Israel and Lebanon sign framework agreement after US-brokered talks

Israel and Lebanon have signed a framework agreement in Washington after several days of negotiations brokered by the US.

US Secretary of State Marco Rubio said the agreement will begin to put in place a framework for lasting peace and security.

It comes as limited fighting has continued between Israeli forces and the Iranian-backed Hezbollah in southern Lebanon, despite an existing ceasefire.

Hezbollah is not party to Friday's agreement .

Israel and Lebanon reach framework agreement

Hezbollah is not party to Friday's agreement, and previous ceasefires between Israel and Lebanon have still seen near-daily cross-border strikes.

Keir Starmer condemned Israel's military actions in Lebanon , turned out that the Lebanese Government supported Israel's attacks on Hezbollah in Lebanon

Israel’s attacks on Lebanon should not be happening, says Keir Starmer

Israel’s continued attacks on Lebanon “shouldn’t be happening”, Keir Starmer has said on his visit to the Middle East, as he called for the Iran conflict to become a watershed moment for the future security of the UK.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/apr/09/israel-attacks-on-lebanon-should-not-be-happening-says-keir-starmer

Papers signed in Washington under this administration have if any little value.

Israeli forces remain in Lebanon, patriotic Lebanese might justifiably feel they’re going to do something about getting them out.

I’ll go as far as to say, many certainly will.

They might choose to join Hezbollah to do so, that too is a near certainty.

Edited July 3Jul 3 by Chomper Higgot

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Papers signed in Washington under this administration have if any little value.

Israeli forces remain in Lebanon, patriotic Lebanese might justifiably feel they’re going to do something about getting them out.

I’ll go as far as to say, many certainly will.

They might choose to join Hezbollah to do so, that too is a near certainty.

Why would patriotic Lebanese want the non Lebanese Hezbolla to be in Lebannon ?

Isreal and Lebanon are uniting against the terrorists organisation Hezbollah

55 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Why would patriotic Lebanese want the non Lebanese Hezbolla to be in Lebannon ?

Isreal and Lebanon are uniting against the terrorists organisation Hezbollah

Hezbollah is a Lebanese organization, the designation of Hezbollah as a terrorist organization is not agreed by the vast majority of nations.

Taking up arms to expel an invading foreign army on your own land does not meet any definition of terrorism.

10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Hezbollah is a Lebanese organization, the designation of Hezbollah as a terrorist organization is not agreed by the vast majority of nations.

Taking up arms to expel an invading foreign army on your own land does not meet any definition of terrorism.

Hezbollah is neither supported by a majority of the Lebanese population, nor a Lebanese patriotic group. It is a focused entity that puts the shiite community and its patron, Iran first. The Shiite militia has been classified as an illegal militia by the legitimate legal government of Lebanon. The fact that neither China nor Russia nor North Korea, nor Cuba considers Hezbollah a terrorist group is irrelevant.

Although the Hezbollah political wing is still allowed, it is a minority political entity and has an ongoing presence only because of its military wing. Hezbollah has refused to allow the Lebanese government and its military to enter Hezbollah controlled sections of the country. Hezbollah fought on behalf of the despot Assad regime and operated torture facilities where Syrians were sexually abused, tortured and murdered in the tens of thousands. It propped up the Assad regime, which had previously invaded and occupied Lebanon. By that very act of treason and collaboration, it can not be considered even remotely patriotic. Anyone who supports Hezbollah is a supporter of the mass murder of hundreds of thousands of Syrians, and the torture and sexual abuse of Syrians.

Edited July 3Jul 3 by Patong2021

1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

Hezbollah is neither supported by a majority of the Lebanese population, nor a Lebanese patriotic group. It is a focused entity that puts the shiite community and its patron, Iran first. The Shiite militia has been classified as an illegal militia by the legitimate legal government of Lebanon. The fact that neither China nor Russia nor North Korea, nor Cuba considers Hezbollah a terrorist group is irrelevant.

Although the Hezbollah political wing is still allowed, it is a minority political entity and has an ongoing presence only because of its military wing. Hezbollah has refused to allow the Lebanese government and its military to enter Hezbollah controlled sections of the country. Hezbollah fought on behalf of the despot Assad regime and operated torture facilities where Syrians were sexually abused, tortured and murdered in the tens of thousands. It propped up the Assad regime, which had previously invaded and occupied Lebanon. By that very act of treason and collaboration, it can not be considered even remotely patriotic. Anyone who supports Hezbollah is a supporter of the mass murder of hundreds of thousands of Syrians, and the torture and sexual abuse of Syrians.

Do you think Lebanese citizens who take up arms to expel the foreign Israeli invading military are patriots?

Be it the Hezbollah, Hamas or other terrorist groups. They are more of an idology rather then a specific physical entity. What I mean here is that assume the entire army of Hezbollah is eliminated. Wanna bet that in a few months others far worse, will replace them. The only was to stop the absurd and murderous rivalry between Israel and such terror groups is to redraw the map of the area. How can one expect peace when Israel is expropriating territories all over the regions and expelling the long time residents in the population and tearing down their long owned homes or farms ?? America is supporting this and as long as it continues, there will only be innocent victims on all sides,

7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Hezbollah is a Lebanese organization, the designation of Hezbollah as a terrorist organization is not agreed by the vast majority of nations.

Taking up arms to expel an invading foreign army on your own land does not meet any definition of terrorism.

Thy want to expel Jews from Israel though , thats probably terrorism

Could somebody explain to me what the "Lebanese Army" consists of (manpower, armament, command structure) ?

As far as I remember the "Lebanese Army" has never played a role in Lebanon.

Does the world expect that the "Lebanese Army" will throw Hizbollah out of Libanon? I heard better jokes.

41 minutes ago, swissie said:

Could somebody explain to me what the "Lebanese Army" consists of (manpower, armament, command structure) ?

As far as I remember the "Lebanese Army" has never played a role in Lebanon.

Does the world expect that the "Lebanese Army" will throw Hizbollah out of Libanon? I heard better jokes.

Ive herd a rumour that the Lebanese army are uniting with the IDF , theres a thread about it on ASEANNOW

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Ive herd a rumour that the Lebanese army are uniting with the IDF , theres a thread about it on ASEANNOW

Well as trust me bro ' rumours go you can't beat that ! Israel is always seeking piece , a piece of Syria , a piece of Jordan a bigger piece of Palestine because the Bible says so.

2 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Well as trust me bro ' rumours go you can't beat that ! Israel is always seeking piece , a piece of Syria , a piece of Jordan a bigger piece of Palestine because the Bible says so.

Although the IDF are currently in Syria to try to stop Hezbollah bombing Israel .

Thats the situation in 2026 , what did the Bible say 2026 years ago ?

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Although the IDF are currently in Syria to try to stop Hezbollah bombing Israel .

Thats the situation in 2026 , what did the Bible say 2026 years ago ?

It said love thy neighbour as thyself - not bomb the hell out of him but his was crucified for that.

11 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Thy want to expel Jews from Israel though , thats probably terrorism

I agree, The use of violence to expel Jews from Israel is just a much terrorism as the use of violence to expel the people of Lebanon from Lebanon, the people of Palestine from Palestine both in Gaza and the West Bank.

Let’s see if you have an answer to the question I asked earlier:

Do you think Lebanese citizens who take up arms to expel the foreign Israeli invading military are patriots?

22 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Do you think Lebanese citizens who take up arms to expel the foreign Israeli invading military are patriots?

If the Lebanese are under the command and control of the legal and legitimate government of Lebanon and if they were engaged in a lawful military action defending their nation, then they would be considered to be in service of their nation. You could term them patriots. For example, this occurred when the Lebanese took up arms to push out the Syrian occupation forces and the Iranian and Syrian proxy Hezbollah did its utmost to keep the Syrians in Lebanon. This included acts of violence against the legal Lebanese government. Hezbollah cannot be termed a patriotic organization because it supported the illegal occupation of Lebanon by Syria. Your logic would hold that the Vichy French regime of General Petain was patriotic, when it was not.

You do know that Syria occupied Lebanon and that Hezbollah was a proxy of Iran and Syria don't you?

16 hours ago, swissie said:

Could somebody explain to me what the "Lebanese Army" consists of (manpower, armament, command structure) ?

As far as I remember the "Lebanese Army" has never played a role in Lebanon.

Does the world expect that the "Lebanese Army" will throw Hizbollah out of Libanon? I heard better jokes.

The occupying Syrians shrunk the Lebanese military and stripped it of its ability to defend national sovereignty. After the Cedar revolution that finally broke the brutal occupation of Lebanon, the Syrian proxy, Hezbollah acted to keep the Lebanese military weak.

13 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Well as trust me bro ' rumours go you can't beat that ! Israel is always seeking piece , a piece of Syria , a piece of Jordan a bigger piece of Palestine because the Bible says so.

What piece of Jordan has Israel sought?

What piece of Syria are you referring to? Do you mean the Golan heights where the Syrians previously stationed their artillery and rockets and would bombard israel? Syria lost it in a war it initiated. The local Druze villagers don't want the Syrians back either. This is historically Druze dominated and controlled land on both sides of the demarcation truce line. After the fall of Assad, muslim militias attacked the border areas in an attempt to depopulate and drive off the Druze. Israel intervened to protect the Druze. Would you like to see the Druze killed and exiled? How do you propose to protect the Druze and ensure their survival?

This is from AI (to confirm what I already suspected).

Attacking Iran was the first stage in neutralizing Hezbollah.

Hezbollah is a negative force in Lebanon.

1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

If the Lebanese are under the command and control of the legal and legitimate government of Lebanon and if they were engaged in a lawful military action defending their nation, then they would be considered to be in service of their nation. You could term them patriots. For example, this occurred when the Lebanese took up arms to push out the Syrian occupation forces and the Iranian and Syrian proxy Hezbollah did its utmost to keep the Syrians in Lebanon. This included acts of violence against the legal Lebanese government. Hezbollah cannot be termed a patriotic organization because it supported the illegal occupation of Lebanon by Syria. Your logic would hold that the Vichy French regime of General Petain was patriotic, when it was not.

You do know that Syria occupied Lebanon and that Hezbollah was a proxy of Iran and Syria don't you?

History suggests otherwise:

The Vichy French example you give is a perfect example.

The bravery of patriots across Europe fighting to free their countries of the Nazis despite the capitulation of their own governments who often turned their own citizens over for torture and execution provides ample examples of precisely why your argument is flawed.

I have at no time claimed Hezbollah to be a ‘patriotic organization’.

Edited July 4Jul 4 by Chomper Higgot

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

History suggests otherwise:

The bravery of patriots across Europe fighting to free their countries of the Nazis despite the capitulation of their own governments who often turned their own citizens over for torture and execution provides ample examples of precisely why your argument is flawed.

You would drop a dime on someone to save your ass. Coward.

1 minute ago, TedG said:

You would drop a dime on someone to save your ass. Coward.

Odious assertion from the usual source.

9 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Do you think Lebanese citizens who take up arms to expel the foreign Israeli invading military are patriots?

That question can't be given a meaningful answer without more context. It would be like asking, "Do you think German, Italian or Japanese citizens who took up arms during WW2 to expel the foreign U.S. invading military were patriots?"

The governments of those three countries during WW2 would certainly have considered them patriots, but not the rest of the world. German, Italian and Japanese citizens who sought to turn back the invading U.S. forces weren't acting in the best interests of their countries or people; therefore, they weren't patriots in the true sense of the word.

During WW2, U.S. forces invaded a number of countries to free them from fascism and give their people democratic governments. The purpose of the U.S. invasion was not conquest but liberation. Resisting liberation is not patriotism.

Same-same with Israel and Lebanon. The IDF has invaded Lebanon to destroy Hezbollah, the terrorist proxy of the Iranian government. It's in the best interests of Lebanon and its people to let them get the job done.

Edited July 4Jul 4 by Evil Penevil

5 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

What piece of Jordan has Israel sought?

What piece of Syria are you referring to? Do you mean the Golan heights where the Syrians previously stationed their artillery and rockets and would bombard israel? Syria lost it in a war it initiated. The local Druze villagers don't want the Syrians back either. This is historically Druze dominated and controlled land on both sides of the demarcation truce line. After the fall of Assad, muslim militias attacked the border areas in an attempt to depopulate and drive off the Druze. Israel intervened to protect the Druze. Would you like to see the Druze killed and exiled? How do you propose to protect the Druze and ensure their survival?

To be honest, I've reached the point where I've simply had it with the Zionist project and what I see as its disingenuous claims about the fundamentally benign nature of Israeli intentions. After watching the slaughter in Gaza, much of it apparently defended or supported by large sections of Israeli public opinion, I find it increasingly difficult to summon much concern for arguments about Israel's strategic anxieties or humanitarian motives. Every intervention is presented as defensive, temporary or necessary, yet the pattern over decades has left me profoundly sceptical. Others may still give the benefit of the doubt; I no longer do.I'm not alone in that either and if that makes me an anti-Semitic so be it.

On 7/3/2026 at 5:58 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

Do you think Lebanese citizens who take up arms to expel the foreign Israeli invading military are patriots?

no they are a jew hating, america hating iranian contolled terrorists. you support them

14 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I agree, The use of violence to expel Jews from Israel is just a much terrorism as the use of violence to expel the people of Lebanon from Lebanon, the people of Palestine from Palestine both in Gaza and the West Bank.

Let’s see if you have an answer to the question I asked earlier:

Do you think Lebanese citizens who take up arms to expel the foreign Israeli invading military are patriots?

No I dont think Hezbollah are patriotic to the Lebanese cause , they are patriotic to the Islamic cause of defeating Judaism

3 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

To be honest, I've reached the point where I've simply had it with the Zionist project and what I see as its disingenuous claims about the fundamentally benign nature of Israeli intentions. After watching the slaughter in Gaza, much of it apparently defended or supported by large sections of Israeli public opinion, I find it increasingly difficult to summon much concern for arguments about Israel's strategic anxieties or humanitarian motives. Every intervention is presented as defensive, temporary or necessary, yet the pattern over decades has left me profoundly sceptical. Others may still give the benefit of the doubt; I no longer do.I'm not alone in that either and if that makes me an anti-Semitic so be it.

You made multiple claims, none of which you cannot substantiate.

You now use the Gazan initiated conflict to justify what is in effect just another of your jew /israeli hate diatribes. The takeaway is that you do not care about any of the war victims and are just using this as an opportunity to engage in some "zionist" aka juden bashing. The pattern over the decades has been that arabs start wars, lose and then play the victim. As time has passed, most of the Arab world has moved on and found away to co-exist with Israel. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said about westerners who still hold onto their bigotry and hatreds. Failed states in the region cling to the israel trope because it serves as a distraction from their failure to progress. If the mullahs Iran did not have Israel and the USA to attack they would have to answer for the failed economy, and ersoion of civil liberties in a despotic state. Assad managed to do that for decades until his regime collapsed. The Arab world knows you don't really care and they see your true intentions.

4 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

To be honest, I've reached the point where I've simply had it with the Zionist project and what I see as its disingenuous claims about the fundamentally benign nature of Israeli intentions. After watching the slaughter in Gaza, much of it apparently defended or supported by large sections of Israeli public opinion, I find it increasingly difficult to summon much concern for arguments about Israel's strategic anxieties or humanitarian motives. Every intervention is presented as defensive, temporary or necessary, yet the pattern over decades has left me profoundly sceptical. Others may still give the benefit of the doubt; I no longer do.I'm not alone in that either and if that makes me an anti-Semitic so be it.

Gary thinks that its worse than the 85 000 Yemen Children that died from war related issues ??

Yemen crisis: 85,000 children 'dead from malnutrition'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-46261983

9 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

No I dont think Hezbollah are patriotic to the Lebanese cause , they are patriotic to the Islamic cause of defeating Judaism

Nick dodges a very simple question… again.

13 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

That question can't be given a meaningful answer without more context. It would be like asking, "Do you think German, Italian or Japanese citizens who took up arms during WW2 to expel the foreign U.S. invading military were patriots?"

The governments of those three countries during WW2 would certainly have considered them patriots, but not the rest of the world. German, Italian and Japanese citizens who sought to turn back the invading U.S. forces weren't acting in the best interests of their countries or people; therefore, they weren't patriots in the true sense of the word.

During WW2, U.S. forces invaded a number of countries to free them from fascism and give their people democratic governments. The purpose of the U.S. invasion was not conquest but liberation. Resisting liberation is not patriotism.

Same-same with Israel and Lebanon. The IDF has invaded Lebanon to destroy Hezbollah, the terrorist proxy of the Iranian government. It's in the best interests of Lebanon and its people to let them get the job done.

Putting aside the fact Hezbollah was founded in direct opposition to an Israeli invasion of Lebanon, I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone deny that the Germans, Italians and Japanese who fought the allies in defense of their own homeland were not patriots. Allied force veterans of that war frequently spoke of their respect for these fighters.

Equating the mixed motives of U.S. forces in WW2 to the Israeli invasion and land grab within Lebanon is a strange one. Israel is not seeking to ‘liberate’ Lebanon, it’s engaged in an expansionist war in furtherance of the ‘Greater Israel’ project.

I like that other WW2 analogy, the French Resistance fighters in Vichy France who fought the invading Nazis despite being hunted by and turned over to the Nazis by their own collaborating Government.

Edited July 5Jul 5 by Chomper Higgot