No problem. America and Europe have been supporting and funding this since 1947. Carry on the good work?

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35 minutes ago, Sigmund said:

No problem. America and Europe have been supporting and funding this since 1947. Carry on the good work?

Jews don't realise they're useful idiots.
They've been brainwashed to believe everyone wants to turn them into soap or lampshades (hyper paranoia) and have been stuck bang in the middle of the Middle East as a way for big money interests (not just 'jews') to be able to trigger wars at will when they need an excuse to print money.

Also note that they're treated like <deleted> when it's convenient - eg. most vaccinated country in the world.

6 hours ago, WDSmart said:

A family also has "some bastards wanting more than their fair share" (capitalist types). A true socialist society will, just like a family, accept them while trying to change them, but never completely reject them.

Where does this true socialist society exist ?

By the way, as a true socialist , do you give all your money away to other poorer people and live on the Thai average of 15 000

baht a month ?

1 hour ago, Tourist2 said:

First of all, none of the three countries above had a true socialist or communist economy.
Second, what made these countries abhorrent was their form of government, not their economies. They were all authoritarian governments.

It's interesting, though, that they all had red-backgrounded flags.

10 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Where does this true socialist society exist ?

By the way, as a true socialist , do you give all your money away to other poorer people and live on the Thai average of 15 000

baht a month ?

There have been some communities with a true socialist economy - at least as they have been described. Most native peoples, such as American Indians and Eskimos, had what has been described as a true socialist, or even communist, economy. Those who were able went out and brought back food. That food was shared with the tribal community.

Also, it is recorded that tribal communities (socialist/communist) didn't reject people who were different than the norm, like homosexuals or even trans people. They, like a family, just accepted them and provided for their needs.

I do give a lot of my money away to Thai people. First of all, I always leave a large tip at restaurants. But most of all, I give away a lot of money to families who live around me. Yesterday, I gave a family THB 1,000 so they could go to the vet and get their female dogs spayed. Today, I gave away THB 1,000 to my wife's ex-husband so he could go to the hospital to get help with his back, which is injured. I also employ several neighbors to do work around my house and usually pay them THB 500 per day.

Family...

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1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

There have been some communities with a true socialist economy - at least as they have been described. Most native peoples, such as American Indians and Eskimos, had what has been described as a true socialist, or even communist, economy.

Yes but those guys rode yaks and buffalo for transport and their average life expectancy was 27.

I said IRL. Socialism and communism is fine within the family unit but doesn't work outside of it.

If it was so great, why are you living in a capitalist country? Why not move to North Korea?
Put your money (I know) where your mouth is.
FFS.

5 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

There have been some communities with a true socialist economy - at least as they have been described. Most native peoples, such as American Indians and Eskimos, had what has been described as a true socialist, or even communist, economy. Those who were able went out and brought back food. That food was shared with the tribal community.

Also, it is recorded that tribal communities (socialist/communist) didn't reject people who were different than the norm, like homosexuals or even trans people. They, like a family, just accepted them and provided for their needs.

....................and how are the American Indians and Eskimos getting on ?

Have they put a man on the moon yet ?

Edited August 29Aug 29 by Nick Carter icp

3 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:

Yes but those guys rode yaks and buffalo for transport and their average life expectancy was 27.

I said IRL. Socialism and communism is fine within the family unit but doesn't work outside of it.

If it was so great, why are you living in a capitalist country? Why not move to North Korea?
Put your money (I know) where your mouth is.
FFS.

"Those guys rode yaks and buffalo," and today people drive cars and trucks and fly on airplanes. It's the mode of transportation that was available at the time. Our life expectancy now is a little over 70, and that is part of what is contributing to our continuing destruction of the Earth's environment - human overpopulation.

I had to look up IRL and found out it means the Republic of Ireland. So what does Ireland have to do with all of this? I do associate Ireland with having, at least at one time, a very family-oriented, socialist society, but that's just what I've read. I've only been to Ireland once, and then only for a few days.

Thailand, like most countries, has a mixed economy. It is a mix of capitalism and socialism. But Thailand's mix has a much higher percentage of socialism than most Western states. I do appreciate that.

North Korea claims to be communist, but it's not. And North Korea's government is a dictatorship, and I don't like that. My first choice would be a democracy, but I'm also okay with living in a republic like Thailand or even my home country, the USA.

9 hours ago, WDSmart said:

Again, I say that I, and I think most of those who are against Israel's genocidal activities, am not "jew hating" or anti-Jewish. I am anti-Zionist.

then you are a jew hater. own it.

2 hours ago, WDSmart said:

I had to look up IRL and found out it means the Republic of Ireland. So what does Ireland have to do with all of this?

IRL = In Real Life

11 hours ago, WDSmart said:

There have been some communities with a true socialist economy - at least as they have been described. Most native peoples, such as American Indians and Eskimos, had what has been described as a true socialist, or even communist, economy. Those who were able went out and brought back food. That food was shared with the tribal community.

Also, it is recorded that tribal communities (socialist/communist) didn't reject people who were different than the norm, like homosexuals or even trans people. They, like a family, just accepted them and provided for their needs.

I do give a lot of my money away to Thai people. First of all, I always leave a large tip at restaurants. But most of all, I give away a lot of money to families who live around me. Yesterday, I gave a family THB 1,000 so they could go to the vet and get their female dogs spayed. Today, I gave away THB 1,000 to my wife's ex-husband so he could go to the hospital to get help with his back, which is injured. I also employ several neighbors to do work around my house and usually pay them THB 500 per day.

Family...

Socialism and communism are brilliant ideas that unfortunately have only one tiny flaw: they do not work.

The same goes, by the way, for other brilliant ideas like Christianity or modern humanism, to which we all feel we belong.

As history teaches us, there will always be people who try to gain an advantage and elevate themselves above others, and even the most humane and social forms of society are, sooner or later, perverted into totalitarian regimes by some selfish and greedy egoists. Just like in the former Eastern Bloc.

Take a look at Christianity. What is the core sentence of Christianity? "Love your neighbor as yourself." That basically says it all, and there is nothing to add. If all people followed this just a little bit, our world would turn into a utopia.

But as we can see, not even Christians stick to it. The biggest lobbyists for Israel are not even AIPAC; no, it is the evangelicals, who believe that if all Jews return to Israel, Jesus will return and convert them to Christianity, and then everyone will fight together against the wicked, and in the end, good will triumph.

Or so-called humanism, to which pretty much all modern people raised in Western democracies feel they belong—a non-religious worldview that focuses on human value, reason, and science rather than religious belief and believes in protecting human rights, democracy, and treating other people and sentient animals with kindness and respect.

And based on that, human rights, which are held in such high regard especially by modern Western countries.

The last nearly three years taught us otherwise; not only the behavior of the governments of Western democracies, which actively supported the genocide, but also the many comments here in this forum clearly prove how much value some people place on the principle of equal rights for all.

22 hours ago, Yagoda said:

then you are a jew hater. own it.

I am not a Jew-hater. I am a Zionist-hater. That’s like saying, “I am not a Christian-hater. I’m a MAGA/Trump-hater.”

22 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

I had to look up IRL and found out it means the Republic of Ireland. So what does Ireland have to do with all of this?

IRL = In Real Life

Why are you using acronyms? TBH and IMO, anyone who uses acronyms is full of BS. So, all I’ve got to say to your previous post is WTF? And if you post again, I’ll just LMAO!

13 hours ago, Somjot said:

Socialism and communism are brilliant ideas that unfortunately have only one tiny flaw: they do not work.

The same goes, by the way, for other brilliant ideas like Christianity or modern humanism, to which we all feel we belong.

As history teaches us, there will always be people who try to gain an advantage and elevate themselves above others, and even the most humane and social forms of society are, sooner or later, perverted into totalitarian regimes by some selfish and greedy egoists. Just like in the former Eastern Bloc.

Take a look at Christianity. What is the core sentence of Christianity? "Love your neighbor as yourself." That basically says it all, and there is nothing to add. If all people followed this just a little bit, our world would turn into a utopia.

But as we can see, not even Christians stick to it. The biggest lobbyists for Israel are not even AIPAC; no, it is the evangelicals, who believe that if all Jews return to Israel, Jesus will return and convert them to Christianity, and then everyone will fight together against the wicked, and in the end, good will triumph.

Or so-called humanism, to which pretty much all modern people raised in Western democracies feel they belong—a non-religious worldview that focuses on human value, reason, and science rather than religious belief and believes in protecting human rights, democracy, and treating other people and sentient animals with kindness and respect.

And based on that, human rights, which are held in such high regard especially by modern Western countries.

The last nearly three years taught us otherwise; not only the behavior of the governments of Western democracies, which actively supported the genocide, but also the many comments here in this forum clearly prove how much value some people place on the principle of equal rights for all.

So what do you suggest? Should we just give up on trying to enact good ideas, like socialism and communism? Should we just resign ourselves to the notion that we’ll have to live forever in an adversarial system like capitalism that pits us against all our other fellow citizens, so the only way we can be successful is to take resources away from someone else?

I’d rather try and fail at something wonderful than settle for surviving in something based on pitiless competition.

11 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Why are you using acronyms? TBH and IMO, anyone who uses acronyms is full of BS. So, all I’ve got to say to your previous post is WTF? And if you post again, I’ll just LMAO!

It wasn't me who posted "IRL"

You didnt know what it meant and I kindly told you .

I informed you what it meant, but it was another poster who used it in reply to you . You was having conversation with Tourist2 and it was him who posted IRL

2 hours ago, WDSmart said:

I am not a Jew-hater. I am a Zionist-hater. That’s like saying, “I am not a Christian-hater. I’m a MAGA/Trump-hater.”

got it. you know that normal people despise nazis so you deny.

i give your ilk here points tho, they openly drool over the chance to murder children while you pretend you are albert speer

28 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

got it. you know that normal people despise nazis so you deny.

i give your ilk here points tho, they openly drool over the chance to murder children while you pretend you are albert speer

By that statement, you must be a Nazi., or even worse

AI Overview

More than 21,000 Palestinian children have been killed in Gaza by Israeli forces since October 2023, according to official figures cited by international organizations and UN reports. [1, 2]

Gaza Strip

• Total Deaths: Over 20,000 to 21,000 children. [1, 2]

• Injuries: More than 44,000 children injured, with thousands suffering life-altering or amputated injuries. [1, 2]

Edited August 30Aug 30 by CallumWK

2 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

By that statement, you must be a Nazi., or even worse

AI Overview

More than 21,000 Palestinian children have been killed in Gaza by Israeli forces since October 2023, according to official figures cited by international organizations and UN reports. [1, 2]

Gaza Strip

• Total Deaths: Over 20,000 to 21,000 children. [1, 2]

• Injuries: More than 44,000 children injured, with thousands suffering life-altering or amputated injuries. [1, 2]

so you contend that purported 21,000 alleged "children" out of 2 million population killed during a conflict where many of them were killed by their own side is a genocide?

got it. just another nazi idiot. so stupid your own answers hang you.

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

so you contend that purported 21,000 alleged "children" out of 2 million population killed during a conflict where many of them were killed by their own side is a genocide?

got it. just another nazi idiot. so stupid your own answers hang you.

Stop using that phrase, because it is clear that you never get it. Does that sound as killed by their own. You're just a closet Nazi in denial.

21,000 Palestinian children have been killed in Gaza by Israeli forces

Edited August 30Aug 30 by CallumWK

1 minute ago, CallumWK said:

Stop using that phrase, because it is clear that you never get it. Does that sound as killed by their own. You're just a closet Nazi in denial.

21,000 Palestinian children have been killed in Gaza by Israeli forces

got it. assuming its true, thats a genocide, right.

with absolutely no respect, you must get off playing the fool.

Just now, Yagoda said:

got it. assuming its true, thats a genocide, right.

with absolutely no respect, you must get off playing the fool.

Correct, genocide by the group you support. You're worse than a Nazi

On 7/20/2026 at 6:00 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

Th UK trying to tell Israel what to do .

British Embassy has no right to tell Israel what it should be doing and interfering with internal affairs

Edit :

Oh, and for UTP , the UK shouldn't interfere with Palestinian affairs either , not just Israel

So tell that to the US and to netanyahu.

1 minute ago, CallumWK said:

Correct, genocide by the group you support. You're worse than a Nazi

got it. you have established that you dont know what genocide is, you just want to be part of the neo nazi crowd, lol.

you are possibly the saddest person on here lol

10 hours ago, WDSmart said:

So what do you suggest? Should we just give up on trying to enact good ideas, like socialism and communism? Should we just resign ourselves to the notion that we’ll have to live forever in an adversarial system like capitalism that pits us against all our other fellow citizens, so the only way we can be successful is to take resources away from someone else?

I’d rather try and fail at something wonderful than settle for surviving in something based on pitiless competition.

Any suggestion is superfluous, because it will change absolutely nothing.

And the reality is that despite all our inventions and all our progress, we are still the same apes who were once driven out of the forest by the other primates thousands of years ago.

We have the same tribalistic instincts as our ancestors; we derive our identity from belonging to a group—whether family, ethnicity, religion, or country of birth—and try to elevate our group above others, which leads to the devaluation of or hostility toward outsiders.

This can be observed on a large scale with countries. But even within a country, subgroups emerge depending on the city of birth, and within cities, further groups form based on social status, and time and again we try to set ourselves above others.

This is our instinct, our genetically hardwired software, which cannot simply be turned off or rewritten.

And that is why it will also be our downfall.

Strictly speaking, we are evolved apes with all the jungle instincts and typical primate aggressiveness, who now possess weapons that can wipe out entire regions and make them uninhabitable at the touch of a button.

Just look at all the comments in this forum; it couldn't be more bizarre.

There are people who take away other people's land and murder them, justifying it by claiming that according to a book written 3,000 years ago by some shepherds, this land was promised to them by a supernatural being.

Yet, these same people also claim that the highest commandments of this supernatural being include, among others, "Thou shalt not kill," "Thou shalt not steal," and "Thou shalt not lie"—and yet they indulge in their bloodlust daily, justifying it with absurd excuses.

And they are supported by the Western world, which is so proud of its Christian core values based on "love thy neighbor as thyself" and its freedoms, including freedom of speech, but nevertheless has no problem sending money and weapons to mass murderers and to suppress any criticism of them within their own country.

Furthermore, here in this forum, there are adults and supposedly good people who not only support this claim to land based on the promise of a supernatural being from over 3,000 years ago, but also protect and back the mass murder of innocent people.

You couldn't even make up this kind of madness.

There is nothing that can be done.

We are doomed.

33 minutes ago, Somjot said:

Any suggestion is superfluous, because it will change absolutely nothing.

And the reality is that despite all our inventions and all our progress, we are still the same apes who were once driven out of the forest by the other primates thousands of years ago.

We have the same tribalistic instincts as our ancestors; we derive our identity from belonging to a group—whether family, ethnicity, religion, or country of birth—and try to elevate our group above others, which leads to the devaluation of or hostility toward outsiders.

This can be observed on a large scale with countries. But even within a country, subgroups emerge depending on the city of birth, and within cities, further groups form based on social status, and time and again we try to set ourselves above others.

This is our instinct, our genetically hardwired software, which cannot simply be turned off or rewritten.

And that is why it will also be our downfall.

Strictly speaking, we are evolved apes with all the jungle instincts and typical primate aggressiveness, who now possess weapons that can wipe out entire regions and make them uninhabitable at the touch of a button.

Just look at all the comments in this forum; it couldn't be more bizarre.

There are people who take away other people's land and murder them, justifying it by claiming that according to a book written 3,000 years ago by some shepherds, this land was promised to them by a supernatural being.

Yet, these same people also claim that the highest commandments of this supernatural being include, among others, "Thou shalt not kill," "Thou shalt not steal," and "Thou shalt not lie"—and yet they indulge in their bloodlust daily, justifying it with absurd excuses.

And they are supported by the Western world, which is so proud of its Christian core values based on "love thy neighbor as thyself" and its freedoms, including freedom of speech, but nevertheless has no problem sending money and weapons to mass murderers and to suppress any criticism of them within their own country.

Furthermore, here in this forum, there are adults and supposedly good people who not only support this claim to land based on the promise of a supernatural being from over 3,000 years ago, but also protect and back the mass murder of innocent people.

You couldn't even make up this kind of madness.

There is nothing that can be done.

We are doomed.

Well done, nail hit squarely on the head, politics and religion will be the human races downfall, alongside what we have done to the environment, it is only a matter of time before we are back in the stone age.

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18 hours ago, Yagoda said:

got it. you know that normal people despise nazis so you deny.

i give your ilk here points tho, they openly drool over the chance to murder children while you pretend you are albert speer

To address your point above about Nazis...
I'm sure everyone on this forum abhors the recent horrific history of the Jewish people. They were victims of the German Nazis who:

- hated them because they thought they were an inferior race

- based this hatred on their delusion of their race’s superiority;

- hated them because of their religion;

- cruelly discriminated against them because of that;

- seized their property and left them homeless;

- forced them to live in small, confined areas (concentration camps);

- indiscriminately killed their innocent men, women, and children.

...and I believe everyone on this forum is relieved that no group of people is doing that today.

As far as your second point, I’ll only ask you which terrorist group, Hamas or the Zionists, has, over the past 75 years, killed the most children?

11 hours ago, Somjot said:

Any suggestion is superfluous, because it will change absolutely nothing.

And the reality is that despite all our inventions and all our progress, we are still the same apes who were once driven out of the forest by the other primates thousands of years ago.

We have the same tribalistic instincts as our ancestors; we derive our identity from belonging to a group—whether family, ethnicity, religion, or country of birth—and try to elevate our group above others, which leads to the devaluation of or hostility toward outsiders.

This can be observed on a large scale with countries. But even within a country, subgroups emerge depending on the city of birth, and within cities, further groups form based on social status, and time and again we try to set ourselves above others.

This is our instinct, our genetically hardwired software, which cannot simply be turned off or rewritten.

And that is why it will also be our downfall.

Strictly speaking, we are evolved apes with all the jungle instincts and typical primate aggressiveness, who now possess weapons that can wipe out entire regions and make them uninhabitable at the touch of a button.

Just look at all the comments in this forum; it couldn't be more bizarre.

There are people who take away other people's land and murder them, justifying it by claiming that according to a book written 3,000 years ago by some shepherds, this land was promised to them by a supernatural being.

Yet, these same people also claim that the highest commandments of this supernatural being include, among others, "Thou shalt not kill," "Thou shalt not steal," and "Thou shalt not lie"—and yet they indulge in their bloodlust daily, justifying it with absurd excuses.

And they are supported by the Western world, which is so proud of its Christian core values based on "love thy neighbor as thyself" and its freedoms, including freedom of speech, but nevertheless has no problem sending money and weapons to mass murderers and to suppress any criticism of them within their own country.

Furthermore, here in this forum, there are adults and supposedly good people who not only support this claim to land based on the promise of a supernatural being from over 3,000 years ago, but also protect and back the mass murder of innocent people.

You couldn't even make up this kind of madness.

There is nothing that can be done.

We are doomed.

I agree with most of what you say above, but still believe, in spite of our instincts, we should try.

Below is a short story written by Peter Straub that I used to close my recent book on our (humans’) continuing degradation of the Earth’s biosphere. In spite of my conclusion, which is the same as yours above, that we are already “over the cliff” on this and will never be able to fix it, there are still some things we should do...

Once upon a time, there was an old man who used to go to the ocean to do his writing. He had a habit of walking on the beach every morning before he began his work. Early one morning, he was walking along the shore after a big storm had passed and found the vast beach littered with starfish as far as the eye could see, stretching in both directions.

Off in the distance, the old man noticed a small boy approaching. As the boy walked, he paused every so often, and as he drew closer, the man could see him bending down to pick up an object and throw it into the sea. The boy came closer still, and the man called out, “Good morning! May I ask what it is that you are doing?”

The young boy paused, looked up, and replied, “Throwing starfish into the ocean. The tide has washed them up onto the beach, and they can’t return to the sea by themselves,” the youth replied. “When the sun gets high, they will die, unless I throw them back into the water.”

The old man replied, “But there must be tens of thousands of starfish on this beach. I’m afraid you won’t really be able to make much of a difference.”

The boy bent down, picked up yet another starfish, and threw it as far as he could into the ocean. Then he turned, smiled, and said, “It made a difference to that one!” (Peter Straub, 2011)

Edited August 31Aug 31 by WDSmart