3 hours ago, Hummin said:

Please provide the source where it says chicken carcass long cooked is safe and healthy for dogs!

Please use your common sense, if you have any.

If you don't, here's a YouTube video that demonstrates the concept.

8 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

Please use your common sense, if you have any.

If you don't, here's a YouTube video that demonstrates the concept.

Discussing this with you is challenging, especially when your factual evidence is a YouTube video from Top Dog Professional Training, while veterinary sources say the opposite. The video demonstrates that prolonged cooking can make a bone soft. It does not demonstrate that feeding slow cooked chicken carcasses is safe.

There is also the nutritional question. Bones are concentrated sources of calcium and phosphorus. How much long cooked chicken bone should a 15 kg dog eat every day, and how do you calculate that against the calcium and phosphorus already in the rest of its diet? Too much calcium is not automatically harmless. Veterinary nutrition guidance specifically warns that excessive calcium can cause mineral imbalances, gastrointestinal problems and, especially in growing large dogs, abnormal skeletal development.

You better come up with some better sources and more specific details. And while you are at it, explain the nutritional side. How much of your slow cooked chicken bone should a 15 kg dog eat per day, how much calcium and phosphorus does that provide, and how do you keep the total diet within the correct calcium to phosphorus balance?

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How long do you have to cook chicken bones before they are "meltingly soft"?

Once they dry out, they are very brittle and prone to splintering.

18 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

How long do you have to cook chicken bones before they are "meltingly soft"?

Once they dry out, they are very brittle and prone to splintering.

Twelve hours(overnight) with some hot water, in a slow cooker. Obviously, if you've been reading, best to use the whole carcass, unless you are looking to produce solely bone meal. If you haven't ever done it, then you should not be making premature statements with regard to the results.

The resulting mixture can crushed betwixt the fingers and stored in the fridge/freezer. Mixed with brown rice or as is when ready to serve. Lots of aspic and fats. Good stuff.

I've had dogs all my life, and our family has fed dogs all types of bones, although not all the time.

AI says this, which mirrors other links............No, long cooking does not make chicken bones safe for dogs because they can still splinter or cause dangerous blockages.

Why Cooked Bones Remain Dangerous

• Brittleness: Normal boiling or baking changes the structure of the bone, making it dry, hard, and prone to sharp splinters. [1]

• Digestive Risks: Sharp fragments can pierce the mouth, throat, stomach, or intestines, leading to internal bleeding or severe infections.

• Blockages: Even when pressure-cooked until soft and crumbly, large clumps or undigested pieces can cause dangerous intestinal blockages.

Safe Alternatives

• Bone Broth: You can safely boil plain chicken bones for hours to make a nutrient-rich broth, but you must strain out and throw away all of the solid bone pieces.

• Commercial Chews: Use vet-approved dental chews or rubber toys like Kongs instead of real bones. .

• Raw seen safer but still carry a bacterial risk

• I have heard of dogs choking on them from friends, where they had you reach down into the dog's throat and remove it. https://heartandpaw.com/pet-parent-resources/dog-ate-chicken-bones

There are a few different thoughts on the subject from various reputable sources, some saying no cooking whatsoever.......https://www.nurturingbynature.co.uk/article/can-i-feed-chicken-carcasses

One link from PetMD.... https://www.petmd.com/dog/nutrition/what-to-do-if-your-dog-ate-a-chicken-bone

There has always been reports of how harmful they might be.https://www.veg.com/post/can-dogs-eat-chicken-bones

Another link.......https://www.gsvs.org/eatontown-nj/blog/dog-chicken-bones-emergency-care/

Edited Tuesday at 08:32 AM4 days by fredwiggy

22 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

Twelve hours(overnight) with some hot water, in a slow cooker. Obviously, if you've been reading, best to use the whole carcass, unless you are looking to produce solely bone meal. If you haven't ever done it, then you should not be making premature statements with regard to the results.

The resulting mixture can crushed betwixt the fingers and stored in the fridge/freezer. Mixed with brown rice or as is when ready to serve. Lots of aspic and fats. Good stuff.

What statements have I made that were premature?

I give my dogs (the ones that adopted my home) Oatmeal, Pasta, Rice, Chicken, Fish, Eggs, Whole Grain Breads, and Popcorn. the same things I eat that are extras after my daughter and I eat meals.

16 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What statements have I made that were premature?

Once they dry out, they are very brittle and prone to splintering

20 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I've had dogs all my life, and our family has fed dogs all types of bones, although not all the time.

AI says this, which mirrors other links............No, long cooking does not make chicken bones safe for dogs because they can still splinter or cause dangerous blockages.

Why Cooked Bones Remain Dangerous

• Brittleness: Normal boiling or baking changes the structure of the bone, making it dry, hard, and prone to sharp splinters. [1]

• Digestive Risks: Sharp fragments can pierce the mouth, throat, stomach, or intestines, leading to internal bleeding or severe infections.

• Blockages: Even when pressure-cooked until soft and crumbly, large clumps or undigested pieces can cause dangerous intestinal blockages.

Safe Alternatives

• Bone Broth: You can safely boil plain chicken bones for hours to make a nutrient-rich broth, but you must strain out and throw away all of the solid bone pieces.

• Commercial Chews: Use vet-approved dental chews or rubber toys like Kongs instead of real bones. .

• Raw seen safer but still carry a bacterial risk

• I have heard of dogs choking on them from friends, where they had you reach down into the dog's throat and remove it. https://heartandpaw.com/pet-parent-resources/dog-ate-chicken-bones

There are a few different thoughts on the subject from various reputable sources, some saying no cooking whatsoever.......https://www.nurturingbynature.co.uk/article/can-i-feed-chicken-carcasses

One link from PetMD.... https://www.petmd.com/dog/nutrition/what-to-do-if-your-dog-ate-a-chicken-bone

There has always been reports of how harmful they might be.https://www.veg.com/post/can-dogs-eat-chicken-bones

Another link.......https://www.gsvs.org/eatontown-nj/blog/dog-chicken-bones-emergency-care/

That's what you get when you live your life vicariously through others, Google and AI...

Large clumps or undigested pieces can cause a dangerous intestinal blockage is the only part that refers to what I have been discussing. But not relevant. If you actually bothered to read what came before, you would note that the mixture was crushed before serving...

Hence being able to feed both puppies and large dogs. In fact even the cats eat it 😊

19 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

35 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What statements have I made that were premature?

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Once they dry out, they are very brittle and prone to splintering

Once they dry out, they do become brittle and are prone to splintering.

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

How long do you have to cook chicken bones before they are "meltingly soft"?

Once they dry out, they are very brittle and prone to splintering.

It's never a good idea giving cooked chicken bones to dogs, raw digesting easier IF you're going to feed them chicken bones at all. Looking at the links I provided will give you an idea what the experts recommend, which is what I'll always go by, as they do the studies and use long held beliefs regarding what to feed animals in your care.

I've talked to many, many vets and read quite a few books on dogs, both as pets and hunting dogs, and tried to stay away from giving the dogs bones at all, although I have a few times raw.

I have fed dogs for over 60 years and all those that lived with me lived very long lives, 2 over 20 years and the rest at least 15. Rarely have any gotten sick. The Cats also. I've always fed them human food which , if you look at what's in pet foods, comprises much of it anyway, in varied percentages. Animal byproducts are used that aren't generally eaten by humans but are safe.

Grains, corn, wheat, oats, barley, are very safe for dogs, with allergies rare in dogs from them. I give my dogs the extra popcorn we eat and they love it. it's cooked in a little oil and good for digestion in dogs.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

It's never a good idea giving cooked chicken bones to dogs, raw digesting easier IF you're going to feed them chicken bones at all. Looking at the links I provided will give you an idea what the experts recommend, which is what I'll always go by, as they do the studies and use long held beliefs regarding what to feed animals in your care.

I've talked to many, many vets and read quite a few books on dogs, both as pets and hunting dogs, and tried to stay away from giving the dogs bones at all, although I have a few times raw.

I have fed dogs for over 60 years and all those that lived with me lived very long lives, 2 over 20 years and the rest at least 15. Rarely have any gotten sicbk. The Cats also. I've always fed them human food which , if you look at what's in pet foods, comprises much of it anyway, in varied percentages. Animal byproducts are used that aren't generally eaten by humans but are safe.

Grains, corn, wheat, oats, barley, are very safe for dogs, with allergies rare in dogs from them. I give my dogs the extra popcorn we eat and they love it. it's cooked in a little oil and good for digestion in dogs.

My last dog died a while back, but I gave her all kinds of cooked bones without a second thought, as I did all my dogs.

My only point was that boiled bones get brittle after they dry.

12 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Once they dry out, they do become brittle and are prone to splintering.

I don't know anything about that. Nothing in my process correlates with bones drying out. Seems a random unrelated statement. Were you just thinking out loud to yourself?

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

My last dog died a while back, but I gave her all kinds of cooked bones without a second thought, as I did all my dogs.

My only point was that boiled bones get brittle after they dry.

The bones(crushed) are stored within the liquid, aspic, fats etc.

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

My last dog died a while back, but I gave her all kinds of cooked bones without a second thought, as I did all my dogs.

My only point was that boiled bones get brittle after they dry.

Yes, I'm sure many have fed their dogs all kinds of things and gotten away with it, like Chocolate, Onions, Garlic and Chicken and Fish bones, but like humans, some can digest things that others will pay for, so it's always best to stay away from the ones that have given them problems. I give the dogs here cooked chicken , as I don't use chicken with bones here and only breast meat for house meals.

Any chicken bones can cause blockages, so it's best to totally avoid them. Yes, cooked chicken bones can still splinter besides those possible blockages. Powdered cooked chicken bones can be safe, but digestion can still be hampered. It's always a best idea to go by what the pros say and not others opinions who got away with giving dogs bones with no negative results. The next time can be fatal.

Edited Tuesday at 09:27 AM4 days by fredwiggy

2 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

The bones(crushed) are stored within the liquid, aspic, fats etc.

I did not comment on the cr*p you feed your dog.

My comment was that boiled chicken bones get brittle and are prone to splinter when they are allowed to dry. That you do no allow them to dry, does not change that simple fact.

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On 8/25/2026 at 2:27 AM, Yellowtail said:

I did not comment on the cr*p you feed your dog.

My comment was that boiled chicken bones get brittle and are prone to splinter when they are allowed to dry. That you do no allow them to dry, does not change that simple fact.

True genius I'm sure. May I suggest that you utilise them before they dry out?