Let us assume for a moment that there exists a certain type of foreigner in Thailand.

I have never personally met any, of course.

But let us imagine him.

He has spent years living in an environment where virtually every problem can be solved quickly, efficiently, and with very little administrative overhead other than possessing a functioning ATM card.

As a result, something interesting starts to happen.

He begins evaluating all forms of romantic opportunity using the same cost benefit analysis.

Not just financial cost.

Everything.

Time cost.

Energy cost.

Stress cost.

Future complication cost.

Suppose a much younger woman shows some reasonable interest in him.

In most countries this would be viewed as a positive development.

But our hypothetical gentleman immediately starts running calculations against the one hour service option.

How many text messages will this require?

How many awkward conversations?

How many possible boring dinners?

How many mixed signals?

How many unexpected emotional collapses?

How difficult will the exit strategy be when things eventually go pear shaped?

The strange thing is that the need for physical attraction itself almost becomes secondary.

The main deciding factor becomes hassle.

That said, the calculation is not always the same. A particularly aesthetic option can make a surprising amount of hassle seem perfectly acceptable, whereas a less visually intriguing one may not survive the initial risk assessment.

At some point a man can find himself rejecting perfectly reasonable bedroom sports invitations simply because he cannot be arsed to fill out the paperwork.

Not real paperwork, obviously.

You know what I mean...

Perhaps Thailand has not ruined dating though.

Perhaps it has simply spoiled a certain category of men by exposing them to a level of convenience that normal dating struggles to compete with.

I have no idea.

Just a theory...

I've concluded that meeting a very attractive young hot thai women is just an elephant trap that will lead to marriage, kids, houses, condos. Then You're trapped in the system. No thanks

2 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

I've concluded that meeting a very attractive young hot thai women is just an elephant trap that will lead to marriage, kids, houses, condos. Then You're trapped in the system. No thanks

In many cases you are right. So many get trapped by kids. Not having kids is the key.

8 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

In many cases you are right. So many get trapped by kids. Not having kids is the key.

Yes kids is the biggest thing, how many thai girlfriends have accidentally got pregnant? too many

Just now, scubascuba3 said:

Yes kids is the biggest thing, how many thai girlfriends have accidentally got pregnant? too many

From reading over the years many said they wanted to move but stuck by kids. Kids should be home country only.

Also don't get married after age 50. Just have gfs. Divorce rates on 2nd and 3rd marriages are 52% and 72%.

9 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

From reading over the years many said they wanted to move but stuck by kids. Kids should be home country only.

Also don't get married after age 50. Just have gfs. Divorce rates on 2nd and 3rd marriages are 52% and 72%.

Don't even get married a first time unless you really really really want it, rather than going along with what you are meant to do

48 minutes ago, Alpha84 said:

Suppose a much younger woman shows some reasonable interest in him.

In most countries this would be viewed as a positive development.

In most countries this would NEVER happen.

Most of the younger women looking for security

Perhaps they have been abandoned by the father of her child, now she is looking for someone to put food on the table because she has no social security payments to rely on.

Edited June 11Jun 11 by SAFETY FIRST

3 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Don't even get married a first time unless you really really really want it, rather than going along with what you are meant to do

Society pushes marriages and kids. 1st marriage divorce rate is 43% so at least 57% good.

1 minute ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

In most countries this would NEVER happen.

❌ Incorrect, i always had a younger girlfriend back home, 10-15 years

3 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Society pushes marriages and kids. 1st marriage divorce rate is 43% so at least 57% good.

57% not good, many people in miserable marriages stay together anyway due to lack of options, fear etc

58 minutes ago, Alpha84 said:

Perhaps Thailand has not ruined dating though

Dating is easy in Thailand.

38 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

In many cases you are right. So many get trapped by kids. Not having kids is the key.

How many kids you have. And how many here in Thailand?

I must be the exception. And yea, surprised the hell out of me also.

Go figure 😂

4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

How many kids you have. And how many here in Thailand?

Can you imagine, for them?............https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKcAYMb5uk4

Edited June 11Jun 11 by fredwiggy

I can just imagine old Raquel on a date. All 25 sweaty stone of her spilling over the sides of the chair, mullet catching the breeze, Viking pants stretched beyond their capacity limit, and still acting like she’s a grand prize. Surely, quite the spectacle. Lol.

2 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

❌ Incorrect, i always had a younger girlfriend back home, 10-15 years

OK, I forgot to say there are exceptions, you and me.

✅ Correct, I was talking about the average foreigner, the guys you see walking around soi Buakhou. These guys aren't having younger girlfriends.

Edited June 11Jun 11 by SAFETY FIRST

57 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

❌ Incorrect, i always had a younger girlfriend back home, 10-15 years

Agree,

My last lover in the UK, I was 52, she was 23 ..........

Indeed, at some point everything is a cost / value judgement,

with competing pros and cons, different values with different weights, constantly changing on your day, your mood, health, gut feeling.

I always go with the adage,

the only mistake I ever made was thinking I made one.

It was the correct decision at the time going with what I knew and felt at the time.

No future regrets.

Edited June 11Jun 11 by cobra

26 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Agree,

My last lover in the UK, I was 52, she was 23 ..........

Oooh, beat you. Me 67, her 37.

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

Can you imagine, for them?............https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKcAYMb5uk4

Being in the same room as you would be horrible.

2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

I've concluded that meeting a very attractive young hot thai women is just an elephant trap that will lead to marriage, kids, houses, condos. Then You're trapped in the system. No thanks

Marin gave me thumbs down for agreeing with you but not to you. Proof he has issues and does not read content. His goose is cooked. A more dishonest person I have not come across.

2 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Marin gave me thumbs down for agreeing with you but not to you. Proof he has issues and does not read content. His goose is cooked. A more dishonest person I have not come across.

Jesus what a snow flake. I gave you the thumbs down for your comments on children. I disagree with you and think kids make a marraige or relationship all the better. I was blessed with twin daughters 28 years ago, they have been the highlight of my life. One now married to a doctor and working for Space X, the other working for Google and married to an IT engineer. Both married in the last year and both so happy. This makes me happy and fullfilled.

You will never feel this. In fact you will never come close to the feeling.

Stop with the BS rocky I have never been dishonest. You are constantly putting others down, and trying to pick arguments. This occurs when you are either in a manic stage of being bi polar, or you are on amphetamines. Right now you are tweaking big time.

Decades of research consistently show that a couple's relationship satisfaction takes a significant hit after the birth of their first child.

• The Decline: Studies show that the rate of decline in marital satisfaction is nearly twice as steep for couples with children compared to childless couples

19 minutes ago, marin said:

working for Space X

Is she gonna be rich tomorrow?

You don't like Trump and MAGA. How do you feel about her working for Epstein associate? I mean this is equal to working for Volkswagen in Nazi Germany.

Edited June 12Jun 12 by Celsius

3 hours ago, Alpha84 said:

I have no idea.

Just a theory...

You had no idea, but you had a theory?

What really motivates men to have a relationship? Stability, friendship, partnership and someone to lean on when life gets tough. Someone to care for, support and respect, and who gives the same back. Someone to make plans, travel, build dreams and share experiences with.

Some men calculate everything in time, money, effort and complications. Others want to share, protect and cultivate the best of what both bring into the relationship.

Thailand might make casual sex easier, but it does not replace trust, companionship and building something together.

2 minutes ago, Celsius said:

Is she gonna be rich tomorrow?

You don't like Trump and MAGA. How do you feel about her working for Epstein associate?

She has accrued 1300 shares over her 2.5 years. I am happy for her. I also know once the IPO from Space X comes out she will give notice. She has an offer from K2 Space and will move to La Jolla Ca as her husband works at UC San Diego Med Center.

18 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

• The "Permanently Unmarried" Lifespan: For couples who cross the 3-year mark and choose not to marry, the relationship length behaves very similarly to marriage. Many of these relationships last for decades, though statistically, the average duration of a cohabiting relationship that ends in a breakup is around 4.5 to 5 years.

I thought seven years was the barrier for couples, so I had to look it up. Anyway, I have never felt any struggle or loss of spark, rather the opposite. But we started as friends and took our time establishing a relationship. Maybe that is the difference from relationships that start with everything at once.

Don’t Let the ‘Seven-Year Itch’ Sabotage Your Relationship

To reignite the spark, work on strengthening your communication and reestablishing trust

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/seven-year-itch

5 hours ago, Hummin said:

Some men calculate everything in time, money, effort and complications. Others want to share, protect and cultivate the best of what both bring into the relationship.

Thailand might make casual sex easier, but it does not replace trust, companionship and building something together.

Western men in Thailand are NOT the average.
Ask Joe or Jane Bloggs back in your home country what they think of old white men in Thailand.

Everyone wants to look smart so thery're on here calculating everything in time, money, effort and complications and age range difference (the bigger the batter).

Truth iis something went wrong.
A LOT of that is down to the welfare state (Number 1 provider / baby daddy in the modern world - replacing the role of man), feminism/witchy/nasty women (enabled by wesstern benefits and legal systems), and feckless/useless men lacking honour, sense of responsibility (via playboy / hippy culture etc).

IMHO financial interests & their social engineers did a job on us - divide to conquer:
Atomise the family, get the women in the workforce (lower wages for all & also contributing tax) and children into nurseries and dchools ASAP (so they can be indoctrinated in woke, DEI and other BS that perpetuates the aforementioned problems).

Divorce rates aren't as super high as we often assume - you'll often meet serial divorcees (usually men seeking being mothered) and they account for a LOT of the divorce stats.

As you say, Thailand might make casual sex easier, but it does not replace trust, companionship and building something together.

11 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:

Western men in Thailand are NOT the average.
Ask Joe or Jane Bloggs back in your home country what they think of old white men in Thailand.

Everyone wants to look smart so thery're on here calculating everything in time, money, effort and complications and age range difference (the bigger the batter).

Truth iis something went wrong.
A LOT of that is down to the welfare state (Number 1 provider / baby daddy in the modern world - replacing the role of man), feminism/witchy/nasty women (enabled by wesstern benefits and legal systems), and feckless/useless men lacking honour, sense of responsibility (via playboy / hippy culture etc).

IMHO financial interests & their social engineers did a job on us - divide to conquer:
Atomise the family, get the women in the workforce (lower wages for all & also contributing tax) and children into nurseries and dchools ASAP (so they can be indoctrinated in woke, DEI and other BS that perpetuates the aforementioned problems).

Divorce rates aren't as super high as we often assume - you'll often meet serial divorcees (usually men seeking being mothered) and they account for a LOT of the divorce stats.

As you say, Thailand might make casual sex easier, but it does not replace trust, companionship and building something together.

I read the OP more as a clever piece of satire than a serious argument. A mix of dating, politics, feminism, belief and the usual forum calculations.

And yes, casual sex may be easier in Thailand, but it does not replace trust, companionship and building something together.

3 hours ago, emptypockets said:

It would be interesting to see an original thought from you that hasn't been copied and pasted.

Impossible. She is not capable of producing any intelligible sounding material independently. Her posts consistently read like AI generated summaries or content reproduced from external sources, yet no attribution, references, or supporting evidence are ever provided. Readers are simply expected to accept the information at face value.

Content presented as factual should not be permitted anywhere on this site unless the source is clearly identified and available for verification. When claims are published without citations, there is no way to assess their accuracy, context, or credibility.

In my view, much of what she posts is little more than useless conjecture, speculation, and lazily copied and pasted cyber babble presented in an authoritative tone. Whether the material originates from Google AI or some other external source, the underlying problem remains the same: unsourced information is repeatedly presented as fact.

The issue is not merely the lack of quality of the content. It is that unsupported assertions are being published without any requirement for evidence, attribution, or accountability. Frankly, I am surprised this kind of material is permitted to be repeatedly posted by her as though it carries any authority or informational value.