44 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

He shouldn't be there in the first place. Regarding fuel price, here is the bad news. It will take months if not years from the war end to bring fuel price back to pre-war status. Oil price will remain elevated due to supply limitation and re-routing of tankers. Some of the major oil producing infrastructures will need years to repair and back on stream.

Agree....on top of that, the oil companies and companies down stream will make effort to price gouge for the foreseeable.

2 minutes ago, Presnock said:

In name only with a "junior" as khamenie was killed but his son who reportedly is even worse than his father! so the regime is still in power.

Absolutely.....and no guarantee this "change in personnel" won't have an even more negative impact on the rest of the world.

5 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

You obviously don't know the definition of fundamentalist.

These nutters. I might have included Hegseth. They are all beyond a bad joke.

1 minute ago, IsmeUno said:

These nutters. I might have included Hegseth. They are all beyond a bad joke.

Could not watch that.......so weird.

29 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

The regimes navy has been sunk, missiles, missile launchers and drones capacity massively depleted, top tier leaders killed, military industrial capacity heavily damaged, no air force to speak of etc. Something tells me at this point the Islamic terrorist regime is not better off now than they were four and a half weeks ago.

And yet the cease fire includes Iran not raining these supposedly destroyed missiles on US forces and Israel.

31 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

Let's see if any of that happens...

I seem to recall that the Iranians had not agreed to the 15 US points and insisted on their 10 points previously so it seems to me that the US did back down from their threat !

7 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

The United States and Iran agreed to ceasefire proposal to allow for negotiation and for marine traffic through the strait for that period. The 10 points proposal was put forward by the Islamic regime and Trump has called the plan "a workable basis to negotiate". To me, it seem that Trump has relented his tough stance and he is feeling the pressure politically and economically. The 10 pts proposal are tough to be accepted wholesale and I am sure that the regime does not expect that they will get all their points accepted. The GCC countries will have a big role to play in the negotiation and so is Israel post Netanyahu. My 2 cents worth of opinion.

Well, I too have been following these daily back and forths, the 10-point Iranian stance was provided to Trump earlier and included that the Strait would remain in Iranian control which Trump has said he would not approve earlier. Of course he changes his mind instantaneously as he really has no idea of what he is doing IMHO. He has stated previously that his HS military training makes him smarter than the US military academy graduates. He also states that he fears NOTHING but we know he is afraid of actual combat and the release of ALL the Epstein files which will then enable all to see just how horrible a person he is IMHO and why he won't release the files.

32 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

The regimes navy has been sunk, missiles, missile launchers and drones capacity massively depleted, top tier leaders killed, military industrial capacity heavily damaged, no air force to speak of etc. Something tells me at this point the Islamic terrorist regime is not better off now than they were four and a half weeks ago.

And, you think that the US won? while most of the world seems to me to have lost except for PUTIN of course and Trump has enabled Russia to be able to afford more combat in the Ukraine!

10 minutes ago, MIke B Bad said:

Agree....on top of that, the oil companies and companies down stream will make effort to price gouge for the foreseeable.

But, don't forget, Trump has now allowed PUTIN to sell oil at higher prices with most sanctions lifted!

5 minutes ago, Presnock said:

But, don't forget, Trump has now allowed PUTIN to sell oil at higher prices with most sanctions lifted!

Funding the war against Ukraine....pure genius.

I'm glad america surrendered to Iran. After the american landed invasion forces were decimated by Iran in the battle of Isfahan, america had realized they suffered too many humiliating losses at the hands of Iran. Men will not be wearing white socks in Tehran!

4 minutes ago, 1tooth said:

I'm glad america surrendered to Iran. After the american landed invasion forces were decimated by Iran in the battle of Isfahan, america had realized they suffered too many humiliating losses at the hands of Iran. Men will not be wearing white socks in Tehran!

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/04/07/world/live-news/iran-war-trump-us-israel

5555

1 hour ago, Presnock said:

So you are predicting that Trump will accept the 10 demands of the Iranians?

Yes. Trump always capitulates, and he couldn't negotiate his way out of a paper bag if his incredible pathetic life depended upon it.

It will likely be a secret deal that the public doesn't know about, in order for him to save his sorry face. Trump lost the war. Period.

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Yes. Trump always capitulates, and he couldn't negotiate his way out of a paper bag if his incredible pathetic life depended upon it.

It will likely be a secret deal that the public doesn't know about, in order for him to save his sorry face. Trump lost the war. Period.

And the American fools will have to pay for it !!!

2 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

And the American fools will have to pay for it !!!

Relax.....tariff money will cover it.....oh! wait...?

1 minute ago, MIke B Bad said:

Relax.....tariff money will cover it.....oh! wait...?

yeah I read that over 3000 businesses have already filed for reimbursement since SCOTUS declared the tariffs illegal but also that the Trumpers are making it difficult for any quick reimbursement. IMHO probably because he and his cronies have already split up the difference in their corruption prone manner.

1 minute ago, Presnock said:

yeah I read that over 3000 businesses have already filed for reimbursement since SCOTUS declared the tariffs illegal but also that the Trumpers are making it difficult for any quick reimbursement. IMHO probably because he and his cronies have already split up the difference in their corruption prone manner.

Wait!............. the DOGE cheques haven't gone out yet......maybe cancel those and use that money for the excursion into Iran

2 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

How did he lose the war?

If that is a question looking for a simple answer, the answer is because Trump is a moron.

Iran has a cease fire, which gives them time to develop a strategy, redeploy forces and weapons, and get ready for the inevitable breaking of the cease fire. Iran still controls the Strait, and they are selling lots of oil $40 per barrel higher than 27 February. Iran submitted a 10 point "peace plan", which gives Iran everything, including reparations. They won't get it, but neither will Trump get anything.

The US is depleted militarily, and it will be years before it has the same level of strength it had on 27 February. Domestic US prices will jump, which is not going to help Repubs in the midterms. The entire world has seen Trump's bizarre Tweets and knows he is batsh!t crazy. It will be a generation or more, if ever, that anyone trusts the US again.

Oh, and Iran still has all the MEU it had on 27 February, plus a leader named "Ayatollah Khamenei".

Plus ca change.

2 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

So you want Trump to continue fighting for months? It is great news if the war ends soon. Lower fuel prices for all.

after so much bruhaba, insults and flip flops what did he "really" accomplished, if he accepts the 10 points ceasefire the Gulf States will not forgive him as Iran will always be a step ahead of them

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

The regimes navy has been sunk, missiles, missile launchers and drones capacity massively depleted, top tier leaders killed, military industrial capacity heavily damaged, no air force to speak of etc. Something tells me at this point the Islamic terrorist regime is not better off now than they were four and a half weeks ago.

Personally, I would appreciate a broadcast of the 10 Iranian points - for sure they will not give up control of the strait, plus IMHO they will also include payment for damages which the US will no be able to do as Congress will not give him that money, just like they will not give him 1.5 trillion dollars next year for the War Department. They presented 10 point previously but we were not informed what those were either but Trump kept saying that the Strait had to be open to all traffic in a safe manner. We will see of course, possibly just another stall while he tries to find some valid reason for his actions.

Bet money they are serving tacos in the kremlin and Tehran!wonder how much everyone is going to have to pay for Donald’s play war leader fiasco.tired of winning yet?

3 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

And hasn't the real goal been so far accomplished? We're not talking about the Epstein Files, are we?

Spot on

Mans a perverted demented maniac

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Huge win for Trump.

Yuge.

having to pay for what he did/destroyed, yes that's a great, huge win.... but don't know if the gulf states are/will be happy

Google the 10 points presented by the Iranian side which include reparations for damages from the US, recognition of Iranian right of nuclear determination, control of Strait of Hormuz by Iranian military - plus plus...these seem to be exactly what Trump doesn't want IMHO but I sure don't see how else he will be able to get out of that area. I also saw on the news this AM, Iranian citizens were marching onto the bridges and surrounding power plants, etc waving Iranian flags, and many children. They reportedly were doing this so that the Pilots coming to bomb them would see that they were bombing civilians, not military targets, thus war crimes against the lower ranks too. I realize of course that the Iranian hard liners were probably making the citizens do this and only where it could be filmed for the media as the Iranians seem to know how to manipulate the media even better than Trump IMHO anyway.

52 minutes ago, MIke B Bad said:

Funding the war against Ukraine....pure genius.

52 minutes ago, MIke B Bad said:

Funding the war against Ukraine....pure genius.

52 minutes ago, MIke B Bad said:

Funding the war against Ukraine....pure genius.

Especially since (Purin) his bossIMHO is prohibiting him from US help in the battle

36 minutes ago, MIke B Bad said:

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/04/07/world/live-news/iran-war-trump-us-israel

5555

IMHO I fail to understand how he can claim this unless he is giving in to the 10-point Iranians as a victory for him instead of having to have 15 out of 15 for his demands which are basically 100% different from the Iranians.

23 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

after so much bruhaba, insults and flip flops what did he "really" accomplished, if he accepts the 10 points ceasefire the Gulf States will not forgive him as Iran will always be a step ahead of them

I have read where every go, stop reverse go stop reverse etc. somebody with seemingly with insider information that the US was going to do this was pumping hundreds of millions of dollars into which way the oil or stocks would move. Amazing that the news reported it without Congress opening an investigation.

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And on that small point:

“The prime minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, has issued a statement saying he supports the US decision to suspend attacks against Iran for two weeks but the ceasefire does not include fighting against Hezbollah forces in Lebanon.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2026/apr/07/iran-war-live-updates-trump-hormuz-threats-deadline-strikes-middle-east-conflict

So Israel doesn't need to fight on two fronts any more! 55555!

Wow Trump just keeps winning

You da man, man.

A credit to America

1 hour ago, MIke B Bad said:

And new leaders replaced them hours later....no regime change (might even be worse)........doubt Russia gives a monkey's

Russia lost 700,000 men. Four years of fighting. If Iran bombed the White House and killed the leaders then hit 3,000 targets would you claim they were losing? You American haters are on another planet. Iran has been crushed.

6 minutes ago, EastBayRay said:

Wow Trump just keeps winning

You da man, man.

A credit to America

If that's winning, countries are going to be lining up to get attacked by Trump.

Iran agreed to the 10 point peace plan Iran submitted. "Here's our plan, and we are in full agreement with our plan".

That's a huge win for Iran, and a huge loss for Trump.

In case you missed it, this is the deal Iran submitted that got Trump to taco:

1. The US must fundamentally commit to guaranteeing non-aggression.

2. Continuation of Iran’s control over the Strait of Hormuz.

3. Acceptance that Iran can enrich uranium for its nuclear program

4. Removal of all primary sanctions on Iran.

5. Removal of all secondary sanctions against foreign entities that do business with Iranian institutions).

6. End of all United Security Council resolutions targeting Iran.

7. End of all International Atomic Energy Agency resolutions on Iran’s nuclear program.

8. Compensation payment to Iran for war damage.

9. Withdrawal of US combat forces from the region.

10. Cease-fire on all fronts, including Israel’s conflict with Hezbollah in Lebanon.

Trump got hosed. Epic failure.

Now once Trump comes to the realization everyone except Trump and his remaining clueless cult knows Trump lost, he will be humiliated and likely go back to his genocide plan.