38 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

He gets the missus to do it. 😂 😂

No sir, no changes here in 25 years, only slight changes. 😂 😂

Nice try, but .... You asked ... "what rules changed ? " none

How they handle after convicted of, and expedite deportation has, not the rules broken that gets you deported. Still need to work on that reading comprehension, as still failing you ... miserably.

49 minutes ago, Fab5BKK said:

You totally missed the point... I'm just wondering if you ever studied Law 🤔

Studied ... no

Researched ... plenty, and lots of experience, from being in courtrooms 🙄

Edited Friday at 08:07 AM2 days by KhunLA

9 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

You asked ... "what rules changed ? " none

You have contradicted yourself, twice.

First, it wa no changes. Then it was slight changes. Now it's none. 😂

10 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

How they handle after convicted of, and expedite deportation has

So, that's changed, right? 😂

11 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Studied ... no

I rest my case, Your Honor. 😂

9 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

It is a bit scary, because could minor offences also lead to deportation??? the last sentence in this article is : So if you are not doing anything illegal, it doesn't concern you... But vaping is illegal as an example...a few days overstaying...and strict according to the law, even washing your car is illegal... It sounds silly these things, but in fact if they want rid of you they can now deport you.. And than I don't even talk about sex on the beach, or in public. Which is in my opinion not done nor in Thailand as in the home country, but that kind of offences can have serious consequences now.. I hope a real court orders the deportations and not a police or immigration officer

Washing your car illegal? nah don't think so

8 minutes ago, jvs said:

Washing your car illegal? nah don't think so

It's illegal if the authorities say it's illegal, but for 10,000 baht, you will not be deported and free to go.

Just now, KhunHeineken said:

It's illegal if the authorities say it's illegal, but for 10,000 baht, you will not be deported and free to go.

You pay your visa agent B20K not to be deported! 😂 😂😂 😂

Such deportation laws can get high approuval from all for obvious reasons. . But in a corrupt system, they can also be used the wrong way. That's the problem.

1 minute ago, SingAPorn said:

Such deportation laws can get high approuval from all for obvious reasons. . But in a corrupt system, they can also be used the wrong way. That's the problem.

What are the right and wrong ways?

Just now, Yellowtail said:

What are the right and wrong ways?

Right use : trouble makers, criminals, drug addicts etc etc etc...

Wrong use : apprehending a foreigner on something petty and inventing some pretext to put deportation pressure on a foreigner with intent to get a bribe

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You pay your visa agent B20K not to be deported! 😂 😂😂 😂

No. I pay a visa agent because I am not making a 800,000 baht donation to a 3rd World Country's bank, and I don't want to deal with any immigration officials. It's a win-win. 🙂

Edited Friday at 08:41 AM2 days by KhunHeineken

1 minute ago, SingAPorn said:

Right use : trouble makers, criminals, drug addicts etc etc etc...

Wrong use : apprehending a foreigner on something petty and inventing some pretext to put deportation pressure on a foreigner with intent to get a bribe

Making stuff up to pull people off the street to solicit a bribe?

Are they not already able to do that?

Off topic post removed @KhunHeineken again just trying to deflect the topic.

This is the second time today, I have told you to discuss the topic, not link to another media source, about an off topic subject. If you don’t want to discuss the AN article and subject, then stay out of the news section.

Seems some can see a bogey man behind every tree in Thailand waiting to pounce and deport them for washing their car or moving a motorbike.

Bottom line is behave yourself, don't be a dickhead, don't get into fights , don't get into business, follow the immigration rules and don't overstay visas, etc. MOST importantly . Don't be a dickhead.

worry too mutt.

7 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Did you read the OP? 😂 😂

You can't enforce laws that don't exist.

The new deportation laws start today. From today, they can be enforced.

What has been published in the Royal Gazette are the legal procedures required for a successful and legal deportation order. This is not a new deportation law. It's a legal definition of the rules that need to be followed to ensure the existing law is applied correctly.

Like most of the recent changes here, the fundamental law is unchanged, it's a clarification of the rules and procedures that need to be followed for any given law to be successfully prosecuted, be it fraudulent immigration status or illegal property ownership.

The way I see it, more of the perpetual grey areas that allow criminals and Thai law enforcement to circumvent Thailand's laws are being eliminated.

12 hours ago, NanLaew said:

This is not a new deportation law

Perhaps you should message a Mod and have the thread title changed to, " Old deportation rules take effect on 28 August." 😂

12 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Like most of the recent changes here, the fundamental law is unchanged,

You have contradicted yourself.

"recent changes" - law is unchanged."

12 hours ago, NanLaew said:

it's a clarification of the rules and procedures that need to be followed for any given law to be successfully prosecuted,

Over staying is not a criminal offense. An overstayer is detained in a immigration detention center. They are not charged, put before a court, sentenced to prison, then deported.

12 hours ago, NanLaew said:

The way I see it, more of the perpetual grey areas that allow criminals and Thai law enforcement to circumvent Thailand's laws are being eliminated.

The way I see it, more of the perpetual grey areas that allow Thai law enforcement to extort corrupt payments from foreigners for being involved in minor matters that corrupt authorities can seek to exploit.

Basically, "Pay to Stay." 🙂

27 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

This is not a new deportation law

Perhaps you should message a Mod and have the thread title changed to, " Old deportation rules take effect on 28 August."

Nothing wrong with the thread title. It correctly states rule changes. You are the one conflating that with law changes. The law hasn't changed.

31 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

You have contradicted yourself.

"recent changes" - law is unchanged."

No contradiction. I never said recent law changes despite your cleverdick editing of my post. This is what happens when you conflate rules and laws.

38 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Over staying is not a criminal offense. An overstayer is detained in a immigration detention center. They are not charged, put before a court, sentenced to prison, then deported.

If someone on overstay surrenders, it is an administrative procedure leading to deportation and a legal ban on re-entry. However, if one is caught on overstay, then....oh, never mind. Just type "is overstay in thailand a criminal offence?" into your favourite search engine and get back with us. No rush.

40 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

The way I see it, more of the perpetual grey areas that allow Thai law enforcement to extort corrupt payments from foreigners for being involved in minor matters that corrupt authorities can seek to exploit.

Ah, grasshopper... When you've been around these traps a bit longer, you will appreciate all these gradual changes, the slowly disappearing loopholes, the incremental squeeze on those ignoring the rules that is ultimately leading to people, both Thai and foreigner, being prosecuted for willfully and knowingly breaking the law.

1 minute ago, NanLaew said:

It correctly states rule changes.

So, rules have changed, not laws. Same Same.

5 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

If someone on overstay surrenders, it is an administrative procedure leading to deportation and a legal ban on re-entry. However, if one is caught on overstay, then....oh, never mind. Just type "is overstay in thailand a criminal offence?" into your favourite search engine and get back with us. No rush.

Do you know of any case where an overstayer has been sentenced to prison, that's prison, not a detention center awaiting deportation, for overstaying.

Post a link. No rush.

6 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

When you've been around these traps a bit longer, you will appreciate all these gradual changes, the slowly disappearing loopholes, the incremental squeeze on those ignoring the rules that is ultimately leading to people, both Thai and foreigner, being prosecuted for willfully and knowingly breaking the law.

It's comforting to know Thailand is only changing the rules, not the laws. 😂 😂

19 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

So, rules have changed, not laws. Same Same.

Do you know of any case where an overstayer has been sentenced to prison, that's prison, not a detention center awaiting deportation, for overstaying.

Post a link. No rush.

It's comforting to know Thailand is only changing the rules, not the laws. 😂 😂

That you believe rules are the same as laws explains a lot. 😂😂😂😂

9 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Do you know of any case where an overstayer has been sentenced to prison, that's prison, not a detention center awaiting deportation, for overstaying.

Post a link. No rush.

You are conflating (again), but this time it's detention and sentencing. All overstayers spend some time in police detention, jail, remand, call it what you will, before they are adjudicated as breaking the law and transferred to the IDC.

Grant Corrine and Kai Isaacs spring to mind. Both were held at Nong Plalai Jail aka Pattaya Remand Prison pending charges on overstay and their subsequent transfer to the IDC.

Never mind. It appears that once again, you're only intent here is wasting bandwidth on hair-splitting and wandering off-topic when proven wrong or challenged on your contrariness. Quite desperately too.

Crack on.

Yeah, the new rules seem to emcompass a wide variety of things with vague definitions from unruly behaviour to forged documents to immoral behaviour (whatever that means in practice and by who's standards)... all sounds a little Chinese style wording for stuff.

However, the proof will be in the pubbing regarding how it is enforced or in many cases if it is enforced... most likely it will be reactive rather than proactive as they simply don't have the manpower and resources to go investigating every single retiree/worker/long stay tourist etc. here. It will be for those that do silly stuff and attract far too much attention to themselves and go off on one, or get flagged as irregular in a spread sheet etc.

2 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Grant Corrine and Kai Isaacs spring to mind. Both were held at Nong Plalai Jail aka Pattaya Remand Prison pending charges on overstay and their subsequent transfer to the IDC.

Were they sentenced to prison by a court, for a specified period of time, before being deported? That is a yes or no answer.

1 minute ago, KhunHeineken said:

Were they sentenced to prison by a court, for a specified period of time, before being deported? That is a yes or no answer.

Must everyone be sentenced to prison by a court, for a specified period of time, before being considered a criminal?

😂😂😂😂

"Overstaying your visa in Thailand is a criminal offense under the Thai Immigration Act. Staying in the country past your permitted date makes you subject to criminal exposure, arrest, court appearances, and detention"

พระราชบัญญัติคนเข้าเมือง พ.ศ.๒๕๒๒ – สำนักงานตรวจคนเข้าเมือง – Immigration Bureau

Oh no...😂😂😂😂

32 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

Yeah, the new rules seem to emcompass a wide variety of things with vague definitions from unruly behaviour to forged documents to immoral behaviour (whatever that means in practice and by who's standards)... all sounds a little Chinese style wording for stuff.

However, the proof will be in the pubbing regarding how it is enforced or in many cases if it is enforced... most likely it will be reactive rather than proactive as they simply don't have the manpower and resources to go investigating every single retiree/worker/long stay tourist etc. here. It will be for those that do silly stuff and attract far too much attention to themselves and go off on one, or get flagged as irregular in a spread sheet etc.

So it's not some new draconian, targeted, racist law conjured up by a farang-hating prime minister in order to banish any and all dirty farangs from the kingdom forever?

A few members here are going to be upset with that view.

Edited Saturday at 07:43 AM1 day by NanLaew

27 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

So it's not some new draconian, targeted, racist law conjured up by a farang-hating prime minister in order to banish any and all dirty farangs from the kingdom forever?

A few members here are going to be upset with that view.

Each to their own as folks will interpret it to what makes them feel comfortable. Those that like being a drama queen will huff and puff, but to be realistic, it is just another tool for them to employ when they want to for those that attract far too much attention or beligerently screw up in a hissyfit or moronic entitlement.

2 hours ago, Sir Dude said:

but to be realistic, it is just another tool for them to employ when they want to for those that attract far too much attention or beligerently screw up in a hissyfit or moronic entitlement.

Or, to extort a corrupt payment.

"Pay or deport."

On 8/27/2026 at 10:39 PM, ikke1959 said:

You have no clue what you are talking about... In my country everybody can work in the garden, wash the car or whatever.. but in Thailand you need a work permit for it...There will be no problems normally but if people don't like you you can get in trouble because the draconian laws..Not long ago someone stated that moving a motorcycle of a rental shop could be punished as it is een as work... Probably you don't know what happened in Europe with certain people around the WOII

Are you really planning to work in the garden or wash cars for a living in Thailand? Are you serious? Farangs need to arrive in Thailand with the means of supporting themselves, these menial jobs are all reserved for Thais. What's the big deal about that?

People don't do it as their work/job. It is just a hobby .... why so difficult to understand

1 hour ago, Shocked farang said:

Are you really planning to work in the garden or wash cars for a living in Thailand? Are you serious? Farangs need to arrive in Thailand with the means of supporting themselves, these menial jobs are all reserved for Thais. What's the big deal about that

On 8/28/2026 at 6:19 AM, ikke1959 said:

It is a bit scary, because could minor offences also lead to deportation??? the last sentence in this article is : So if you are not doing anything illegal, it doesn't concern you... But vaping is illegal as an example...a few days overstaying...and strict according to the law, even washing your car is illegal... It sounds silly these things, but in fact if they want rid of you they can now deport you.. And than I don't even talk about sex on the beach, or in public. Which is in my opinion not done nor in Thailand as in the home country, but that kind of offences can have serious consequences now.. I hope a real court orders the deportations and not a police or immigration officer

On 8/28/2026 at 6:19 AM, ikke1959 said:

It is a bit scary, because could minor offences also lead to deportation??? the last sentence in this article is : So if you are not doing anything illegal, it doesn't concern you... But vaping is illegal as an example...a few days overstaying...and strict according to the law, even washing your car is illegal... It sounds silly these things, but in fact if they want rid of you they can now deport you.. And than I don't even talk about sex on the beach, or in public. Which is in my opinion not done nor in Thailand as in the home country, but that kind of offences can have serious consequences now.. I hope a real court orders the deportations and not a police or immigration officer

I don't wash my car and I don't have sex on the beach, nothing to worry about

2 hours ago, kiwikeith said:

I don't wash my car and I don't have sex on the beach, nothing to worry about

I make sure I close all the blinds, when doing the dishes, as you can never be too careful. If it wasn't for the wall, I wouldn't dare plug the car in.

I remember when I got caught watering the lawn ... before the wall was finished

Edited 21 hours ago21 hr by KhunLA

5 hours ago, kiwikeith said:

I don't wash my car and I don't have sex on the beach, nothing to worry about

Do you have a Thai girlfriend / wife?

Could be quite interesting if she was to claim you assaulted her. Just a thought. 🙂