I say definitely yes, sick of those scummies who often end up causing trouble.

France agrees

No it's fascism. I want to see nude people.

If they did this, along with all the traffic offenses daily, they wouldn't be able to afford anything. Almost every time you see someone arrested, they have no shirt on, and it's both foreigners and locals, although not wearing a shirt near the beach or waterways is acceptable. Anywhere else it's wrong.

YES, YES, YES..........

...................unless you are on the beach or on a beach front road.......

In London last week (I know that's not in Thailand)........... the number of 'men' going topless....everywhere....was ****ing ridiculous.

I'm for equality. Both guys and girls should be able to go topless. That law was passed in NYC in 1992 but few women go topless. The ones that do could beat ya to a pulp!

26 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

not wearing a shirt near the beach or waterways is acceptable

Ok, so strolling around shirtless in Bangkok by the side of Chao Phraya promenade project, when finished, will be totally fine, right? 🤣

Edited June 27Jun 27 by Gottfrid

Yes.

Fine the men Bt.10,000 first time.

Then expel from Thailand, for good, after the second infraction.

Only slim and trim women should be permitted to go topless in Thailand, or in other countries.

This is the MAIN REASON I never go to the beach.

Too many topless men walking around.

17 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I'm for equality. Both guys and girls should be able to go topless. That law was passed in NYC in 1992 but few women go topless. The ones that do could beat ya to a pulp!

I agree with NYC statute.

If men can go topless, then so can women.

Just logical.

53 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Should Thailand fine men for going topless in public?

Yes, need to start with the old topless foreigners walking briskly with their manboobs bouncing up and down on Jomtien Beach road every morning

Edited June 27Jun 27 by SAFETY FIRST

11 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Ok, so strolling around shirtless in Bangkok by the side of Chao Phraya promenade project, when finished, will be totally fine, right? 🤣

Beach and waterways means places where there are beaches, or on boats, swimming in rivers, lakes, canals. Most anyone would understand what I meant. If there was legal swimming allowed there, it would be fine not wearing a shirt. People go shirtless next to the Hudson River in NYC with the same environment if it's also designated park. If not a park, then no.Walking through Bangkok proper is also a no.

22 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Ok, so strolling around shirtless in Bangkok by the side of Chao Phraya promenade project, when finished, will be totally fine, right? 🤣

8 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

People go shirtless next to the Hudson River in NYC

Those New-Yorkers will do almost anything.

But, that does not mean we should follow-suit.

Oh, wait, is that a pun?

7 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Beach and waterways means places where there are beaches, or on boats, swimming in rivers, lakes, canals. Most anyone would understand what I meant. If there was legal swimming allowed there, it would be fine not wearing a shirt. People go shirtless next to the Hudson River in NYC with the same environment if it's also designated park. If not a park, then no.Walking through Bangkok proper is also a no.

Nah, not entirely right! You don´t get to change factual meanings into what you assume they mean to you. Look below! Glad we could establish that fact. Have a nice day. Nothing more to discuss.

43 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Ok, so strolling around shirtless in Bangkok by the side of Chao Phraya promenade project, when finished, will be totally fine, right?

Not more than 1 or two blocks from the beach. 🫣

2 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

Not more than 1 or two blocks from the beach. 🫣

Yeah, that´s kind of my opinion too. It´s ok, like on the beach in Pattaya, if you need to run over beach road and run to the toilet. However, if you run over from the beach into 7 Eleven you should put on a shirt first. That´s just a normal built-in form of respect and dignity.

9 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Nah, not entirely right! You don´t get to change factual meanings into what you assume they mean to you. Look below! Glad we could establish that fact. Have a nice day. Nothing more to discuss.

If that area is a designated park, going shirtless would be okay. People do it here anywhere, so it means nothing anyway. In a more civilized, enforced country, you wouldn't be allowed to wear <deleted>s just anywhere. As I said, waterways, where swimming are allowed are places where going shirtless would be fine.

What you didn't understand is that waterways have areas where going shirtless would not be right and proper, meaning outside of parks. That's why I posted about the Hudson River in NYC.

Thailand is lenient towards many things that wouldn't be allowed in the west, hence it's reputation as a sex capital. The question was, should Thailand fine people for going shirtless in public, and there lies the situational differences. That this will ever happen, along with many other ideas they come up with, is uncertain at best.

I knew about The Chao Phraya River decades ago, knowing it has many large stingrays and catfish in it, and that it's connected to The Gulf of Thailand. .

12 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

Not more than 1 or two blocks from the beach. 🫣

Sorry, but being an Englishman, I do not know how big a block is. Please tell me, thanks.

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

If that area is a designated park, going shirtless would be okay. People do it here anywhere, so it means nothing anyway. In a more civilized, enforced country, you wouldn't be allowed to wear <deleted>s just anywhere. As I said, waterways, where swimming are allowed are places where going shirtless would be fine.

What you didn't understand is that waterways have areas where going shirtless would not be right and proper, meaning outside of parks. That's why I posted about the Hudson River in NYC.

Thailand is lenient towards many things that wouldn't be allowed in the west, hence it's reputation as a sex capital. The question was, should Thailand fine people for going shirtless in public, and there lies the situational differences. That this will ever happen, along with many other ideas they come up with, is uncertain at best.

I knew about The Chao Phraya River decades ago, knowing it has many large stingrays and catfish in it, and that it's connected to The Gulf of Thailand. .

Like I said. Fact is fact. Nothing more to discuss.

It is a class thing, not a body thing, when people show off their body. My favourite is the overweight guy in a Chang tank top, with hairy, sweaty, smelly armpits and hair sticking out everywhere.

24 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Nah, not entirely right! You don´t get to change factual meanings into what you assume they mean to you. Look below! Glad we could establish that fact. Have a nice day. Nothing more to discuss.

Doesn't say much about swimming, does it? Seems you're feeling obstinate, as usual, and you haven't established any facts at all...just arguments for the sake of arguing. .

28 minutes ago, wil iam not said:

Sorry, but being an Englishman, I do not know how big a block is. Please tell me, thanks.

In Eastbourne the Promenade is OK but the Royal Parade is too far. 😜

Edited June 27Jun 27 by VocalNeal

32 minutes ago, Hummin said:

It is a class thing, not a body thing, when people show off their body. My favourite is the overweight guy in a Chang tank top, with hairy, sweaty, smelly armpits and hair sticking out everywhere.

So you have seen me in bed with the Mrs? 5-5-5

The law is done with a sensible approach,.

Problem in Thailand is that with all the crooked and corrupt officers and bureaucrats, any very good law, can be misued to extort tea money from the falangs.

if ya wannt skin cancer go ahead

I say no.

It's actually a pretty handy way of identifying who to avoid. Nothing quite says "low class tw@t" like wandering around a town centre or shopping area without a shirt on.

There are other practical aspects too. Wander down many of the smaller sois and you'll often see an elderly local Thai chap, sarong on, pottering around outside his home fixing something or sweeping up. That's completely different from groups of tourists strutting through 7-Eleven or shopping malls half naked. Any law would inevitably have to be selective.

And of course the beach is different. On the sand, or by the pool, take your top off, nobody cares. But once you cross the road into shops, restaurants or convenience stores, putting a shirt on is just basic courtesy - there's a 'common sense line'.

Most people already understand this without needing legislation. That's why I find these kinds of bans rather unnecessary. If France wants one, that's their choice, but it's a strange use of the law when societies have far bigger problems than men walking around without shirts. Common sense generally works better than another layer of authoritarian rule.

1 hour ago, wil iam not said:

Sorry, but being an Englishman, I do not know how big a block is. Please tell me, thanks.

Beach side of the road - OK.....

Town side of a road running along the beach - not OK....

Laying down in park, middle of a heatwave in the summer - OK (though I wouldn't)

As soon as any 'built up area' with AC, Indoors, shops or market etc are neared - not OK....

There doesn't need to be any laws on this - its basic common decency and common sense - everyone knows, those who go topless in area's that most of us consider inappropriate already know they are being inappropriate, they just don't care - but its hardly a 'finable' offence.

Yes, yes, yes

However, those druggies or drunkards will complain of (stinking) and/or sweating. So air flow has to blow it away.

Restaurants should have strict rules: no shirt (of course a "muscle shirt" is not a proper shirt) no food❗

3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

I say definitely yes, sick of those scummies who often end up causing trouble.

But that's like saying everyone with tattoos causes trouble.

The reason to ban it is because Thais probably find it offensive, apart from on the beach or parks.

2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

But that's like saying everyone with tattoos causes trouble.

Agreed.

2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

The reason to ban it is because Thais probably find it offensive, apart from on the beach or parks.

That's the nuance many people miss.

Thais generally don't find shirtlessness inherently offensive. Wander through countless backstreets and sub-sois and you'll see older local men in sarongs, often shirtless It's an entirely normal sight.

The issue isn't whether someone has a shirt on, it's where they don't.

Most people, Thai or foreign, instinctively know the difference between a residential lane, a beach or poolside, and walking into a shopping area, restaurant or 7-Eleven. The problem is that some foreigners simply ignore those social cues.

It's no different to taking your shoes off before entering a small shop when there's a pile of footwear outside the door.

Nobody needs a law explaining it. You see what's appropriate, you show a bit of respect, and you get on with your day.

The irritation isn't caused by bare chests. It's caused by the combination of carelessness, arrogance and a refusal to read the room. That's what winds some people up, not the absence of a T-shirt itself.

7 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

But that's like saying everyone with tattoos causes trouble.

The reason to ban it is because Thais probably find it offensive, apart from on the beach or parks.

You can generalise and it's generally right, most farang you see causing trouble lately are tattooed or no shirt or both

2 hours ago, ColeBOzbourne said:

Doesn't say much about swimming, does it? Seems you're feeling obstinate, as usual, and you haven't established any facts at all...just arguments for the sake of arguing. .

I think understanding was not the best of capabilities in school, right? Below you have the initial post I quoted on. Does it stand anything about swimming there? I can help you! The answer is NO. What it stands is a separation of beaches and waterways. Wake up Cole!

4 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

If they did this, along with all the traffic offenses daily, they wouldn't be able to afford anything. Almost every time you see someone arrested, they have no shirt on, and it's both foreigners and locals, although not wearing a shirt near the beach or waterways is acceptable. Anywhere else it's wrong.