29 minutes ago, candide said:

So just Trump talking BS, as usual! 😀

Like many of the posters on AN??

8 minutes ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Like many of the posters on AN??

Thanks for your honesty! 😃

6 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Except he didn't actually say that!!

Ah the old semantics defence eh?

No, your hero didn’t use those exact words but he definitely asked that the experts “look into “ injecting bleach and then, even crazier, he wanted doctors to shine lights into patients bodies to kill the virus!

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

7 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

Remind me which actual law he broke. It will help to frame an arrest warrant.

He was an advisor. The decision makers can take the advice or ignore it. Up to them.

Perjury for starters. He DID fund GOF in Wuhan.

7 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Except he didn't actually say that!!

What he said was enough for the conspiracy theorists and fringe medical movements to widely circulated the dangerous falsehood that drinking bleach could prevent or cure COVID-19. Even marketed online as miracle chlorine solution. There were reports of hospitalization as a result of accidental drinking of bleach.

8 hours ago, AustinRacing said:

Fair enough. The complicity I was referring to was about hiding his involvement in creation of the virus and not the outbreak.

Let me guess, you done you own research?🤣

2 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Like many of the posters on AN??

I applaud you self awareness.

2 hours ago, BLMFem said:

I applaud you self awareness.

Happy to oblige as you are included!

3 hours ago, Red Forever said:

Ah the old semantics defence eh?

No, your hero didn’t use those exact words but he definitely asked that the experts “look into “ injecting bleach and then, even crazier, he wanted doctors to shine lights into patients bodies to kill the virus!

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Ah yes, the classic "semantics" pivot—the go-to defense when you get caught repeating a blatant falsehood and have to quietly move the goalposts from "he told the public to drink bleach" to "well, he asked experts questions!"

First off, Trump isn't my "hero," but I realize sticking to basic facts is a tough ask when you're busy arguing with strawmen.

Brainstorming out loud to scientists on live TV was terrible PR, sure, but he never gave a medical directive to the public.

And as for your breathless mockery of "shining light inside the body"? Maybe do a ten-second search on Cedars-Sinai’s internal UV light catheters (Healight) before assuming every medical concept you don't understand is sci-fi magic.

Admitting you fell for an exaggerated media narrative won't hurt, I promise.

15 hours ago, FlorC said:

Unbelievable that Fauci is not locked up

or even walking on this planet.

The OP is yet again an anti-Trump article,

while the real criminal is fauci.

Brainwashed MAGA dope avoiding the facts and going with head in the sand blind cult follower.

Yes, they walk among us on this planet.......

13 minutes ago, Priorexpat said:

Brainwashed MAGA dope avoiding the facts and going with head in the sand blind cult follower.

Yes, they walk among us on this planet.......

People like you are true members of a cult: the blue cult. The blue cult lacks the ability to take a deep dive into real policy issues. All you have is name-calling.

13 hours ago, Purdey said:

I am surprised that Paul got hold of a private diary with the intention of proving Fauci was to blame for COVID deaths. From the excerpts it looks like the opposite happened and Fauci's advice was ignored by the President to the detriment of the public.

Senator Rand Paul, chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, obtained the records through official congressional subpoenas as part of an ongoing inquiry into the origins of COVID-19

10 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

How did he get a hold of Fauci's private diary?

congressional subpoena

14 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Except he didn't actually say that!!

Finally! He told us to inject it! Big difference, eh.

8 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Perjury for starters. He DID fund GOF in Wuhan.

'Kay. Show me.

So Randy is an antivaxxer in our govt just like Junior!

Sounds to me like Fauci was honest. Hope to see them published.

33 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

it's weird how political leanings influence understanding of plain English. Fauci's note merely means that the very first infections more likely occurred elsewhere through contact with infected animals (source) and that social interactions at the market initiated the spread (amplification). Rand Paul is reading something not written in the diary.

DNA analysis identified two early viral variants present at the Wuhan market, supporting models of independent zoonotic spillover events (IE.... NOT from laboratory) into humans at that location.

In Hubei province...

"This analysis pushes human-to-human transmission back to mid-October to mid-November of 2019 in Hubei Province, China, with a likely short interval before epidemic transmission was initiated."

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8139421/

17 hours ago, FlorC said:

Unbelievable that Fauci is not locked up

or even walking on this planet.

The OP is yet again an anti-Trump article,

while the real criminal is fauci.

Let me see. Trust Donald Trump or Anthony Fauci? Hmm, that’s a tough one 🙄

'rambling, crazy’ Trump

Well, duh Fauci.

Anyone who's ever had the pleasure to listen to one of speeches knows his Indian name is Chief Talks Out Of Both Sides of His Mouth. 🪶

15 hours ago, AustinRacing said:

He provided funding for Wuhan research. He did his best to distance himself from the lab after it hit the fan.

Private funding from his own resources?

Or are you referring to US government funding that the arm of US government for whom he worked, directed to a lab in Wuhan?

Any legitimate sources to confirm Fauci himself sent money from his personal bank account, or had sole control over US government money that was sent there for…..what research?

18 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Trump did not instruct the public to drink or inject bleach.

To put into context.......During an April 2020 White House press briefing, Donald Trump did not tell the public to drink bleach; rather, his comments were off-the-cuff speculation following a presentation by a Department of Homeland Security official showing how surface disinfectants—specifically bleach and isopropyl alcohol—kill COVID-19 on non-porous materials.

Taking the podium, Trump mused aloud to the health experts present about whether scientists could research a way to apply similar disinfectant properties inside the human body, asking if there was "a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning."

He never explicitly used the word "bleach" nor issued an instruction or medical directive to the public, his public spitballing on injecting or ingesting disinfectants triggered immediate, widespread warnings from medical professionals and chemical manufacturers stressing that internal use of such substances is extremely dangerous and lethal.

Right. Off the cuff speculation about a non existent “treatment” that would be very dangerous if people interpreted them in just the way that most people did, and made the President of the USA look like a total idiot, is just what you need at an official White House press briefing intended to inform and reassure the public.

But he didn’t say to drink bleach, just that the health services should look at ways to inject disinfectant.

So that’s a relief that that got cleared up. I feel so much better now.

13 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Perjury for starters. He DID fund GOF in Wuhan.

If you wouldn’t mind pointing me to your irrefutable evidence of bank transfers from Fauci’s personal bank accounts to the account of a laboratory in Wuhan.

It would be help me to form my own opinion on this point.

2 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

Right. Off the cuff speculation about a non existent “treatment” that would be very dangerous if people interpreted them in just the way that most people did, and made the President of the USA look like a total idiot, is just what you need at an official White House press briefing intended to inform and reassure the public.

But he didn’t say to drink bleach, just that the health services should look at ways to inject disinfectant.

So that’s a relief that that got cleared up. I feel so much better now.

It was a very controversial and yes 'stupid' thing to say and yes some folks took it as advice, but he was actually asking a question.

The thing is this happened 6 years ago and everything Trump says, even soundbites get dissected by everyone including the MSM.

We all say or write some things we wish hadn't, but for us .commoners' it gets forgotten after a few days, everything Trump says is recorded and gets regurgitated at some point....like this!

9 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

Senator Rand Paul, chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, obtained the records through official congressional subpoenas as part of an ongoing inquiry into the origins of COVID-19

Not the whole story.... Paul issued many subpoena's to federal agencies including HHS.. RFKjr directed HHS staff to search the department's servers... Fauci's notes were found during that search.... all documents on federal computes are the property of the federal government

9 hours ago, Mr Awesome said:

People like you are true members of a cult: the blue cult. The blue cult lacks the ability to take a deep dive into real policy issues. All you have is name-calling.

Oh wait like "Crooked Hilary" 'Lyin Ted", "Sleepy Joe"? There is no blue cult just you numbskulls continually washing the failure Trump's sac. Pitiful.

20 minutes ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

It was a very controversial and yes 'stupid' thing to say and yes some folks took it as advice, but he was actually asking a question.

The thing is this happened 6 years ago and everything Trump says, even soundbites get dissected by everyone including the MSM.

We all say or write some things we wish hadn't, but for us .commoners' it gets forgotten after a few days, everything Trump says is recorded and gets regurgitated at some point....like this!

Well to be fair, it was quite a seminal moment. In the context of what was happening back then, it was far more than a verbal fumble looking for the right word.

Some quotes are just like that. They either are, or turn out to be later, the most ridiculous things to say and are never lived down.

22 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Trump did not instruct the public to drink or inject bleach.

To put into context.......During an April 2020 White House press briefing, Donald Trump did not tell the public to drink bleach; rather, his comments were off-the-cuff speculation following a presentation by a Department of Homeland Security official showing how surface disinfectants—specifically bleach and isopropyl alcohol—kill COVID-19 on non-porous materials.

Taking the podium, Trump mused aloud to the health experts present about whether scientists could research a way to apply similar disinfectant properties inside the human body, asking if there was "a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning."

He never explicitly used the word "bleach" nor issued an instruction or medical directive to the public, his public spitballing on injecting or ingesting disinfectants triggered immediate, widespread warnings from medical professionals and chemical manufacturers stressing that internal use of such substances is extremely dangerous and lethal.

Anytime it has to do with Don I think off of rails is more appropriate than off the cuff. His love of insanity is only increasing by the day, and if I were a psychiatrist I would recommend some very powerful medications.

14 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Brainstorming out loud to scientists on live TV was terrible PR, sure, but he never gave a medical directive to the public.

Watching a Trumplander tap dance for Dear Leader is very entertaining!

Ooooh. Ahhh. 😄

You must be plum tuckered out 🕺

10 hours ago, Priorexpat said:

Brainwashed MAGA dope avoiding the facts and going with head in the sand blind cult follower.

Yes, they walk among us on this planet.......

From what I've read so far of the Rand disclosures, Trump is going to come out looking a LOT better than Fauci from the release of the diary.

2 minutes ago, impulse said:

From what I've read so far of the Rand disclosures, Trump is going to come out looking a LOT better than Fauci from the release of the diary.

Fauci's conclusions came from science. Trump's came from the mind of an adolescent.

Don't believe everything you read, your mama taught you that y/n?