You yanks will be paying for this

the statement has said that the US has agreed to:

• Guarantee not to repeat its "aggression" against Iran

• The continuation of Iran’s control over the Strait of Hormuz

• Acceptance of [uranium] enrichment

• Lifting of all primary and secondary sanctions

• Termination of all resolutions of the [UN] Security Council and International Atomic Energy Agency

• Payment of compensation to Iran

• Withdrawal of US combat forces from the region

• And the cessation of war on all fronts, including against the "Islamic resistance of Lebanon"

13 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

get your facts right not b/S

https://www.iraq-businessnews.com/2025/01/01/iraq-approves-4-5bn-basra-haditha-oil-pipeline/

3 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

You yanks will be paying for this

the statement has said that the US has agreed to:

• Guarantee not to repeat its "aggression" against Iran

• The continuation of Iran’s control over the Strait of Hormuz

• Acceptance of [uranium] enrichment

• Lifting of all primary and secondary sanctions

• Termination of all resolutions of the [UN] Security Council and International Atomic Energy Agency

• Payment of compensation to Iran

• Withdrawal of US combat forces from the region

• And the cessation of war on all fronts, including against the "Islamic resistance of Lebanon"

When did Trump agree to all of this?

8 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

How did he lose the war?

A better question is, what has he gained? A temporary respite in the blockade, which Iran can start again any time it wants.

He lost nearly $1 billion a day. Not him of course, just the American taxpayer. He lost the respect of every ally America has or had.

Hegseth now claims the military needs another $1.5 trillion. That's going to be funded by cuts to education and health.

Anyone want to call that a win for Americans?

4 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

When did Trump agree to all of this?

read the news

2 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

read the news

I just did and he has not agreed. You are a bs artist.

• Trump’s Stance: On April 8, 2026, President Trump described this proposal on Truth Social as a "workable basis on which to negotiate" rather than an outright agreement.

• The Conflict: While he agreed to a two-week provisional ceasefire to review the plan, significant friction remains. The plan includes demands that the U.S. likely finds unacceptable, such as continued Iranian control over the Strait of Hormuz, the lifting of all sanctions, and the acceptance of Iran's uranium enrichment program.

• Status: Negotiations are scheduled to begin in Islamabad, but Trump has already labeled parts of the proposal "fraudulent" in follow-up comments, suggesting a full agreement is far from settled.

9 hours ago, b17 said:

committed war crimes on day one (165 girls killed)

School targeted war crime. School not targeted/mistakenly hit not a war crime. Are you saying the US targeted the school?

40 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Did you lose money because of the war?

Everyone lost money. Fuel prices went up 25%. Airfares took off to the stratosphere. Tourism fell off a cliff.

You have my nomination for the most moronic post on this thread. Harrisfan, bignok, susanlea or whatever your alter egos are.

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

Everyone lost money. Fuel prices went up 25%. Airfares took off to the stratosphere. Tourism fell off a cliff.

You have my nomination for the most moronic post on this thread.

I lost about $50 due to the higher fuel prices. My plane tickets have not increased. My food costs are the same. Nothing else has changed. You must be a truck driver if your life changed a lot. The baht has weakened so overall probably got my $50 back. So no difference at all.

4 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

I lost about $50 due to the higher fuel prices. My plane tickets have not increased. My food costs are the same. Nothing else has changed. You must be a truck driver if your life changed a lot. The baht has weakened so overall probably got my $50 back. So no difference at all.

I think I will save myself some time. Bye now.

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

I think I will save myself some time. Bye now.

Well prove me wrong. The Thai baht is 5% weaker now. My plane tickets were the same price as last year. None of the foods I eat have changed. I lost $50 on fuel but got it back with a weaker baht.

The oil price has crashed 17% now. More good news.

On a slightly different note, I have just watched Hegseth and co- prattle on about how they "won the war", which went into quite a lot of detail, including the amount of coffee which was consumed by the US troops (yes, believe it) and it really became a "boast fest" as to how the largest military in the world had overcome a country of almost "Stone Age" people.

I've been around since the end of the Second World War and I don't ever remember any country boasting like the US has done about any of the wars that have been fought, and as for this "war" and "truce", it speaks so much about them, and simply reinforces the fact that the current Administration consists of a bunch of clowns and idiots – – nothing more, nothing less.

43 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

UAE, Iraq, Israel and Saudis.

Everything I've seen says those countries are merely "considering" new pipelines. There are no sources that I can find, stating they have started building them.

If you have such sources, please provide them - otherwise your claims are baseless.

Gulf states consider new pipelines to avoid Strait of Hormuz

Conflict prompts countries to revisit plans that replicate Saudi Arabia’s East-West pipeline despite huge cost and complexity

https://www.ft.com/content/880664d8-e110-4760-8b00-aa3141a770ff

35 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

https://www.iraq-businessnews.com/2025/01/01/iraq-approves-4-5bn-basra-haditha-oil-pipeline/

That pipeline is still only at the proposal stage. So your claim that countries (plural) are building pipelines (plural) remains inaccurate.

Here's an article dated 8 April, 2026 (i.e. today, as I write this).

Iraq to start receiving bids for Basra-Haditha oil pipeline project

Baghdad (IraqiNews.com) – The Iraqi cabinet authorized on Tuesday the Oil Ministry to directly invite specialized companies to submit proposals for the Basra-Haditha oil pipeline project.

https://www.iraqinews.com/iraq/iraq-to-start-receiving-bids-for-basra-haditha-oil-pipeline-project/

https://min.news/en/economy/f5ac84ae5dd166e46a500f050d4af9b4.html

Thai Baht continues to be weak and oil is down 18% now. This year will be great now.

1 minute ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

That pipeline is still only at the proposal stage. So your claim that countries (plural) are building pipelines (plural) remains inaccurate.

Here's an article dated 8 April, 2026 (i.e. today, as I write this).

Iraq to start receiving bids for Basra-Haditha oil pipeline project

Baghdad (IraqiNews.com) – The Iraqi cabinet authorized on Tuesday the Oil Ministry to directly invite specialized companies to submit proposals for the Basra-Haditha oil pipeline project.

https://www.iraqinews.com/iraq/iraq-to-start-receiving-bids-for-basra-haditha-oil-pipeline-project/

Tell someone who cares.

9 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

How did he lose the war?

9 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

He bombed Iran over 10,000 times. Iran bombed America soil 0 times. How do you American haters come to make such ridiculous conclusions. You must be high on drugs, alcohol or out of touch with reality.

10,000 times ?

I thought this was a man who came in peace ?

9 minutes ago, xylophone said:

On a slightly different note, I have just watched Hegseth and co- prattle on about how they "won the war", which went into quite a lot of detail, including the amount of coffee which was consumed by the US troops (yes, believe it) and it really became a "boast fest" as to how the largest military in the world had overcome a country of almost "Stone Age" people.

I've been around since the end of the Second World War and I don't ever remember any country boasting like the US has done about any of the wars that have been fought, and as for this "war" and "truce", it speaks so much about them, and simply reinforces the fact that the current Administration consists of a bunch of clowns and idiots – – nothing more, nothing less.

So do you think it's too early to call total victory? IMHO it may be. Let's see what happens in the next two weeks. One thing is certain though. The Islamic regime has got smacked and got smacked very, very hard and have accepted a ceasefire and it seems the strait will be open to all shipping traffic. Regime is still in place for now but regime change was not part of the military strategy. As for "the largest military in the world had overcome a country of almost "Stone Age" people" this is simply a crazy comment. Fact is the US is the most powerful armed force in the world and the Islamic regime were no match for the combined forces of the US and the IDF. To call them "stone age" though is well off the mark. In the Middle East they WERE quite powerful.

Just now, Jim Blue said:

10,000 times ?

I thought this was a man who came in peace ?

Alas peace sometimes can only be achieved through violence. Let's hope in the not too distant future the people of Iran can live a peaceful existence free from the tyranny of a fundamentalist terror based Islamic regime.

1 hour ago, CallumWK said:

From the Resolute Desk of Donald J Trump

Oh we did it, folks. We did it. Nobody thought it could be done. They said, “Sir, it’s impossible. Nobody can do this.” And I said, watch. Just watch. And now, ceasefire. The greatest ceasefire. Two weeks. Nobody’s ever seen anything like it. Beautiful.

Iran, very tough people, very tough, they were saying no, no, no. And then they said yes. They said, “Sir… please.” I get that a lot. “Sir, please, can we make a deal?” And I said, maybe. Maybe we do, maybe we don’t. That’s negotiation. That’s called leverage. A lot of people don’t understand leverage. I do. The best.

We were ready, by the way. Totally ready. Planes in the air, the best planes, stealth, not even visible, you wouldn’t even see them. Bridges, power plants, boom, boom, done. Very fast. Would’ve been over in like, what, an hour? Maybe less. People said it would be the end of everything. I said, we don’t want that. We want peace. But strong peace. My kind of peace.

Then I get a call, very important call, from Shehbaz Sharif. Great guy. Highly respected. Everybody respects him. He says, “Sir, could you give it two weeks?” And I said… you know what? For you, maybe we do something. Because I like him. Good relationship. Incredible relationship. The best relationships.

And Iran sends over, ten points. Ten beautiful points. Some people are saying the most beautiful points they’ve ever seen. A lot of detail. Very smart. And I looked at it, very quickly, because I understand things very quickly, much faster than other people, and I said, this is workable. This is a deal. This is maybe the deal. Historic.

But I told them, very strongly, forcefully, OPEN the Strait. Open it. Completely, immediately, safely. The Strait of Hormuz, very important. A lot of oil. A lot of ships. The most ships. Nobody knew how important it was until I said it. Now everybody’s talking about it.

So I said, you open it, we pause. Two weeks. Not forever, because you need strength, but two weeks. And they said okay, we’ll think about it. Which means yes, by the way. That’s what that means. People don’t know that. I know that.

And now you have a double-sided ceasefire. Double-sided. Nobody’s ever done that. Usually it’s one side, maybe the other side cheats. Not here. Not with me. This is fair. Very fair. The most fair.

We’ve already won, by the way. Militarily completely. Easter was great, militarily. Totally. We achieved everything. More than anyone expected. Some generals came up to me, big strong guys, tears in their eyes, and they said, “Sir, we’ve never seen anything like this.” And I said, I know. I know.

So now we finish it. Two weeks. We finalize, we consummate, very important word, consummate, the agreement. Long-term peace. Maybe forever. Maybe longer than forever. And if not… well, we know what happens. And they know too.

But right now? Peace. Strength. Respect. Everybody’s calling. Everybody wants to be part of it. They’re saying this is the greatest negotiation ever done.

And it is. It really is.

Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Nicked from FB LOL

Pure GOLD!

20 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Tell someone who cares.

I’ll run it by an Iranian I know Rashan Firis, but he’s not online at the moment.

If Trump can not control Nethanyahu, there's not going to be peace.

14 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

A small point of note, there are three sides in this war.

Which side are you on?

A decent use of AI at last

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

More to the point, Israel’s leverage over US politics is now getting the public scrutiny it deserves.

Turns out Israel wasn't involved in the ceasefire and aren't particularly happy about it. Doesn't exactly fit your narrative. As for public scrutiny what public scrutiny. MSM scrutiny?

3 hours ago, CallumWK said:

From the Resolute Desk of Donald J Trump

Oh we did it, folks. We did it. Nobody thought it could be done. They said, “Sir, it’s impossible. Nobody can do this.” And I said, watch. Just watch. And now, ceasefire. The greatest ceasefire. Two weeks. Nobody’s ever seen anything like it. Beautiful.

Iran, very tough people, very tough, they were saying no, no, no. And then they said yes. They said, “Sir… please.” I get that a lot. “Sir, please, can we make a deal?” And I said, maybe. Maybe we do, maybe we don’t. That’s negotiation. That’s called leverage. A lot of people don’t understand leverage. I do. The best.

We were ready, by the way. Totally ready. Planes in the air, the best planes, stealth, not even visible, you wouldn’t even see them. Bridges, power plants, boom, boom, done. Very fast. Would’ve been over in like, what, an hour? Maybe less. People said it would be the end of everything. I said, we don’t want that. We want peace. But strong peace. My kind of peace.

Then I get a call, very important call, from Shehbaz Sharif. Great guy. Highly respected. Everybody respects him. He says, “Sir, could you give it two weeks?” And I said… you know what? For you, maybe we do something. Because I like him. Good relationship. Incredible relationship. The best relationships.

And Iran sends over, ten points. Ten beautiful points. Some people are saying the most beautiful points they’ve ever seen. A lot of detail. Very smart. And I looked at it, very quickly, because I understand things very quickly, much faster than other people, and I said, this is workable. This is a deal. This is maybe the deal. Historic.

But I told them, very strongly, forcefully, OPEN the Strait. Open it. Completely, immediately, safely. The Strait of Hormuz, very important. A lot of oil. A lot of ships. The most ships. Nobody knew how important it was until I said it. Now everybody’s talking about it.

So I said, you open it, we pause. Two weeks. Not forever, because you need strength, but two weeks. And they said okay, we’ll think about it. Which means yes, by the way. That’s what that means. People don’t know that. I know that.

And now you have a double-sided ceasefire. Double-sided. Nobody’s ever done that. Usually it’s one side, maybe the other side cheats. Not here. Not with me. This is fair. Very fair. The most fair.

We’ve already won, by the way. Militarily completely. Easter was great, militarily. Totally. We achieved everything. More than anyone expected. Some generals came up to me, big strong guys, tears in their eyes, and they said, “Sir, we’ve never seen anything like this.” And I said, I know. I know.

So now we finish it. Two weeks. We finalize, we consummate, very important word, consummate, the agreement. Long-term peace. Maybe forever. Maybe longer than forever. And if not… well, we know what happens. And they know too.

But right now? Peace. Strength. Respect. Everybody’s calling. Everybody wants to be part of it. They’re saying this is the greatest negotiation ever done.

And it is. It really is.

Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Nicked from FB LOL

Pure sarcastic genius...........the problem being that it mirrors "trump-speak" so well that it could well be fact!!

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

So do you think it's too early to call total victory? IMHO it may be. Let's see what happens in the next two weeks. One thing is certain though. The Islamic regime has got smacked and got smacked very, very hard and have accepted a ceasefire and it seems the strait will be open to all shipping traffic. Regime is still in place for now but regime change was not part of the military strategy. As for "the largest military in the world had overcome a country of almost "Stone Age" people" this is simply a crazy comment. Fact is the US is the most powerful armed force in the world and the Islamic regime were no match for the combined forces of the US and the IDF. To call them "stone age" though is well off the mark. In the Middle East they WERE quite powerful.

That wasn't my point, which was that in other wars, the aggressor never boasted about what they had done to the other side.........that is the type of thing that the Chief Clowns of trump and hegseth do because it massages their fragile egos and they are also desperate for the support of the MAGA morons.

37 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Turns out Israel wasn't involved in the ceasefire and aren't particularly happy about it.

Colour me surprised that the zionist war criminals aren't happy about. What are the odds they are bombing again before the weekend?

3 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

Colour me surprised that the zionist war criminals aren't happy about. What are the odds they are bombing again before the weekend?

For how much?