It was always obvious that my eldest granddaughter preferred girls from about eight. When she was 11, she came out to her parents. She’s now 19 but, to my knowledge, has never had a steady squeeze. I feel accepting of this fact and am curious to meet any girlfriends she may have. (I’m certain they could not be more outrageous than I!)

Her parents support her in ways I feel are a bit overbearing. Baking her a rainbow b’day cake, taking her six hours’ drive to the nearest Pride Parade. It’s, to my mind, a little too much support that isn’t really, really support. Herself is what she is, nothing more and nothing less.

We don’t do any of that for straight kids.

My grandsons are apparently straight. Would I be as accepting of them if one turned out to be gay? Do I regard gay differently than I do the L-word? I'm a little bit more iffy about boys. Not sure as it hasn’t happened (yet).

What I’m curious about is whether kids have experimentation and then switch teams. How often might this happen? I don’t care, but I am curious.

Believe me, it’s hard enough have far away grandchildren. I definitely don’t want far away great-grandchildren! Which means, I don’t need any more heirs to pass along the family name.

Bottom line is that gay men and women do pretty much the same things in bed I do. And I bet you do, too! So it's not really an issue.

22 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Bottom line is that gay men and women do pretty much the same things in bed I do.

You stick things up your bum too?

35 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Bottom line is that gay men and women do pretty much the same things in bed I do. And I bet you do, too! So it's not really an issue.

In the bed, you the train or the tunnel ?

59 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

and am curious to meet any girlfriends she may have.

I'll bet you are.

In my opinion, the sad thing about youngsters becoming gay or trans is that they may have watched this on the internet and perceived it as the 'in thing'. I'm an old fogey, born in the early 1930s without TV or internet, so not exposed to what I consider a cult. Sure, it was quietly there. But it was not flaunted, and people weren't persuading you via the internet that it was normal and to try it.

Growing up I had a good friend a pretty Japanese girl inform me that I was gay long before I realized it myself. Not in a mean way. She knew that any straight boy would have made a move on her but I felt nothing. Even her parents treated me as a "safe" boy.

Edited July 5Jul 5 by Jingthing

30 minutes ago, FlorC said:

I'll bet you are.

He did come across as perverted with that statement. Wonder if he will offer them candy when he meets them 😏

3 minutes ago, Gandtee said:

In my opinion, the sad thing about youngsters becoming gay or trans is that they may have watched this on the internet and perceived it as the 'in thing'. I'm an old fogey, born in the early 1930s without TV or internet, so not exposed to what I consider a cult. Sure, it was quietly there. But it was not flaunted, and people weren't persuading you via the internet that it was normal and to try it.

At first what I thought....what a ridiculous comment to make....then I realised ........it was so stupid it must satire.....glad I didn't embarrass myself by not spotting that.

5 minutes ago, Gandtee said:

In my opinion, the sad thing about youngsters becoming gay or trans is that they may have watched this on the internet and perceived it as the 'in thing'. I'm an old fogey, born in the early 1930s without TV or internet, so not exposed to what I consider a cult. Sure, it was quietly there. But it was not flaunted, and people weren't persuading you via the internet that it was normal and to try it.

Dunno, I knew gay kids in high school, confided in me, not public. A couple became very influential academics.

5 minutes ago, Gandtee said:

In my opinion, the sad thing about youngsters becoming gay or trans is that they may have watched this on the internet and perceived it as the 'in thing'. I'm an old fogey, born in the early 1930s without TV or internet, so not exposed to what I consider a cult. Sure, it was quietly there. But it was not flaunted, and people weren't persuading you via the internet that it was normal and to try it.

And don't forget the indoctrination in the schools.

1 hour ago, unblocktheplanet said:

It was always obvious that my eldest granddaughter preferred girls from about eight. When she was 11, she came out to her parents. She’s now 19 but, to my knowledge, has never had a steady squeeze. I feel accepting of this fact and am curious to meet any girlfriends she may have. (I’m certain they could not be more outrageous than I!)

Her parents support her in ways I feel are a bit overbearing. Baking her a rainbow b’day cake, taking her six hours’ drive to the nearest Pride Parade. It’s, to my mind, a little too much support that isn’t really, really support. Herself is what she is, nothing more and nothing less.

We don’t do any of that for straight kids.

My grandsons are apparently straight. Would I be as accepting of them if one turned out to be gay? Do I regard gay differently than I do the L-word? I'm a little bit more iffy about boys. Not sure as it hasn’t happened (yet).

What I’m curious about is whether kids have experimentation and then switch teams. How often might this happen? I don’t care, but I am curious.

Believe me, it’s hard enough have far away grandchildren. I definitely don’t want far away great-grandchildren! Which means, I don’t need any more heirs to pass along the family name.

Bottom line is that gay men and women do pretty much the same things in bed I do. And I bet you do, too! So it's not really an issue.

It would seem that they are encouraging her. Let her sort herself out. Too many youngsters are taking puberty blockers and other drugs. Many resorting to surgery. Very sad.

7 minutes ago, Gandtee said:

In my opinion, the sad thing about youngsters becoming gay or trans is that they may have watched this on the internet and perceived it as the 'in thing'. I'm an old fogey, born in the early 1930s without TV or internet, so not exposed to what I consider a cult. Sure, it was quietly there. But it was not flaunted, and people weren't persuading you via the internet that it was normal and to try it.

I don't think it's the Internet but we were better off without it. Not everything needs to be easy. AI, for example. Libraries were robber baron Andrew Carnegie's finest achievement. I support LGBLT+ books in school libraries. No censorship!

4 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

A couple became very influential academics.

See my comment to Gandtree's post.

5 minutes ago, howlee101 said:

And don't forget the indoctrination in the schools.

How many years were you teaching, what age, what subject(s)?

1 hour ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Bottom line is that gay men and women do pretty much the same things in bed I do. And I bet you do, too! So it's not really an issue.

Then why bring it up if it’s not an issue? What folks do with and in their personal lives is no one else’s business but their own.

6 minutes ago, MIke B Bad said:

How many years were you teaching, what age, what subject(s)?

Do I need to be a teacher to know that it's occurring in many schools? Do I need to be an scholar in economics to realize many cities are failing because of the elected officials? Do I need to be an expert in migration to realize the US and EU were overrun with unvetted immigrants? Do I need to be rich so I'm not poor?

3 minutes ago, novacova said:

Then why bring it up if it’s not an issue? What folks do with and in their personal lives is no one else’s business but their own.

Agree, but it seems the OP only wants to meet his granddaughter's GFs....which is on the creepy side

I lived in the San Francisco bay area before coming here and gayness is everywhere. I always got along with the gay women better than the men. As you, I decided not to worry about it and actually one of my last managers I hired was very gay. Worst manager that I ever hired :) Spent more time talking and getting in touch emotionally with his employees. Impossible to fire someone in California so I had to deal with the sht for years. He also had HIV so I had to be careful. Just kidding , he did have HIV though.

Did you have a specific question in your OP? I have a habit of rambling...

Edited July 5Jul 5 by atpeace

For those who are interested I would suggest watching The Edge Of The Matrix, on Youtube. A man broadcasting the truth about the dangers of the Trans movement.

1 hour ago, Gandtee said:

It would seem that they are encouraging her. Let her sort herself out. Too many youngsters are taking puberty blockers and other drugs. Many resorting to surgery. Very sad.

That comment is so ignorant.

Being a lesbian has nothing to do with puberty blockers or surgery.

3 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

It was always obvious that my eldest granddaughter preferred girls from about eight. When she was 11, she came out to her parents. She’s now 19 but, to my knowledge, has never had a steady squeeze. I feel accepting of this fact and am curious to meet any girlfriends she may have. (I’m certain they could not be more outrageous than I!)

Her parents support her in ways I feel are a bit overbearing. Baking her a rainbow b’day cake, taking her six hours’ drive to the nearest Pride Parade. It’s, to my mind, a little too much support that isn’t really, really support. Herself is what she is, nothing more and nothing less.

We don’t do any of that for straight kids.

My grandsons are apparently straight. Would I be as accepting of them if one turned out to be gay? Do I regard gay differently than I do the L-word? I'm a little bit more iffy about boys. Not sure as it hasn’t happened (yet).

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What I’m curious about is whether kids have experimentation and then switch teams. How often might this happen? I don’t care, but I am curious.

Believe me, it’s hard enough have far away grandchildren. I definitely don’t want far away great-grandchildren! Which means, I don’t need any more heirs to pass along the family name.

Bottom line is that gay men and women do pretty much the same things in bed I do. And I bet you do, too! So it's not really an issue.

Straight kids receive tons of social approval every day.

LGBT kids don't.

DUH.

For someone who presents as some kind of radical progressive on other issues, you have rather a big blind spot about LGBTQ issues.

Edited July 5Jul 5 by Jingthing

35 minutes ago, Gandtee said:

For those who are interested I would suggest watching The Edge Of The Matrix, on Youtube. A man broadcasting the truth about the dangers of the Trans movement.

Yeah sure. Haters gonna hate.

www.terfwatchbrighton.substack.com/p/a-fascist-came-to-brighton-he-left

6 hours ago, FlorC said:

I'll bet you are.

To quote Peter Sellers, "I like to watch."

6 hours ago, Gandtee said:

It would seem that they are encouraging her. Let her sort herself out. Too many youngsters are taking puberty blockers and other drugs. Many resorting to surgery. Very sad.

No, nothing like that. She's a bit shy and timid but she seems happy inside herself.

6 hours ago, howlee101 said:

And don't forget the indoctrination in the schools.

I think you may mean this in a different sense than I have. Schools teach control and obedience. Flag, national anthem, be on time. They prepare a child to be a wage-slave.

6 hours ago, novacova said:

Then why bring it up if it’s not an issue? What folks do with and in their personal lives is no one else’s business but their own.

It's definitely part of the equation we're discussing. Sorry to make you uncomfortable.

6 hours ago, atpeace said:

I lived in the San Francisco bay area before coming here and gayness is everywhere. I always got along with the gay women better than the men. As you, I decided not to worry about it and actually one of my last managers I hired was very gay. Worst manager that I ever hired :) Spent more time talking and getting in touch emotionally with his employees. Impossible to fire someone in California so I had to deal with the sht for years. He also had HIV so I had to be careful. Just kidding , he did have HIV though.

Did you have a specific question in your OP? I have a habit of rambling...

My son and I ended up in a gay hotel in Vienna--the kind where you never see anyone, key and card are passed through a window. First time we slept in the same bed since he was a boy. Anyway, we wanted beer and walked into the bar across the street. It was a lesbian bar. It was quite clear we weren't welcomed so drank our beers in the street. Great trip!

5 hours ago, Gandtee said:

For those who are interested I would suggest watching The Edge Of The Matrix, on Youtube. A man broadcasting the truth about the dangers of the Trans movement.

You mean those operations they do during lunch hour at primary schools?

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Straight kids receive tons of social approval every day.

LGBT kids don't.

DUH.

For someone who presents as some kind of radical progressive on other issues, you have rather a big blind spot about LGBTQ issues.

Let's discuss this further, Jing. This is not one of my usual issues so, you're right, I have a lot to learn. Maybe it's a blind spot, maybe not.

13 hours ago, Gandtee said:

It would seem that they are encouraging her. Let her sort herself out. Too many youngsters are taking puberty blockers and other drugs. Many resorting to surgery. Very sad.

Having some trouble with the "complexities" of being gay/lesbian versus being trans?

Hard to believe that you need to be informed that no drugs and no surgery is required to be a lesbian.