by quite a bit, so practice your head wobble.

13 hours ago, Off Piste said:

I've never noticed it........but then maybe it's because I'm British...........

Neither have I but I avoid slackpacker videos from all sources.

42 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

America is, besides what some others think, a melting pot of ALL nationalities, creeds and races in one place. Nothing to do with any center but a world leader because of this fact. The reason my friend wants to hire English speakers more from the US is because there isn't such a strong accent in most speakers, unless they have the southern drawl or Bostonian style.This man explains it well.................https://thinkinginenglish.blog/2021/03/02/55-british-english-vs-american-english-which-is-better/

How do you say her?

3 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

How do you say her?

Her