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John Bolton Calls Iran Deal a US Setback

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34 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

45 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

45 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Any you are another leftist Obama sycophant that cannot stand for Trump to be allowed even one fair word to be spoken about him.

John Bolton lost he security clearance a year and a half ago, he has been indited, and he awaits tril.

He has no inside information, knows nothing about the negotiations, and he is likely just pandering to the press for favorable coverage for his upcoming trial, where he'll be playing the victim and calling the trial retribution.

The left hated Boltan for thirty years, now he's your hero because he writes a hit piece to undermine the United States in Iran conflict.

Yet another ad hominem attack from you.

As I clearly stated, I am no fan of Bolton and he's never been or never will be my 'hero'. I'm not 'leftist' (anothe one of your favourites) and I'm no 'Obama sycophant' (although compared to Trump the man is an angel). If Trump did anything I thought was good and decent then he would get plenty of 'fair words' from me but he doesn't do anything redeemable other than look after billionaires, line his own pockets, sow discontent and cause havoc on the world stage. I don't give two hoots about how Americans are affected by him (you voted for him - you live with the consequences) but through his dumb tarriffs and now this completely unneccessary war, he is affecting my business and therefore myself personally. And I'm not the only one suffering from his hubris and complete lack of understanding of how the world is integrated together.

Bolton is just voicing what many, many others think in that Trump has backed himself into a corner due to an ill-fated war that should never have happened.

So how about debating THAT opinion rather than your usual juvenile character assignations? Do you actually think Trump is in a strong position to negotiate with Iran when Iran knows that gas prices are through the roof (even in America) and there's the mid-term elections coming and his approval ratings have sunk to an all time low?

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2 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

Yet another ad hominem attack from you.

As I clearly stated, I am no fan of Bolton and he's never been or never will be my 'hero'. I'm not 'leftist' (anothe one of your favourites) and I'm no 'Obama sycophant' (although compared to Trump the man is an angel). If Trump did anything I thought was good and decent then he would get plenty of 'fair words' from me but he doesn't do anything redeemable other than look after billionaires, line his own pockets, sow discontent and cause havoc on the world stage. I don't give two hoots about how Americans are affected by him (you voted for him - you live with the consequences) but through his dumb tarriffs and now this completely unneccessary war, he is affecting my business and therefore myself personally. And I'm not the only one suffering from his hubris and complete lack of understanding of how the world is integrated together.

Bolton is just voicing what many, many others think in that Trump has backed himself into a corner due to an ill-fated war that should never have happened.

So how about debating THAT opinion rather than your usual juvenile character assignations? Do you actually think Trump is in a strong position to negotiate with Iran when Iran knows that gas prices are through the roof (even in America) and there's the mid-term elections coming and his approval ratings have sunk to an all time low?

In response to your ad holmium attack.

Poor lefty, you want to attack others, but the moment they respond in kind you moan about it.

3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

The left hated Boltan for thirty years, now he's your hero because he writes a hit piece to undermine the United States in Iran conflict.

He has not written a "hit piece to undermine the United States", he's simply called Trump an <deleted> and man baby has thrown the toys out of the pram again.

You, who can't tell the difference between a great, proud and powerful nation and the oxygen wasting grifting imposter in the White House, accusing others of being a sycophant would be blindingly ironic, if it wasn't so awfully pathetic.

As for Boltan (sic) being indited (sic) and claiming the tril (sic) is all about retribution, of course that's what it is. It's Trump's standard modus operandi when someone, anyone, publicly embarrasses or humiliates him and refuses to be thrown under the bus.

39 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

In response to your ad holmium attack.

Poor lefty, you want to attack others, but the moment they respond in kind you moan about it.

It's spelled 'ad hominem'. Don't worry about it though. I know these tactics well and understand they are just to distract from actually answering any questions in a meaningful way because you simply don't have the answers. Just name-calling and ad hominem.

But thanks for playing.

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1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

This is what you consider an argument? Weak brother, even for you.

And more lies from you. I, along with many/most Trump supporters despise a lot or what Trump says and does, we just don't despise it enough to allow the left to turn the US into Europe.

My country would have been much worse after another year and a half of Obama/Biden/Harris than it is now under Trump. You disagree, you (apparently) hate Israel, love Iran and their proxies, want more mass migration, more DEI, men in girls' showers and bigger government. I do not want those things.

You and I want different things for the United States. I love the United States, and I want it to be strong, free and prosperous. I do not think you want that.

I'm not in an argument. Simply stating an opinion from the evidence of what I see here. That many of the Trump supporters seem equally unhinged.

You state that you despise a lot of what Trump says and does, but that does not reflect in your posts here. Ever.

Going further, if anyone shows any sign of 'despising' what he says and does, you are here, on the defence, thinking that you are somehow defending your country by trying to defend the indefensible.

Your statements and premises confused. If you, as a normal human being, despise some of what he says and does, then why do you attack normal people who do the same? Accusing them of hating Trump for merely pointing out some of the despicable things he says and does?

Can you not see the strange behaviour that you are exhibiting? Re-join the human race. Do unto others...

Only then will you understand the damage done by that malignant administration. If you are really a man of faith, you know that they are not. You know they just use it to manipulate people. Good people don't do that.

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

He has not written a "hit piece to undermine the United States", he's simply called Trump an <deleted> and man baby has thrown the toys out of the pram again.

You, who can't tell the difference between a great, proud and powerful nation and the oxygen wasting grifting imposter in the White House, accusing others of being a sycophant would be blindingly ironic, if it wasn't so awfully pathetic.

As for Boltan (sic) being indited (sic) and claiming the tril (sic) is all about retribution, of course that's what it is. It's Trump's standard modus operandi when someone, anyone, publicly embarrasses or humiliates him and refuses to be thrown under the bus.

The man sued his own niece for US$100,000,000 for revealing his lies.

Though of course he won't attend court for a deposition, as he's too busy as a sitting President.

https://www.courthousenews.com/trumps-niece-whom-hes-suing-says-hes-stalling-his-deposition/

5 minutes ago, FigLeaf said:

I'm not in an argument. Simply stating an opinion from the evidence of what I see here. That many of the Trump supporters seem equally unhinged.

You state that you despise a lot of what Trump says and does, but that does not reflect in your posts here. Ever.

Going further, if anyone shows any sign of 'despising' what he says and does, you are here, on the defence, thinking that you are somehow defending your country by trying to defend the indefensible.

Your statements and premises confused. If you, as a normal human being, despise some of what he says and does, then why do you attack normal people who do the same? Accusing them of hating Trump for merely pointing out some of the despicable things he says and does?

Can you not see the strange behaviour that you are exhibiting? Re-join the human race. Do unto others...

Only then will you understand the damage done by that malignant administration. If you are really a man of faith, you know that they are not. You know they just use it to manipulate people. Good people don't do that.

Ah, so it's your position that there is something wrong with me, and all Trump supporters, otherwise I/we would obsess with hating Trump the way you do, yet you claim to be the "normal" one.

And you really address nothing I said, except to falsely claim that I "...attack normal people who do the same? Accusing them of hating Trump for merely pointing out some of the despicable things he says and does?"

Why not address what I actually said, which was that: I, along with many/most Trump supporters despise a lot or what Trump says and does, we just don't despise it enough to allow the left to turn the US into Europe.

My country would have been much worse after another year and a half of Obama/Biden/Harris than it is now under Trump. You disagree, you (apparently) hate Israel, love Iran and their proxies, want more mass migration, more DEI, men in girls' showers and bigger government. I do not want those things.

You and I want different things for the United States. I love the United States, and I want it to be strong, free and prosperous. I do not think you want that.

Why not address that rather than just attacking me?

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Ah, so it's your position that there is something wrong with me, and all Trump supporters, otherwise I/we would obsess with hating Trump the way you do, yet you claim to be the "normal" one.

And you really address nothing I said, except to falsely claim that I "...attack normal people who do the same? Accusing them of hating Trump for merely pointing out some of the despicable things he says and does?"

Why not address what I actually said, which was that: I, along with many/most Trump supporters despise a lot or what Trump says and does, we just don't despise it enough to allow the left to turn the US into Europe.

My country would have been much worse after another year and a half of Obama/Biden/Harris than it is now under Trump. You disagree, you (apparently) hate Israel, love Iran and their proxies, want more mass migration, more DEI, men in girls' showers and bigger government. I do not want those things.

You and I want different things for the United States. I love the United States, and I want it to be strong, free and prosperous. I do not think you want that.

Why not address that rather than just attacking me?

Arguments, attacks...that's all your world.

Just as I would not involve myself with what seemed to be ranting madman in real life, why do you expect me to engage with one here?

It's not just 'the Left' that despises what the man says and does. You admit to it too. But then you start ranting about Europe and the Left, completely ignoring the elephant in the room. That this isn't about the Left, but that you have a deranged, narcissistic madman in the White House.

I cannot engage with delusion and fantasy about what might have happened. We are discussing reality here. He even lies about being friends with world leaders. It's beyond pathetic. Is America now just a casino economy? Place ya bets.

Let's talk about real things, not wild fantasies about people loving Iran, then complaining about ad hominem attacks.

You cannot engage with a mad man. The mad man has to come to his senses in order to be able to make sense of things. Savvy?

As your fairly new here you will soon see his and other members of his club, posting the same nonsense. If you get one over them they wont post a response they will just throw in Biden, Harris, or Obama, its called deflection, you will seE it regular from them, but you cannot call members liars on open forum. I expect an apology from him but it wont happen Figleaf.

18 minutes ago, FigLeaf said:

Arguments, attacks...that's all your world.

Just as I would not involve myself with what seemed to be ranting madman in real life, why do you expect me to engage with one here?

It's not just 'the Left' that despises what the man says and does. You admit to it too. But then you start ranting about Europe and the Left, completely ignoring the elephant in the room. That this isn't about the Left, but that you have a deranged, narcissistic madman in the White House.

I cannot engage with delusion and fantasy about what might have happened. We are discussing reality here. He even lies about being friends with world leaders. It's beyond pathetic. Is America now just a casino economy? Place ya bets.

Let's talk about real things, not wild fantasies about people loving Iran, then complaining about ad hominem attacks.

You cannot engage with a mad man. The mad man has to come to his senses in order to be able to make sense of things. Savvy?

So still unable to have an actual discussion.

14 minutes ago, FigLeaf said:

But yet he accuses anyone who isn't a lover of Donald Trump, of loving Iran and it's proxies... The man is completely lost. Just a poor, confused character.

Dont worry about it ! you will soon see he has lost the plot as his hero trump has ! he just repeats the same post time and time again just ignore he will go away !

17 minutes ago, FigLeaf said:

But yet he accuses anyone who isn't a lover of Donald Trump, of loving Iran and it's proxies... The man is completely lost. Just a poor, confused character.

And like your pal, you have nothing to say on topic, so you discuss me. How weak you are. Education or history major?

Just now, MikeandDow said:

Dont worry about it ! you will soon see he has lost the plot as his hero trump has ! he just repeats the same post time and time again just ignore he will go away !

And here is yet another that is unable to discuss the topic and it only able to attack those he disagrees with. How predictable that you are weighing in here.

And none of you US citizens yet still obsessed with Trump.

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So still unable to have an actual discussion.

I can. You cannot.

Even though Bolton is not on the Left, you come up with some other tactic in defence of your Dear Leader. For you, it's a fight, not a discussion. You must appear to win. Just like your Dear Leader. You are lost. There's no point in trying to have a normal discussion with you. Your mind is twisted. Bent. You are overriding normal and decent humanity and replacing it with nationalism. That's your excuse. I cannot make it any more plain than that..

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The worst witness protection disguise ever, how can you take his word on anything?

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