This is a Retired Met Police officer and a Whistleblower. You cannot ignore what she says about the Met Police or Mayor Kahn.

14 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

This is why Sadiq Kahn must be removed as the Mayor of London.

Watching one year old GB News videos and self radicalising again.

Interesting that they didn't show his answers: https://youtu.be/noJCNh60lfk?t=161

And he has welcomed an independent inquiry.

https://www.itv.com/news/london/2026-06-24/khan-grooming-gangs-inquiry-focus-on-london-must-leave-no-stone-unturned

He'll be removed when Londoners vote for someone else, but for now they are very happy with him.

Even the Speaker of the Lords had enough Waffle from a labour minister refusing to answer a question of why is labour letting Rapists and sex attackers out early and only comes out with the usual escuse " Its not labours fault it was the party before " This minister was asked how many have been released early or will be released, the labour minister refused to give out figures.

2 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I don't think restricting Pakistanis from Kashmir would make much difference. The solution is in attitudes and policing by the Pakistani community themselves. Dunno, is that woke?

Actually, this is not in any way a political issue. Are any other crimes treated so? It's an awareness issue which could be solved by community policing as well as the basic steps I've mentioned above.

Kashmir is not special. It all flows back to the caste and panchyat systems in India that predate Pakistan.

I have written to Baroness Casey at the House of Lords with my suggestions for the protection of girls in the community and regarding allowing the Pakistani community to police its own.

All these men have mothers, sisters and perhaps wives. All of them would be so ashamed to know of their sons', brothers', husbands' involvement. Muslim women in Britain are not afraid of speaking up on a widespread crime from their community. Let them act and see where it goes.

Does Baroness Casey have any influence to govt action?

Not much about parental responsibility here except for fathers committing incest, the parents don't seem to have had much control over their daughters. Mother's didn't appear to have reported their daughter's rape. Daughters seem to have returned to the same rapists day after day, perhaps due to parental neglect.

How about parents being part of the problem?

On 6/30/2026 at 7:15 PM, unblocktheplanet said:

Another factor not mentioned in these reports is sex education in schools. It should be explicit, graphic and real. Kids can see all those body parts on the Internet, anyway. You’re not protecting them by not really giving them the facts of life. Not rolling a rubber onto a banana!

Sex education should begin around age eight because many girls will start to menstruate at age 10. They should be prepared when boys or men start to come on to them.

Birth control instruction should be a strong part of sex ed. Condoms should be available for free, birth control pills and morning after if the student requests it.

This will no doubt cause community outrage. They’d rather see their daughters raped.

You may think this goes too far. If girls were educated, there would have been fewer victims in Rotherham, Telford and Rochdale.

"If girls were educated, there would have been fewer victims in Rotherham, Telford and Rochdale."

I can't believe you wrote that garbage, it makes ZERO sense!

This Beast is to be released today charged with over 30 offences for Raping girls as young as 12. Burnham at least now is demanding his removal from the UK. In his words he has written to the Home secretary and justice minister to send him back to Pakistan by all means possible.

7 hours ago, Purdey said:

Not much about parental responsibility here except for fathers committing incest, the parents don't seem to have had much control over their daughters. Mother's didn't appear to have reported their daughter's rape. Daughters seem to have returned to the same rapists day after day, perhaps due to parental neglect.

How about parents being part of the problem?

Sure. But that's why schools and teachers need to protect their students. That job doesn't end when the bell rings for real teachers. See my suggestions above.

6 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

"If girls were educated, there would have been fewer victims in Rotherham, Telford and Rochdale."

I can't believe you wrote that garbage, it makes ZERO sense!

And why is that your opinion???

15 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

And why is that your opinion???

Once again you make ZERO sense.

You don't elucidate on your bizarre claim, you ask why is that my opinion???

In logic, discussion, and good-faith debate, the burden of proof (or burden of explanation) lies with the person making the positive assertion or claim.

I am very happy to give my reasoning, AFTER you have given yours!

1 hour ago, mikeymike100 said:

Once again you make ZERO sense.

You don't elucidate on your bizarre claim, you ask why is that my opinion???

In logic, discussion, and good-faith debate, the burden of proof (or burden of explanation) lies with the person making the positive assertion or claim.

I am very happy to give my reasoning, AFTER you have given yours!

"If girls were educated, there would have been fewer victims in Rotherham, Telford and Rochdale." As well as all my other suggestions regarding the basic don't-talk-to-strangers aso. I've made my suggestions very clearn And you call them garbage. Yeah, ehy?

5 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

"If girls were educated, there would have been fewer victims in Rotherham, Telford and Rochdale." As well as all my other suggestions regarding the basic don't-talk-to-strangers aso. I've made my suggestions very clearn And you call them garbage. Yeah, ehy?

What i said was garbage was....."If girls were educated, there would have been fewer victims in Rotherham, Telford and Rochdale.".

"Education for girls" as the key factor is a very weak explanation here, hence the garbage.

Many victims were school-age teens already in the education system (or known to services).

The core issues were predation on vulnerability, grooming tactics, institutional neglect, and cultural/attitudinal failures around reporting and enforcement — not a broad lack of female education in the UK.

These were young girls, not college educated women!

Child grooming, child sexual exploitation and child rape cannot be solely blamed on immigrants. France has 9M immigrants, of 69M population. 100k+ are Pakistani. 5-6M Muslims live in France.

However, it is not the immigrants who are the predators in France.

The 2023 report of The Independent Commission on Incest and Sexual Violence Against Children (CIIVISE) in France provides great detail.

According to Civiise, a child is sexually abused every three minutes in France. The scale of the crisis is staggering, yet it has never been treated as the national emergency that it is.

Police, judges and even physicians are afraid to speak out. Precisely as in the UK.

The commission's findings showed that 160,000 children are victims of sexual violence every year in France, and 5,400,000 adults have suffered such abuse in childhood

▪ 10% of the French population has been a victim of incest.
▪ 160,000 children are victims of sexual violence annually, equivalent to 3 per school class.
▪ 75% confide in their mother, 19% in siblings, and 15% in their father.
▪ In only 1% of cases is there evidence or a witness; in the remaining 99%, it is the child’s word against the adult’s.
▪ 79% of healthcare professionals fail to link psychological trauma with sexual violence.
▪ Only 5% of reports are made by physicians, largely due to fear of disciplinary sanctions from the Medical Council.
▪ 83% of raped children are girls. In 67% of cases, incest results in pregnancy, with two-thirds ending in abortion.
▪ Children with disabilities are significantly more vulnerable, given regular physical handling for care routines, making it harder to distinguish abusive contact.

Last year, France witnessed the trial in one of the largest child sexual abuse cases in its modern history. Joël Le Scouarnec, a former surgeon, admitted to sexually abusing children for decades, with about 300 victims.

In French, the very etymology of the word for child is revealing: the term enfant derives from the Latin infans, literally meaning “one who does not speak”. Yet children have always spoken about the violence inflicted upon them. What has too often been lacking is not their voice, but society’s willingness to listen. Childhood remains socially defined by a lack of power and agency, and it is time for that to change.

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Not just the UK. This is not acceptable in any culture, any country!

A 36-year-old Turkish migrant under a deportation order was sentenced to 6 months in prison after sexually assaulting a teenage girl on a beach in Trouville-sur-Mer, France.

After lifeguards asked swimmers to return to shore for safety, the girl, who was wearing a burkini and standing in chest-deep water, said the man approached her, claiming he wanted to help escort her back to the beach.

She said she refused, but he insisted, grabbed her buttocks with one hand and her breast with the other, then returned after she pushed him away, grabbed her head, and touched her intimate parts. Her cousin raised the alarm before lifeguards and police intervened.

The man had been in France since 2023 and was already under a French deportation order requiring him to leave the country, which remains enforceable until 2028. He told the court he had fled Türkiye as a Kurd and had applied for asylum.

His lawyer sought an acquittal, arguing there was a significant cultural difference between France and Türkiye and that he did not understand French social norms and boundaries.

The court rejected that argument, sentenced him to six months in prison, ordered him to remain in custody, and placed him on France's sex offender registry.

On 6/30/2026 at 8:22 AM, unblocktheplanet said:

I don’t know how many of yourhave read these three reports in their entirety. No one would ever defend rapists. But comparatively speaking, these are brutal but only a small percentage of all rapes and CSE in the UK.

That many of the rapists are of Pakistani-heritage gives wind to the sails of racism. And raises the question of why?

There is a certain salacious titillation around, well, sex, no matter who or how. This issue is no different. You can be outraged and turned on at the same time, you know. They’re not exclusive concepts.

For the purpose of the reports, a “child” is anyone under the age of 16. The reason that I delved into these reports so deeply is that I wanted to understand the true situation because there are so many concerns born in racism that I wanted to set the record straight.

I don’t think you’ll have a full picture unless you read all of this post. It took me more than a day to get through each report but I really wanted to understand without all the sensationalism. These each are hundreds of pages. There are numerous other reports which I did not access cited in the references. The emphasis of the two government-sponsored reports was how to mitigate this situation of child-rape through police, agencies, social workers aso. It is my opinion that many of the offenders should also be offered counseling in prison to avoid re-offending recidivism.

I have now read all three reports on ‘rape gangs’. The 1) Alexis Jay Rotherham CSE report (1997-2013) 169p; the 2) Casey Report (June 2025); and the 3) Lowe crowdfunded report (2026). The 4) David Greenwood dossier (2026) was not available to me despite its request.

I mostly paraphrase from each report. but Baroness Louise Casey’s opinions are so succinct as to be worth repeating. And so are Rupert Lowe's.

The Alexis Jay Rotherham CSE report (1997-2013), cost £ 5 million

1) 1,400 children were abused in a 16 year period. A large percentage were minority children. Yes, the police ignored many of these cases but, overall, that’s common in all rape cases. Police, in general, doubt the veracity of the victims so the victims, whether child or adult, are reluctant to report or testify just to be scorned by police. “Victims are often hesitant to report due to shame, fear, mistrust, not being believed, and humiliation, as well as real or perceived intimidation. Victims also fear violent reprisals by their rapists for talking to the police. Cultural stereotypes, racism, shame, stigma, and gender expectations hinder the identification, disclosure, and response to child sexual abuse in some minority communities.” 

 

In addition, for those under 18, there was concern over being put in care, group homes,…and still remain vulnerable to their rapists, in the care home or at school. There are 58,000 children in Rotherham, including infants. It is also notable is that there were only 250,000 residents of the District during this period, thus 1,400 children is a significant number.

Despite the fact that there was full knowledge of CSE by 2005 (or even in the mid-1990s), authorities failed to act upon the evidence provided by victims and, yes, some of that was fear of being labeled ‘racist’, a valid career-ending concern.

Councillors did not engage directly or indirectly with the Pakistani-heritage community to discuss how best they could jointly address the issue. This was a giant mistake. Certainly any of the families aware of men’s involvement in rape would have cooperated. 

Just because they’re Pakis doesn’t mean they’re stupid or not compassionate of children. Pakistani families are decent people who simply cannot be blamed for the actions of these men.

A great many of the girls were runaways, truants or coming from neglectful family situations. Safe travel, safe houses, witness protection and other measures were implemented. “One young person told us that ‘gang rape’ was a usual part of growing up in the area of Rotherham in which she lived.” She did not specify Pakistanis.

There were arrests, prosecutions, convictions and acquittals as was to be expected. Those acquitted certainly suffered community shame whether they really were guilty or not.

There was also one prosecution for the grooming rape of young boys which resulted in conviction and sentence. There is no suggestion this predator was anything other than White.

The report concerns children who have already been raped. The prevention plan in place may not be sufficient.

The Casey report does not address adult rape in Rotherham during this period which, I believe, would have great bearing in findings of community attitudes and standards.

2) Baroness Louise Casey tells it like it is, for £280,000. No sanitised CSE:

“We are talking about multiple sexual assaults committed against children by multiple men on multiple occasions; beatings and gang rapes. Girls having to have abortions, contracting sexually transmitted infections, having children removed from them at birth. 

“What makes child sexual exploitation particularly reprehensible, is that is consists of both formal and informal groups of men preying on girls, coercing, manipulating and deceiving them in pursuit of sexual gratification and power. Their victims often have a range of things that make them vulnerable in addition to their young age; they might be in care, have a physical or mental disability, have already suffered neglect or abuse in earlier years. Their predators see them as ideal victims, ready to be tricked into thinking they are loved, worthy of their attention – before turning that against them. 

“That is why I want the legislation on rape tightened up so that an adult having penetrative sex with a child under 16 is rape, no excuses, no defence. I believe many jaws across the country would drop if it was widely known that doing so is called anything but that…some groups argue that the age of consent should be lowered.”

We all know that teenage girls are exploring what it means to love and be loved. Those who come from disjointed family situations seek affection wherever it may be found.  7.5% of UK adults report that they suffered home-based child sexual abuse before age 16, 500,000 per year, making them far more vulnerable to predators. 

Note that the age mentioned here is 16, not 18, as in many countries. Is a girl of 16 able to make sexual decisions for herself, for instance, condom use. Casey reports that groups targeting girls is  “rare” and “ethnicity should have no bearing”.

“Between 1989 and 1995, almost 4,000 police cautions were given to children between 10 and 18 for offences relating to prostitution.”

“Pakistani or Muslim communities needlessly suffer as those with malicious intent use this obfuscation to sow and spread hatred.” …It is rare, but is one of the most horrendous crimes in our society: it involves multiple perpetrators coercing, manipulating and deceiving children into sex, to create an illusion of consent. 

“While public attitudes have shifted and children who used to be called ‘child prostitutes’ are now understood to be victims of child sexual exploitation, there continues to be an awkwardness in society with acknowledging and discussing child sexual abuse and there remains a tendency to apportion blame to adolescent children for their own abuse.“

Wild girls, promiscuous, uncontrollable, runaways. Anyone who’s raised a teenage girl can identify with this and feel responsible for the upbringing that created her. Maybe it didn’t, maybe sexual exploration is just part of finding herself. But the gang aspect is one I doubt any girl would choose.

“ • Around 500,000 children a year are likely to experience child sexual abuse (of any kind). However, for the vast majority, their abuse is not identified, and it is not reported to the police either at the time or later. 

• “Police recorded crime data shows just over 100,000 offences of child sexual abuse and exploitation recorded in 2024, with around 60% of these being contact offences (and the remainder online offences). 

• “Of these contact offences, an estimated 17,100 are ‘flagged’ by police as child sexual exploitation in police recorded crime data. 

• “The only figure on group-based child sexual exploitation comes from a new police dataset (called the Complex and Organised Child Abuse Dataset - COCAD) which, while suffering a number of limitations, has identified around 700 recorded offences of group-based child sexual exploitation in 2023.“

700 per year is an astounding figure! No excuse exploiting these 700 girls. This is 700 victims who deserve our compassion. However, it should be borne in mind that there are 3.9 to 4.1 million adolescent girls in the UK of all ethnicities. One of the things not mentioned is whether only White girls have been targeted. You don’t know, I don’t know, and it is unlisted in the reports which should know: “from a variety of ethnic backgrounds” is mentioned. “The [police] purpose is largely aimed at avoiding criminalising someone who reasonably believed a child was older than they were or criminalising relationships between teenagers.” 

Just “27,300 crimes of child sexual abuse recorded in 2013. In the eleven years since, recording of child sexual abuse has risen by 276%. Many girls are passed to male relatives, cousins or brothers, or to work colleagues. Some girls are turned out as prostitutes, even into legal brothels.

Most girls exploited are between 10 and 15 years old. 39% of the perpetrators also are 10 to 15 years old! 52% are under 18. Does equivalent age make sex more or less consensual? In part, I argue that pornography is responsible for much of this child-on-child offending. What 8-year old gets hard and tries to rape a 7-year old girl (USA)? 

18% are 18 to 29. All these cases include two or more perpetrators.Who are these other 58%? The “White British, Gypsies, Roma, Travellers”? Offenders are listed as Albanian, Kurdish, Bangladeshi, Indian, Turkish, Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Afghani, Kuwaiti, Somali, Moroccan, Eastern European, Romanian, Pakistani…and Nigerian! 

It is unlikely that any greater extent of child-rape has occurred in any of these countries, though we know of very early child marriage in some of these immigrant communities. So why does this form of abuse happen in the UK? 

In the public mind, all child rapists are Pakistani, obviously untrue. Nor does it seem to have anything to doing with being Muslim or not. Rape is rape. When news photos accompany articles in which ethnicity is not mentioned, many child rapists are White.

“The other group-based offences were categorised as familial (26%), institutional such as churches, schools and sports clubs (9%), other (39%) or unknown (9%).

“Grooming gangs are often loosely interconnected, based around existing social connections and so are often broadly homogenous in age, ethnic background and socioeconomic status. Acting in a group likely has a disinhibiting effect on the perpetrators, while misogyny or 'othering' allows them to disregard victims.”

A common misperception is that no perpetrators have been convicted and sentenced. This is patently untrue: one child rapist got 490 years.

A factor which applies to any crime is the motivation of the offender(s). This also seems to be unexplored.

3) The “Lowe report”, The Rape Gang Inquiry Report, cost £600,000

I have regarded this final report as least reliable. Crowd-sourcing and crowd-funding donations often have an agenda and result in mind. Perhaps I’m wrong but it is certainly the most sensational of the three.

It throws the entire weight of rape gangs on immigration, i.e., racism, as opposed to “decent, hard-working Britons”. It says much that the report mentions Elon Musk’s and Tommy Robinson’s (described as a “national activist) contributions! And that’s supposed ro be believable testimony?

Actually, after reading this entire report, I conclude that it is so biased, so sensational, that it deserves to be discarded completely and rely of the two previous, more sensible and forthright reports.

Rupert Lowe, MP, is padding his political career. “At the very least, 250,000 young white girls have been subjected to forced Islamic conversion” and “trafficked to Kashmir”! What a pile of stinking manure! Is this “White” girl who they and all their brothers have enjoyed now being introduced to Mama as his bride, the only possible reason for Islamic conversion.

Think this White girl is blissfully happy to don the hijab and stay at home under her in-laws’ thumb? Think Mama will accept a White bride? Not a chance—Muslims marry within their own community. Rupert goes on to say how he knows this: 87% of convicted rapists “bore distinctively Muslim names”. Awesome methodology, Mr. Holmes!

“Some girls were even trafficked to the Middle East, where they would endure Islamic marriage.” Rupert, you sure test my gullibility! And then this guy goes on to blame the Quran. FFS!

Not only does Rupert blame Muslims in particular, and Pakistanis as a community, but also demonises UK politicians who have Middle Eastern backgrounds.

The rapists “discussed fears that the English Defence League (EDL) would arrive armed, so they kept baseball bats for protection. They also allegedly spoke of attending EDL demonstrations with weapons.” Oooooh…

The ‘witness’ testimony is where Lowe glows. Some of the stories do not ring of truth. But who knows. Here we have Indians added to the ethnic mix. Perhaps this Indian was Muslim, too. 

STDs had been omitted from previous reports but Lowe found his witness with “chlamydia in her throat and vagina, gonorrhea, genital warts, and pelvic inflammatory disease “. When she was returned home, she was subjected “to full cavity searches”. WTF! Not many parents would have this level of concern for their child. “Raped with objects…including a soft drink can, keys and a baseball bat.” !!! Yeah, right, Rupert.

“Fiona was also forced to traffic drugs. Drugs, intimidation, and violence were used to control her. She was made to clean up the knives from the scene of two fatal stabbings. She was present during a shootout. Her abusers bragged to her that they had hidden dead bodies in a certain location. A few days later, Fiona recalls the news reporting on a body being recovered from the same location that the abusers had disclosed to her. As a result, threats of violence carried enormous weight.” Yep.

“At 14, Fiona was abused by a man known as ‘Rambo,’ castrated in Pakistan as punishment for child abuse” but he strill managed sexual torture of two girls. “In total, she estimates she was abused by between 50 and 100 men. Of those, only two were not Pakistani.” That’s a helluva lot of Pakistani rapists.

“Whitney’s daughter told her there was a ‘sex room’ at school run by the older boys.” Really? And no adult noticed this for how long?!? She “sometimes returned home with items of clothing missing”. “She would return home without underwear.” 

One girl was reportedly given an 8-year sentence for lying about her rape. And then there are the “women groomers” to befriend girls for the boys to have some fun.  “…taken into secure care where she was subjected to further abuse, including sexual abuse by staff and other children. “Charged with intent to supply Class A drugs, Scarlett was placed in a unit run entirely by male Muslim staff where she was groomed again. 

Don’t forget about the boys, eh. They were raped by family members, their mothers’ boyfriends and even biker gangs. One boy was prostituted out to “estate agents, solicitors, care support workers for children, and even police officers. Even at boarding school, Sebastian was raped, assaulted, and groomed by staff and connected adults.” All male child rape was by White Brits. Think this is intended as a jab at LGBLT supporters? And then he became “a trans man”! Seriously!

“They were taught that witches in Pakistan are blonde, so blondes are more evil.” “I was told that according to their faith community, girls are old enough for sex when they start their periods (at age eleven). Many of us had to endure the sexual act of ‘thighing’ [Arabic mufākhadhah] which I’m now told is a religiously-sanctioned way of molesting children according to some Islamic scriptures. (You have to lie down on your back with your legs straight together, and they straddle you and <deleted> between your thighs).” Do you genuinely find this believable?

 “One of the brothers was convicted of sexual assault and, as he was taken into custody, shouted ‘Allahu Akbar’”. “Before they raped me, they would chant, Bismillah Hir Rahman Nir Rahim.” Meaning: to seek Allah's blessings before starting any permissible daily action. “All of the sexual abuse that I experienced was linked to spiritual abuse or religious abuse.” Does that sound like foreplay to you?!?

“On two occasions her mother took her to a woman’s house. There the woman used a knitting needle to perform the abortions. The woman’s husband also raped her.” Yep, sure, after an abortion. “At seventeen, she was groomed by a 55-year-old police sergeant. He knew her background and claimed that he would catch her attacker and get justice for her. Instead, one evening he offered to take her out of the house and raped her. He went on to rape her on another occasion.”

“On one occasion, after she reported her kidnapping to the police, she was interviewed by a Muslim officer who switched off the tape recorder and instructed her to drop her allegations because of “lack of evidence.” She later learned that this officer was imprisoned for child sex offences.”

“Jane’s mother’s drug dealer began grooming her via Facebook.” “Lilly herself was groomed and repeatedly abducted and raped by a man from the age of six. Lilly’s sister was sexually abused by her own social worker at age twelve.””…she was raped in a hotel by a man she believed to be a doctor. “”including being raped by a dog as the men placed bets on whether it would penetrate her vagina or her anus.” Yeah, right.

One girl, no age supplied, was turned in to counter-terrorism police for fear she had been ‘radicalised’ by Islam! She even stopped eating bacon, a sure sign of budding terrorism. “…witnessed the slaughtering of a lamb in the bathroom of a house.” Yuck, but unlikely to be illegal. She received “an instruction not to eat pork as the father believed ‘it would make the baby gay’.” Come on! 

A percentage of these girls continued to be raped into adulthood. This questions the veracity of their testimony. What adult woman would willingly present herself to situations where she could be raped? Many women even cross the road if a man is walking behind them. In addition, I’m sure a certain number of girls are raped in childhood by their own fathers, stepfathers or mother’s boyfriends. But are we to think this is common practice?!?

Lowe tells us that, per conviction rate, 87% of convicted offenders are Pakistani. But he fails to detail what were the charges, what charges resulted in convictions, range of sentences, and how many victims for each. Surely this constitutes crucial information! Instead, Lowe prefers to blame “Muslims” as if religion had anything to do with rape of children.

And then, the Honourable Member of Parliament starts to tell us about forced Muslim marriages and divorces, sharia law…and taxi drivers. Rupert tells us about “250,000” UK child rapes, thousands in Netherlands (no doubt he got his information from Geert Wilders) and hundreds in Sweden.

One child protection officer, working independently of his position, said there were 1,400 grooming gangs suspects. It is surely coincidental that Alexis Jay used that number for child victims. 

Obviously the phrase, “You can’t make this s*it up”, does not apply to Rupert Lowe. This entire report reads like trashy, salacious fiction. I’m certain there are Pakistani predators as there are predators of every nationality and culture. But Rupert preys on the naive and on morons who’ll believe anything racist about people of any colour but their own.

And now the real agenda for this crowdfunded report:“Britain is not a unique case. This sort of thing goes on anywhere that either welcomes mass migration from Muslim countries or contains long-established Muslim populations. There is a consistent pattern of sexual violence directed against non-Muslim minorities in settings where Muslims form the majority.” Lowe attributes an “us and them” mindset to Muslims as if that was not exactly his aim.

Frankly, I’m glad I read the Lowe report last. It had great entertainment value. If I had read it first, I would have completely rejected the entire idea of “Pakistani rape gangs” simply because a great deal of his report is sensational fabrication. I am not saying that there are not grains of truth in the MP’s report, only that he used it to reach a planned racist conclusion by demonising all Pakistani immigrants. “Girls as young as 4 were raped repeatedly, some until they became pregnant.” LOL

Anybody who finds the Lowe report credible is either a racist or a fool. Rupert Lowe and his collaborators are expert in sowing division in society: us and ‘other’. Other human beings.

One last falsehood: “Islamic jurisprudence sets no minimum age at which a girl or a woman may be married. “ The age of consent to marriage is 18 years for both genders in Pakistan.

CONCLUSIONS

The questions raised bring to mind whether such groups targeting vulnerable girls in other countries than the United Kingdom. Is anyone aware of such information?

You’re not going to cure sex, at any age. What we need to focus on is preventing coercive sex. That means teaching both boys and girls the meaning of right and wrong.

Pornography has certainly influenced male-female relationships. These are fantasies, of course, but boys' (and girls') minds don't get that. Boys think every girl should be ready for sex and girls think having boyfriends start with kneel and bob.

These reports are all long and detailed as deserved of the victims. They are a slog to get through even if you have the stomach for it.

Let it be said that, wherever there are men and women throughout history, there has been rape. These are really no different and should be addressed in a court of law as a civilised country. Where civility fails, barbarism follows.

They should get life sentences.

They go after young girls, mostly from poor families , care homes etc because they are vulnerable and they give them a few quid, or sweets, drink.

No decent woman in the UK would have anything to do with these men, even for money. That’s why they go after young girls. Deporting is too good a solution. They need to learn in a real UK prison .

10 minutes ago, geisha said:

They should get life sentences.

They go after young girls, mostly from poor families , care homes etc because they are vulnerable and they give them a few quid, or sweets, drink.

No different to many felangs in Thailand, including some posters on here

10 hours ago, geisha said:

They should get life sentences.

They go after young girls, mostly from poor families , care homes etc because they are vulnerable and they give them a few quid, or sweets, drink.

No decent woman in the UK would have anything to do with these men, even for money. That’s why they go after young girls. Deporting is too good a solution. They need to learn in a real UK prison .

If they have UK citizenship, withdraw it, jail sentence, say, 15-20 years, and deportation. I think prevention is better than this kind of cure. That can only happen from within the Pakistani community.

The problem is that far too many people are ready to jump on all Pakistanis when these rape gangs are a tiny part. Even tinier when compared with the rape stats for all of the UK.