15 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

How many times a day do you pray for Trump to fail?

Has not a thing to do with Trump. It's the law.

16 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

If he/Iran get away with this "TOLL" nonsense then every tin pot controller of a country with restricted waterways will do the same!

Time to put a stop to this nonsense toll reteric.

Don't be surprised if there will be another extension and maybe another one too, those iranians are the masters of negotiation and playing for time hoping that something will happen in the mean time, as the saying goes: ''it ain't over until the fat lady sings'' and right now, the fat lady nowhere to seen.

Wow...one terrorist state acting as the mediator with another terrorist state...

15 minutes ago, SingAPorn said:

Wow...one terrorist state acting as the mediator with another terrorist state...

Speaking of terrorist states, the U.S. under Trump has become one. Don't think so? See the definition of a terrorist state. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_terrorism.

3 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

Speaking of terrorist states, the U.S. under Trump has become one. Don't think so? See the definition of a terrorist state. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_terrorism.

Sorry...you mean the US has always been one rather...don't forget that it's israel that conned Trump and has drawn america into their war and interests.

Fox News’ Jessica Tarlov Takes Down Trump After He Demanded She Get Fired

Read it first at No ! news source!

https://www.tvinsider.com/1257098/fox-news-jessica-tarlov-takes-down-trump-after-he-demanded-she-get-fired/

Israel is doing and will surely do all in it's power to push Iran to violate and break the ceasefire as this war was instigated by israel who want's to draw NATO into, with the help of israel's humble servant, that has always been Amercia.

21 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

And why LNG wont work in Pipeline !! in its Liquefied it can be transported in only short distance but in its its gaseous state it can be transported over long distance

The largest shipper of LNG in the Gulf is Qatar.

As you say, LNG cannot be shipped by pipeline over long distances. Geographically and politically it would require Qatar to do a deal with Saudi Arabia. That would need it to be shipped in gaseous form across the Saudi desert, which would then require various processing plants to be built at the end to return it to liquid and load it to ships.

There would still remain at the Red Sea end the problem of the Houthis to be considered.

On 4/8/2026 at 7:05 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

A small point of note, there are three sides in this war.

I called that right.

20 hours ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Where is my exclusive blame on Israel?

If you choose to contrive and conflate events as convenient fact you are unlikely to ever comprehend truth.

You have worded your statement so as to present a prejudicial position with the clsim "what is essentially Netanyahu's refusal to accept cessation of attacks on Lebanese civilians". Civilians are not being targeted. The relocated Hezbollah command and control centers are being targeted. Hezbollah like Hamas and Iran places its military centers in residential areas to ensure that there is collateral damage. You conveniently did not mention that the Israelis had provided advance warning that they would be targeting the areas. Announcements were made in Arabic.

Hezbollah did not accept a ceasefire. You ignored that as you sought to present your biased position. It's absolute nonsense to describe Hegseth and Trump as cornered rats. You and so many others wanted the conflict to cease. Well, the USA did just that, and now you are upset that they did.

Ceasefires offer hope. Despite not defining what is considered workable.

9 hours ago, 1tooth said:

Run Forrest, run!🤣

Typical leftist response.

6 hours ago, earlmoran1 said:

Ceasefires offer hope. Despite not defining what is considered workable.

Donald Trump capitulates totally to Iran

 It took the Vietcong 10 years to humiliate the United States. The Taliban did it in 20. Iran has taken just six weeks.

In every respect, the US’s national security and ability to project power – and thus the security of its friends and allies – is weaker than on February 27, the day before US President Donald Trump yielded to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s 30-year insistence that destroying Iran’s theocracy is necessary for peace in the Middle East.

Netanyahu is probably right. Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates have been US security partners for decades. It is Iran that has been the puppet-master of the region’s key terrorist organisations, Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthis.

For an Israeli prime minister, it makes perfect sense to want to overthrow the ayatollahs; even more so if you can get the US to do it for you.

Since Jimmy Carter, every US President has considered the benefits of war with Iran. But from Carter to Ronald Reagan and the two George Bushes, to Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and Joe Biden, and even Trump in his first term, all eight concluded the costs and likelihood of defeat were too high......then up stepped the orange clown!

Does the US team have a clue???

Trump ‘agreed Lebanon included in ceasefire’

Donald Trump agreed that Lebanon would be included in the ceasefire when officials informed him about the deal, CBS News reported.

Multiple diplomatic sources told the TV channel that the US president had agreed to those terms, as Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu continued to insist that “there is no ceasefire” in Lebanon.

The reports contradict a statement by Trump’s Vice-President, JD Vance, blaming the cracks in the truce on a “legitimate misunderstanding” from the Iranians who “thought that the ceasefire included Lebanon, and it just didn’t”.

After careening from one diplomatic extreme to another, President Trump finds himself with a fragile deal that is already showing signs of fraying.

President Donald Trump sat behind the Resolute Desk as Tuesday evening approached, ruminating about what might unfold in the next few hours.

He had vowed to wipe “a whole civilisation” off the map if his 8pm deadline for Iran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz had passed. As a series of unrelated meetings unfolded, Trump would interject to list the number of bridges and power plants he was prepared to strike in Iran. Yet another clown show!

15 hours ago, xylophone said:

Does the US team have a clue???

Trump ‘agreed Lebanon included in ceasefire’

Donald Trump agreed that Lebanon would be included in the ceasefire when officials informed him about the deal, CBS News reported.

Multiple diplomatic sources told the TV channel that the US president had agreed to those terms, as Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu continued to insist that “there is no ceasefire” in Lebanon.

The reports contradict a statement by Trump’s Vice-President, JD Vance, blaming the cracks in the truce on a “legitimate misunderstanding” from the Iranians who “thought that the ceasefire included Lebanon, and it just didn’t”.

After careening from one diplomatic extreme to another, President Trump finds himself with a fragile deal that is already showing signs of fraying.

President Donald Trump sat behind the Resolute Desk as Tuesday evening approached, ruminating about what might unfold in the next few hours.

He had vowed to wipe “a whole civilisation” off the map if his 8pm deadline for Iran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz had passed. As a series of unrelated meetings unfolded, Trump would interject to list the number of bridges and power plants he was prepared to strike in Iran. Yet another clown show!

Idiot Trump makes all kinds of threats and fails to follow through on most of them. The Iranians know this and will continue to call his bluff. Trump refuses to acknowledge that he's been made a fool off.

And for you MAGA fans, I definitely am not a left-winger.

Bloomberg shipping expert Javier Blas gives a good explanation about what has happened to the shipping lanes in the Straits of Hormuz, and also what is likely to be the area of operations, for an international demining force, probably lead by the Royal Navy.

Seems like Iran is communicating to the Ameiricans it doesn't have a good picture where it laid its sea mines. I would surmise that the reason the Iranians used small, ad hoc vessals to lay mines was that their dedicated minelaying vessals, with naval professionals, were with Davey Jones Locker.

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-892623

If the talks had any sense, both delegations need to include naval officers who know the waters, because talks will need to involve the practicalities of rendering the waterway safe, likely defining an area of mine clearing operations, possibly by "neutral" parties, without encoaching into Iranian waters.

If the area that is approximately mined lies within Omani waters, then the recent talks between Iran and Oman have more significance. The Royal Omani Navy is small but highly professional. It has a high degree of interoperability with the Royal Navy, though, as yet, possesses no mine clearing capability of its own. The RN intends to deploy its fleet of Harrier autonomous minesweepers to the Gulf, of the type described here

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news/2023/february/13/20230213-autonomous-minehunter-to-trial-uncrewed-operations-in-the-gulf

The currents in Hormuz make minesweeping challenging, as the mines can move up and down the straits, I suppose as the tidal systems meet. Therefore, whether the Americans like it or not, shipping for a significant period will have to be directed through Iranian waters. An understanding of hydrographic survey maps will likely present the options, which by the sound of it, are limited.

The Pakistani Navy has more conventional minesweeping capability in the area than the US and UK combined, operating 3 vessals, 30-40 years old, of French/Dutch/Belgian construction/design.

https://www.globalmilitary.net/ships/tripartite/

Whitehouse decision making:

Hegseth; War war

Rubio; Maybe

Vance; Jaw Jaw.

Now Vance is leading the negotiations, and using unusual language to describe the Iranians;

I think this comes from a legitimate misunderstanding.......I think that the Iranians thought that the ceasefire included Lebanon, and it just didn’t. We never made that promise

Very embarrassing for the yanks !!! the surrender to iran !!

4 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

Very embarrassing for the yanks !!! the surrender to iran !!

Even more embarrassing is that Trump thinks the U.S. has won.

On 4/8/2026 at 5:31 PM, Rockyroad said:

Iran is a basket case nation while America is the world leader.

Good one. 🤣😂

Oh, absolutely. We’re the "leader" of the world in the same way a guy with a maxed-out credit card and a leaking roof is the leader of the neighborhood. It’s real easy to act like the big dog when you’re printing money to blow up sand, but eventually, the bill comes due. We’re busy bragging about being number one while our bridges are rust-buckets, our schools are struggling to teach the basics, and the rest of the planet is figuring out how to trade without using our increasingly worthless IOUs. We've spent decades acting like the world’s bouncer, forgetting that if you spend all your time at the bar and none of it fixing your own house, you end up the strongest guy in the poorhouse.

It all comes down to ATTRITION... the slow, steady wearing down of an opponent until they’ve got nothing left. Iran knows they don't have to outgun us; they just have to outlast us while we set fire to our own wallet. They’re playing the long game, watching us trade our future for "bombing quotas" until we’re too tired and too broke to even stand on our own porch, let alone lead the world.

The US and Iran have failed to reach an agreement in talks in Islamabad:

BBC News

US and Iran fail to reach agreement after historic peace...

Details of the negotiations remain scarce, but trilateral talks have been under way for hours in Islamabad.

Yanks !! your moron president is now shouting "we won" What did you win !!!! because it certainly was not the war with iran !! every man and his dog knows that !

The peace talk has ended with no agreement. Vance has packed his bag. Meanwhile POTUS is nonchalant on the talks proceedings and having a good time at a UFC fight grinning widely with not a care to the sufferings of the country and the world. He is so detached from his oath of office to the American people.

On 4/9/2026 at 9:19 PM, dinsdale said:

It's sad isn't it. The thing we cannot say on here but is allowed to be said everywhere else means that this particular subsection of society have to support a murderous Islamic theocratic terrorist regime purely because of an irrational hatred driven by the radical left and the propaganda arm of the radical left aka the legacy media. These maniacs were going to get nukes. Stopping this is somehow a bad thing. It's insane.

Nice try - but no cigar!

What is 'insane' is this continual attemp by the MAGA faithful (because you all do it) to conflate criticism of Trump and this war with support of Iran. It is one of the most feeble of arguments as no one (and I mean no one) here is 'supporting a murderous Islamic theocratic terrorist regime' - quite the contrary in fact - I think most would quite happily see the end of the Iranian regime, but that doesn't mean Trump shouldn't be criticised for this stupid war that has yielded ZERO benefits whilst adding significent and hugely negative pressures to the world economy.

And don't get me started on 'the nukes'. There is zero eveidence they were anywhere close to getting them and if they were, wasn't Trump supposed to have 'obliterated' their capabilities back in June with his first bombing campaign? I mean he said so so we should all believe him right?

You MAGA's are so gullible it's scary. You talk about 'irrational hatred' whilst continually demonstarting irrational devotion. It's you guys that need to wake up and smell the roses before it's too late and we get into some SERIOUS problems because of the clown in The White House .

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

The peace talk has ended with no agreement. Vance has packed his bag. Meanwhile POTUS is nonchalant on the talks proceedings and having a good time at a UFC fight grinning widely with not a care to the sufferings of the country and the world. He is so detached from his oath of office to the American people.

He has no musical talent, so he can't play the 'fiddle' while the empire burns. It's golf, watching other men fight (probably gotta chub), and eating buckets of fast food for Brave Sir Donny.

2 minutes ago, Galong said:

He has no musical talent, so he can't play the 'fiddle' while the empire burns. It's golf, watching other men fight (probably gotta chub), and eating buckets of fast food for Brave Sir Donny.

Fake actors same same

27 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

It's you guys that need to wake up and smell the roses before it's too late and we get into some SERIOUS problems because of the clown in The White House .

Too late for that.

it appears the famous Trump 2 week deadline decision on any deal it's over, yesterday meeting didn't produce any positive outcome, no deal was made, then US send in the destroyers for mine clearing job

Two U.S. Navy destroyers had transited the Strait of Hormuz to begin mine-clearing operations in the vital waterway, U.S. Central Command said Saturday

Iran's Revolutionary Guards later released a statement threatening to deal "severely" with any military vessels transiting the strait, according to Agence France-Presse.

"Any attempt by military vessels to pass through the Strait of Hormuz will be dealt with severely.

U.S. naval destroyers have crossed the Strait of Hormuz, CENTCOM says

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/u-naval-destroyers-crossed-strait-174414707.html