Platner is a phony.

But he'll be elected. The first time I heard him speaking months ago I knew he's win.

The old, white Karens in Maine are all dreaming of Platner dragging them by the hair and throwing them on the bed.

Edited June 14Jun 14 by Yellowtail

5 hours ago, riclag said:

A dem party with a senator wearing Nazi nostalgia will be hard pressed to walk back the nazi nostalgia and the hate it represents .

Platner's sins may already be catching up with him.

Maine Senate Race Narrows to Toss-Up as Collins Closes Gap

June 12, 2026|2026 Election

Quantus Insights survey finds Graham Platner leading Susan Collins 46% to 45%, down from a seven-point March advantage.

https://quantusinsights.org/f/maine-senate-race-narrows-to-toss-up-as-collins-closes-gap

I'm a bit surprised the Dems kept him as a candidate after his history of messing around on Kik. Apparently Maine Dem voters bought the story he didn't know the totenkopf was a Nazi symbol. It's possible that Platner himself didn't recognize the death's head symbol of the Schutzstaffel (SS), but it's likely other Marines who did know its meaning would have seen it and told him. It's a question of how fast he had the tattoo altered.

44 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

Platner's sins may already be catching up with him.

Maine Senate Race Narrows to Toss-Up as Collins Closes Gap

June 12, 2026|2026 Election

Quantus Insights survey finds Graham Platner leading Susan Collins 46% to 45%, down from a seven-point March advantage.

https://quantusinsights.org/f/maine-senate-race-narrows-to-toss-up-as-collins-closes-gap

I'm a bit surprised the Dems kept him as a candidate after his history of messing around on Kik. Apparently Maine Dem voters bought the story he didn't know the totenkopf was a Nazi symbol. It's possible that Platner himself didn't recognize the death's head symbol of the Schutzstaffel (SS), but it's likely other Marines who did know its meaning would have seen it and told him. It's a question of how fast he had the tattoo altered.

The BBC is prompting up the Dem party choice wearing Nazi nostalgia!

"If he succeeds where other Democrats have failed, he could pull his party – and the US Senate – to the left and prove that novice candidates, baggage and all, can win big races in battleground states".

"As the American adage goes, Platner is the kind of guy voters feel they could have a beer with"

Will Maine's scandal-hit Graham Platner help save or sink...

Graham Platner, who won his Maine primary on a left-wing, anti-establishment message, now faces a formidable Republican in key Senate race.

Edited June 14Jun 14 by riclag

It didn't look like the Dem's struggled Mr. Turley ,they fully embraced the guy that had the Nazi symbol that the SS used.

"That line from a famous comedy sketch came to mind this week as Democrats struggled to embrace Graham Platner, the Nazi-tattooed, Hamas-praising, veteran-bashing, sex-texting, self-described Communist who was just nominated to be the next U.S. senator from Maine.

For years, Schumer and others have been calling their political opponents “Nazis.” With help from an enabling media, they even fueled outrage over a false claim that Elon Musk had given a Nazi salute at an inauguration celebration".

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5922240-platner-nazi-tattoo-controversy/

8 hours ago, riclag said:

For years, Schumer and others have been calling their political opponents “Nazis.”

I guess you're unable to distinguish between old tattoos and current tactics?

46 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

I guess you're unable to distinguish between old tattoos and current tactics?

Current? I remember the left calling Regan a Nazi, Bush 1 a Nazi, Bush 2 a Nazi and now Trump has been a Nazi for 12 years.

15 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

I'm a bit surprised the Dems kept him as a candidate after his history of messing around on Kik.

But you weren't surprised that a bank fraudster, tax fraudster, draft dodger was chosen as a GOP candidate?

8 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

But you weren't surprised that a bank fraudster, tax fraudster, draft dodger was chosen as a GOP candidate?

Trump has not been convicted of tax or bank fraud, and draft-dodging became acceptable with Bill Clinton and reaffirmed with Jo Biden, yes?

38 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Trump has not been convicted of tax or bank fraud, and draft-dodging became acceptable with Bill Clinton and reaffirmed with Jo Biden, yes?

Technically you're correct but he was convicted of fraud in furtherance of reducing local RE taxes and seeking better interest rates by deceiving the banks about his asset values. The Trump Organization's goals were tax fraud and bank fraud.

On February 16, 2024, Engoron found that: "In order to borrow more and at lower rates, defendants submitted blatantly false financial data to the accountants, resulting in fraudulent financial statements."

4 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

Technically you're correct but he was convicted of fraud in furtherance of reducing local RE taxes and seeking better interest rates by deceiving the banks about his asset values. The Trump Organization's goals were tax fraud and bank fraud.

On February 16, 2024, Engoron found that: "In order to borrow more and at lower rates, defendants submitted blatantly false financial data to the accountants, resulting in fraudulent financial statements."

Trump was sued by New York, and the NY appeals court threw out the judgment.

The NY AG is apparently appealing the ruling.

The whole thing was made up.

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Trump was sued by New York, and the NY appeals court threw out the judgment.

The NY AG is apparently appealing the ruling.

The whole thing was made up.

The financial judgement was set aside... the other penalties were not. Put whatever spin on the facts that you like, the Trump Organization LOST.

Edited June 15Jun 15 by gamb00ler

1 minute ago, gamb00ler said:

The financial judgement was set aside... the other penalties were not. The Trump Organization LOST.

It was a lawsuit, other than financial, what were the other penalties?

And if the Trump Organization lost, why is the AG appealing?

In any event, nothing criminal, and to pretend it was to lie, but you don't care about that, do you?

11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

It was a lawsuit, other than financial, what were the other penalties?

And if the Trump Organization lost, why is the AG appealing?

In any event, nothing criminal, and to pretend it was to lie, but you don't care about that, do you?

It seems you have no idea to find answer all by yourself

Guilty.... is GUILTY... civil or criminal.

Edited June 15Jun 15 by gamb00ler

9 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

It seems you have no idea to find answer all by yourself

Guilty.... is GUILTY... civil or criminal.

In other words, you were making that up as well, yes? All you have is made up nonsense, isn't it?

In any event, there was no judgement of guilt, to say there was it to lie, but again, you do not care, do you?

25 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

In other words, you were making that up as well, yes? All you have is made up nonsense, isn't it?

In any event, there was no judgement of guilt, to say there was it to lie, but again, you do not care, do you?

I hope you don't consider English your first language.....

guilty is NOT ALWAYS AND ONLY a verdict.

47 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

I hope you don't consider English your first language.....

guilty is NOT ALWAYS AND ONLY a verdict.

Do you feel guilty when you spew nonsense?

In any event, he has not been judged guilty, yet you insist he is, that says a lot more about you than him.

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you feel guilty when you spew nonsense?

In any event, he has not been judged guilty, yet you insist he is, that says a lot more about you than him.

yeah... English isn't one of your strengths

Even Australian Sky News is calling out the blatant hypocrisy,My own former hometown Massachusetts GOP is directly condemning the MassDems for letting "Nazi Graham Platner" recruit at their convention.

This is the same party that screams Nazi at the GOP daily. Yet they’re rallying behind a guy who wore an SS death's head tattoo for nearly 20 years, only covered it up when it became a campaign issue, and whose ex GF was calling it a "Nazi tattoo" months before he claims he learned what it was.

“They [Democrats] claim to be all about high principle, women's rights, equality, and most of all, against Nazis. Yet they will throw all these principles aside if it means grabbing power,” Mr Morrow said".

https://massgop.com/massgop-condemns-massdems-for-allowing-nazi-graham-platner-to-recruit-at-their-convention/

19 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

yeah... English isn't one of your strengths

And integrity not one of yours...

35 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

And integrity not one of yours...

and what evidence of such a lack do you present?

2 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

and what evidence of such a lack do you present?

You first

20 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

21 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

I hope you don't consider English your first language.....

guilty is NOT ALWAYS AND ONLY a verdict.

20 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you feel guilty when you spew nonsense?

In any event, he has not been judged guilty, yet you insist he is, that says a lot more about you than him.

What do you consider nonsense? What I stated is indeed correct. We call people guilty when they're found responsible for doing something wrong. Guilty is used more often outside the court than in.

Trump Organization did something wrong, so is correct to call them guilty. In a civil case there is no guilty verdict... only liable. Obviously using 'guilty' in the context of a civil trial is not using GUILTY as a verdict.

Stop making false statements before you embarrass yourself further.

14 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You first

your claim... your responsibility to substantiate...I'll wait

Edited June 16Jun 16 by gamb00ler

22 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

I hope you don't consider English your first language.....

guilty is NOT ALWAYS AND ONLY a verdict.

21 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you feel guilty when you spew nonsense?

In any event, he has not been judged guilty, yet you insist he is, that says a lot more about you than him.

20 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

yeah... English isn't one of your strengths

You don't understand English well enough to figure out that guilty has both legal and lay meanings... even after I spelled it out.

10 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

You don't understand English well enough to figure out that guilty has both legal and lay meanings... even after I spelled it out.

I never said it did not. That you deflected to my English skills shows your lack of integrity.

14 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I never said it did not. That you deflected to my English skills shows your lack of integrity.

I only pointed out that you did not comprehend that Trump could be called guilty despite not having a verdict of GUILTY. Is that not indicative of weak English skills?

9 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

I only pointed out that you did not comprehend that Trump could be called guilty despite not having a verdict of GUILTY. Is that not indicative of weak English skills?

Trump can be called anything by anyone at any time, so?

8 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Trump can be called anything by anyone at any time, so?

but guilt is proven in this case... since he's your hero, knock yourself out dreaming up adulatory adjectives for him. Great for a hearty laugh!

Just for fun... here's the summary from the LIABLE verdict in that trial:

Donald Trump and entities he controls own many valuable properties, including office buildings, hotels, and golf courses. Acquiring and developing such properties required huge amounts of cash. Accordingly, the entities borrowed from banks and other lenders. The lenders required personal guarantees from Donald Trump, which were based on statements of financial condition compiled by accountants that Donald Trump engaged. The accountants created these “compilations” based on data submitted by the Trump entities. In order to borrow more and at lower rates, defendants submitted blatantly false financial data to the accountants, resulting in fraudulent financial statements. When confronted at trial with the statements, defendants’ fact and expert witnesses simply denied reality, and defendants failed to accept responsibility or to impose internal controls to prevent future recurrences. As detailed herein, this Court now finds defendants liable, continues the appointment of an Independent Monitor, orders the installation of an Independent Director of Compliance, and limits defendants’ right to conduct business in New York for a few years.

Edited June 16Jun 16 by gamb00ler

5 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

but guilt is proven in this case... since he's your hero, knock yourself out dreaming up adulatory adjectives for him. Great for a hearty laugh!

Just for fun... here's the summary from the LIABLE verdict in that trial:

Donald Trump and entities he controls own many valuable properties, including office buildings, hotels, and golf courses. Acquiring and developing such properties required huge amounts of cash. Accordingly, the entities borrowed from banks and other lenders. The lenders required personal guarantees from Donald Trump, which were based on statements of financial condition compiled by accountants that Donald Trump engaged. The accountants created these “compilations” based on data submitted by the Trump entities. In order to borrow more and at lower rates, defendants submitted blatantly false financial data to the accountants, resulting in fraudulent financial statements. When confronted at trial with the statements, defendants’ fact and expert witnesses simply denied reality, and defendants failed to accept responsibility or to impose internal controls to prevent future recurrences. As detailed herein, this Court now finds defendants liable, continues the appointment of an Independent Monitor, orders the installation of an Independent Director of Compliance, and limits defendants’ right to conduct business in New York for a few years.

So now you resort to lying and claiming Trump is my hero, which again shows your lack of integrity.

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

So now you resort to lying and claiming Trump is my hero, which again shows your lack of integrity.

so sorry.... more accurately you post in his defense even when it's indefensible.