1 minute ago, impulse said:

I'd add the benefit of being able to thumb your noses at the Euros regarding the half a million migrants gathered in Libya for their trek to "Europe". And that's just in Libya. There's more all over the Med.

The Greeks are raising the alarm mostly because that's where they're likely to make landfall in the Land of Free Stuff. Then, they'll be distributed to the EU states.

Sadly, though you have the ability to thumb your noses, I'm not sure your leaders have the will...

Don't forget the 500,000 illegals that Spain is about to legalise.

Its only just beginning of the invasion and the EU are supporting it.

Brexit gave us the padlock to the front door. Unfortunately the Tories and Labour put it on the shelf and left the door wide open, hence their respective collapses. Reform won't and Restore would not only use the padlock but have a shotgun pointing out of the letterbox.

Once we have a proper government Brexit will prove to be the best thing we ever did as Europe gets overrun by illegal incompatible undesirables from intolerant third world hell holes.

Of course the likes of @RayC only talk about imagined GDP benefits and ignore culture, safety and community.

40 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Please provide the exact figures that the UK would have had if we remained in the EU. With links.

Don't forget to include the billions we save every year by not having to prop up the basket cases like Poland and Greece in your calculations.

As well as the improved tariff deals we have with the likes of America compared to the EU.

We will never rejoin. There is no will on either side.

Habitue-toi Raymondo. Habitue-toi.

Ho hum ... Here we go again.

It's a waste of time posting links because your head is firmly buried in the ground. If I had a pound for every time I posted a link to the OBR report detailing the negative effects of Brexit, Elon Musk would be approaching me for a loan! Nevertheless, below there's a link to another report which confirms the same thing. Brexit is a failure. Plenty more where that came from. You could start by browsing the material on that site.

"Improved tariff deals" 😂😂😂😂😂 ... Please stop ... 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Greece and Poland are "basket cases"? Take a look at recent growth figures. You do the searching.

When it comes to Brexit related matters, no one could ever accuse you of letting facts interfere with your thought processes, Jonny.

https://ukandeu.ac.uk/brexits-impact-on-the-uk-economy/

Don't forget the 500,000 illegals that Spain is about to legalise.

Its only just beginning of the invasion and the EU are supporting it.

You'd think the Spaniards would know better. It took them 800 years to get their country back last time.

43 minutes ago, impulse said:

I'd add the benefit of being able to thumb your noses at the Euros regarding the half a million migrants gathered in Libya for their trek to "Europe". And that's just in Libya. There's more all over the Med.

The Greeks are raising the alarm mostly because that's where they're likely to make landfall in the Land of Free Stuff. Then, they'll be distributed to the EU states.

Sadly, though you have the ability to thumb your noses, I'm not sure your leaders have the will...

Right. Because since Brexit there has been a dramatic downturn in the number of illegal immigrants arriving in the UK .... oh, hold on .....

@JonnyF I'll save you bother of posting. That's because 1) the French are loading them onto dinghies with a baguette and some Brie for the journey 2) the ECHR and 3) our traitorous governments have done nothing to stop them 😂😂😂😂

@JonnyF I'll save you bother of posting. That's because 1) the French are loading them onto dinghies with a baguette and some Brie for the journey 2) the ECHR and 3) our traitorous governments have done nothing to stop them

You nailed it.

38 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Don't forget the 500,000 illegals that Spain is about to legalise.

Its only just beginning of the invasion and the EU are supporting it.

Brexit gave us the padlock to the front door. Unfortunately the Tories and Labour put it on the shelf and left the door wide open, hence their respective collapses. Reform won't and Restore would not only use the padlock but have a shotgun pointing out of the letterbox.

Once we have a proper government Brexit will prove to be the best thing we ever did as Europe gets overrun by illegal incompatible undesirables from intolerant third world hell holes.

Of course the likes of @RayC only talk about imagined GDP benefits and ignore culture, safety and community.

'Why always me?'

AN's very own Mario Balotelli.

2 minutes ago, impulse said:

You nailed it.

I rest my case.

If you are American it would have been wise to have pleaded the Fifth.

7 hours ago, Hummin said:

ding a bubble around ourselves and pretending we can live outside nature. But we cannot.

1 hour ago, RayC said:

Right. Because since Brexit there has been a dramatic downturn in the number of illegal immigrants arriving in the UK .... oh, hold on .....

@JonnyF I'll save you bother of posting. That's because 1) the French are loading them onto dinghies with a baguette and some Brie for the journey 2) the ECHR and 3) our traitorous governments have done nothing to stop them 😂😂😂😂

Looks like you're finally catching on, apart from the fact that the existence of the EU itself facilitates this free-flow of migrants to The Channel and I'm not sure if it's brie or camembert.

2 hours ago, RayC said:

Ho hum ... Here we go again.

It's a waste of time posting links because your head is firmly buried in the ground. If I had a pound for every time I posted a link to the OBR report detailing the negative effects of Brexit, Elon Musk would be approaching me for a loan! Nevertheless, below there's a link to another report which confirms the same thing. Brexit is a failure. Plenty more where that came from. You could start by browsing the material on that site.

"Improved tariff deals" 😂😂😂😂😂 ... Please stop ... 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Greece and Poland are "basket cases"? Take a look at recent growth figures. You do the searching.

When it comes to Brexit related matters, no one could ever accuse you of letting facts interfere with your thought processes, Jonny.

https://ukandeu.ac.uk/brexits-impact-on-the-uk-economy/

The old economy only chestnut as ever.

43 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Looks like you're finally catching on, apart from the fact that the existence of the EU itself facilitates this free-flow of migrants to The Channel and I'm not sure if it's brie or camembert.

13 minutes ago, nauseus said:

The old economy only chestnut as ever.

As usual: No facts, no substance.

16 hours ago, RayC said:

That's because 1) the French are loading them onto dinghies with a baguette and some Brie for the journey 2) the ECHR and 3) our traitorous governments have done nothing to stop them

Good to see you're finally starting to figure it out Raymond.

Took a while...

16 hours ago, RayC said:

Right. Because since Brexit there has been a dramatic downturn in the number of illegal immigrants arriving in the UK .... oh, hold on ...

Like I said Ray, Brexit gave us the padlock to the door.

That successive governments have chosen to refuse to use it and instead leave that door wide open with a delicious buffet on the table is not the fault of Brexit.

But don't worry Reform will be in power soon. Then you can moan for 10 years about that vote, call for a rerun, insult the voters etc.

16 hours ago, RayC said:

'Why always me?'

AN's very own Mario Balotelli.

Translation : "I don't have an answer for any of that" 😀

5 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Good to see you're finally starting to figure it out Raymond.

Took a while...

Sarcasm, Jonathan. Supposedly the lowest form of wit but it still appears to have gone over your head😉

3 minutes ago, RayC said:

Sarcasm, Jonathan. Supposedly the lowest form of wit but it still appears to have gone over your head😉

Fear not Raymond. I didn't REALLY think you were capable of figuring out something so painfully obvious. Unfortunately not everyone gains wisdom with age as you frequently prove on here. Cognitive shifts are rare in the over 70s.

Even if you had a late life epiphany, you certainly wouldn't admit to it on here. 😄

5 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Like I said Ray, Brexit gave us the padlock to the door.

That successive governments have chosen to refuse to use it and instead leave that door wide open with a delicious buffet on the table is not the fault of Brexit.

But don't worry Reform will be in power soon. Then you can moan for 10 years about that vote, call for a rerun, insult the voters etc.

Presumably this padlock that you refer to would keep out illegal immigrants? So what form does it take? Leaving the ECHR might speed up deportations but would it deter individuals? Arguable. In any event, there would almost certainly be a need for supplementary measures. What might they be? Sink the boats en route? I'll assume that you see the fundamental moral problem here. (Note: I am not accusing you of proposing this but some have). Intercept the boats and return them to France? Well, that's one way to start an international incident with the EU and all that entails. As Brexit proves, we need them more than we need us. Anything else?

Unsurprisingly, you don't specify the dishes contained within this 'delicious buffet' but presumably some of the dishes are economic? Given that this buffet is apparently openly visible, it does beg the question why the Brexiter governments of Johnson, Truss and Sunak didn't partake fully of it? My hypothesis is that it was full of 'off cuts' that were on the turn and could lead to food poisoning.

I'm sure that I'll have plenty to moan about in the unfortunate event that Reform do form the next government. I'm also convinced that the increasing number of voters calling for us to rejoin the EU will continue its' upward trajectory. It's doubtful that we will rejoin before the mid-30s but rejoin we will. It is inevitable.

19 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Fear not Raymond. I didn't REALLY think you were capable of figuring out something so painfully obvious. Unfortunately not everyone gains wisdom with age as you frequently prove on here. Cognitive shifts are rare in the over 70s.

Even if you had a late life epiphany, you certainly wouldn't admit to it on here. 😄

I'm always happy to learn, Jonathan, and there's still time as I'm 67, so perhaps you would be kind enough to list all the benefits of Brexit for me (I doubt that it will take you long). We can then compare them to my list of disadvantages (Advanced warning: I will need some time to compile this list due to its size). Please avoid analogies and stick to actual benefits. Thanks.

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Translation : "I don't have an answer for any of that" 😀

There is nothing that needs translation. Your posts could be written in any language and they would still lack substance and meaning.