2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I've had to make new friends with outliers already over 70.

Really, really tired of that game now!

There's a 93 year old on this forum.

This guy is really an outlier then.

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

The big difference between us Gamby Sir - although there could be others - is that you believe in the Germ Theory, while I think it a load of old cod's wallop. For anyone not familiar with that term; it equates to monumental humbug. So, all your quotes and links are utter nonsense to me.

You don't really discuss anything. Simply quote endless passages of nonsense from 'approved' sources.

A virus has never been found in a forest, up a mountain, behind a bus stop, in a supermarket or in a lab petri dish. It don't exist. It's simply pseudoscience. Made up, firstly by Rockefeller $$$, and for the last 100 years, by well-paid white-coats, who depend upon the Germ Theory for their lifestyle.

As for the spike protein; it seems to me that it is another made up entity by the virologists, epidemiologists, vaccinologists and any other fraudulent white-coat 'ologists.

A spike protein supposedly coats the virus. Well, show the virus; I say. Find the virus and the spike protein will also be found. After all; they are supposedly attached. I've looked at experiments that try to show a virus has been found, captured, isolated and purified. And what do you know; I've yet to find any. Why might that be? I reckon it's because the virus is a made up story to make people rich, keep sick people from getting better, and of course keep people in fear. Fear? Yes indeed! 'Cause fearful people are far more likely to do as requested (told) by the medical, and deep state, authorities.

AI, Wiki or CDC were not consulted for this post. Just nature.

Explain to me what H Pylori is if it isn't a bacterium. Yes, H. pylori (short for Helicobacter pylori) is a type of harmful germ known as a bacterium.

As explained by the Mayo Clinic, “It's caused by a germ called Helicobacter pylori, a bacteria also known as H. pylori.”

How H. pylori Works

• It is a spiral-shaped bacterium that lives in the protective lining of the human stomach.

• It produces a special enzyme called urease, which neutralizes harsh stomach acid so the germ can survive in that acidic environment.

• Many people catch this germ during childhood through contaminated food, water, or saliva.

Health Effects

• No Symptoms: Most people who have the germ never feel sick or show any signs of infection.

• Digestive Issues: It can cause inflammation of the stomach lining (gastritis) and lead to painful open sores called peptic ulcers.

• Treatment: Doctors treat and clear the infection using a specific course of antibiotics combined with acid-reducing medications.

• Bacterial Factors

  • Different Strains: Some strains of H. pylori carry toxic genes, like CagA and VacA. Strains with these genes cause more inflammation and damage to the stomach lining. Strains without them are often harmless.

  Human Genetics

  • Gene Variations: Your DNA plays a role. Certain genetic traits make some people's immune systems react more aggressively to the bacteria, leading to tissue damage and ulcers.

  • Blood Type: People with Type O blood have a slightly higher risk of getting ulcers from H. pylori because the bacteria stick better to stomach cells of this type.

  Environment and Lifestyle

  • Diet: Eating a lot of salty or processed foods can damage the stomach lining and make it easier for H. pylori to cause trouble. A diet rich in fresh fruits and vegetables helps protect the stomach.

  • Age of Infection: Most people catch H. pylori during childhood. A young immune system may handle or tolerate the bacteria differently than an adult immune system.

  • Other Microbes: The other bacteria living in your gut (the microbiome) can influence how your body reacts to H. pylori.

• I know what it can do, as I, along with around 70% of the population has it, and it affects around 20% negatively. by causing inflammation, as it did me, getting it living here. If that inflammation isn't stopped by antibiotics, a person will have continued gastritis, and possibly get ulcers and cancer if untreated. There is only that way to treat it. Two antibiotics and a PPI, which hurts your gut but without it the H Pylori keeps going.

• Anyone can get it and have it behave negatively, as studies have shown, people eating healthy, using probiotics and they still have it hurt them, as it again, did me.I never ate but a tiny bit of salty and processed foods. Type B+ blood. It didn't affect me until 2 years ago, so genetics would have surely shown to be a factor long ago.

Edited Monday at 08:02 AM2 days by fredwiggy

14 hours ago, Tourist2 said:

Same people people still calling the shots (no pun intended) on here too.

NEVER FORGET.

I can forgive but I will never forget. The people that ran this forum were cowards and lost respect of the longtime members. Many members now have no loyalty to AseanNow and assume that will have a big impact. Even to this day they reward those that report posters incessantly and punish those that don't feel the need. Their choice and time will but things here are on a downward trend.

14 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Scarred?

School kids got to stay home !!!

Every day we didn't have to go to school as kids was a special day.

"Stay home" was the main theme of Covid.

What's so bad about staying home? Unless you hate your home and people you live with.

Staying at home was quite boring. Anticipating the day was fun though. Kids were already becoming addicted to online dopamine hits but Covid took us past the point of no return. Seeing a a group of kids playing futbol was common in my area before Covid and now it is extremely rare. WHat impact it will have on their futures is mostly unknown but my hunch is it is going to have substantial negative impact.

I assume it changed you? I was much more active and out of the house much of the day pre-Covid. Now, I can stay on the property for days and never leave. Many people are doing the same or I might be the exception.

Edited Monday at 08:12 AM2 days by atpeace

24 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

"Stay home" was the main theme of Covid.

What's so bad about staying home?

The lost jobs,family business SME's,the mental health decline,the physical health decline,the suicides,the physical abuse, the substance abuse the what's the point going back to work after being told that you and your job was 'non essential'

so "f" it I'll just stay at home and claim some benefits.

Many people were stuck at 'home' in a small flat with no garden

for weeks twiddling their thumbs or arguing with spouse and kids about when things would get 'back to normal' and not killing granny.

The whole 'Covid' response was one all mighty disaster !

32 minutes ago, atpeace said:

I can forgive but I will never forget. The people that ran this forum were cowards and lost respect of the longtime members. Many members now have no loyalty to AseanNow and assume that will have a big impact. Even to this day they reward those that report posters incessantly and punish those that don't feel the need. Their choice and time will but things here are on a downward trend.

Indeed!

There was a member on here that was sent on holiday 14 times. Often for the most ridiculous reasons. Just who picks fools to moderate a forum that really only needs mod input if it breaks Thai law.

The whole idea of a forum is to gather together a community that enjoy the experience of debate, gleaning info and, at times, disagreements; or arguing the toss.

Edited Monday at 08:52 AM2 days by Stiddle Mump

32 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Staying at home was quite boring. Anticipating the day was fun though. Kids were already becoming addicted to online dopamine hits but Covid took us past the point of no return. Seeing a a group of kids playing futbol was common in my area before Covid and now it is extremely rare. WHat impact it will have on their futures is mostly unknown but my hunch is it is going to have substantial negative impact.

I assume it changed you? I was much more active and out of the house much of the day pre-Covid. Now, I can stay on the property for days and never leave. Many people are doing the same or I might be the exception.

One aim of the coldvid psyop was to atomise communities.
Old school divide to conquer.

No one inc the AN resident health Egg Spurt can explain the facts - they just wave the stats away (1st graphic below is based on US CDC numbers) as 'conspiracy theory'.
Absolute clowns.
The ones who went full stasi should never be trusted again.
Lickspittle cowards

Edited Monday at 08:46 AM2 days by Tourist2

57 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Explain to me what H Pylori is if it isn't a bacterium. Yes, H. pylori (short for Helicobacter pylori) is a type of harmful germ known as a bacterium.

As explained by the Mayo Clinic, “It's caused by a germ called Helicobacter pylori, a bacteria also known as H. pylori.”

How H. pylori Works

• It is a spiral-shaped bacterium that lives in the protective lining of the human stomach.

• It produces a special enzyme called urease, which neutralizes harsh stomach acid so the germ can survive in that acidic environment.

• Many people catch this germ during childhood through contaminated food, water, or saliva.

Health Effects

• No Symptoms: Most people who have the germ never feel sick or show any signs of infection.

• Digestive Issues: It can cause inflammation of the stomach lining (gastritis) and lead to painful open sores called peptic ulcers.

• Treatment: Doctors treat and clear the infection using a specific course of antibiotics combined with acid-reducing medications.

• Bacterial Factors

  • Different Strains: Some strains of H. pylori carry toxic genes, like CagA and VacA. Strains with these genes cause more inflammation and damage to the stomach lining. Strains without them are often harmless.

  Human Genetics

  • Gene Variations: Your DNA plays a role. Certain genetic traits make some people's immune systems react more aggressively to the bacteria, leading to tissue damage and ulcers.

  • Blood Type: People with Type O blood have a slightly higher risk of getting ulcers from H. pylori because the bacteria stick better to stomach cells of this type.

  Environment and Lifestyle

  • Diet: Eating a lot of salty or processed foods can damage the stomach lining and make it easier for H. pylori to cause trouble. A diet rich in fresh fruits and vegetables helps protect the stomach.

  • Age of Infection: Most people catch H. pylori during childhood. A young immune system may handle or tolerate the bacteria differently than an adult immune system.

  • Other Microbes: The other bacteria living in your gut (the microbiome) can influence how your body reacts to H. pylori.

• I know what it can do, as I, along with around 70% of the population has it, and it affects around 20% negatively. by causing inflammation, as it did me, getting it living here. If that inflammation isn't stopped by antibiotics, a person will have continued gastritis, and possibly get ulcers and cancer if untreated. There is only that way to treat it. Two antibiotics and a PPI, which hurts your gut but without it the H Pylori keeps going.

• Anyone can get it and have it behave negatively, as studies have shown, people eating healthy, using probiotics and they still have it hurt them, as it again, did me.I never ate but a tiny bit of salty and processed foods. Type B+ blood. It didn't affect me until 2 years ago, so genetics would have surely shown to be a factor long ago.

All bacteria have a role. They are nature's 'clean up agents'. Much the same as ants and vultures.

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

All bacteria have a role. They are nature's 'clean up agents'. Much the same as ants and vultures.

An some bacteria are harmful and deadly. H Pylori being one of them.

Edited Monday at 08:58 AM2 days by fredwiggy

Just now, fredwiggy said:

An some bacteria are harmful and deadly.

Deadly to whom or what? Not in my book Fred mate. But yes! Bacteria is harmful to the tree that has just fallen in the forest. I guess that's what you mean. However, that tree was dying or dead.

It is not in nature's interest to have rogue, or maverick, bacteria.

If one can understand the role of nature. It is to protect, recycle and rejuvenate.

Edited Monday at 09:06 AM2 days by Stiddle Mump

Just now, Stiddle Mump said:

Deadly to whom or what? Not in my book Fred mate.

It is not in nature's interest to have rogue, or maverick, bacteria.

If one can understand the role of nature. It is to protect, recycle and rejuvenate. So yes, bacteria is harmful to the tree that has just fallen in the forest. I guess that's what you mean.

Look it up. If I didn't eradicate it, it could have lead to ulcers or cancer. Look up also how many it does this to. There ae good and bad gut bacteria, and this has been known all along.

Edited Monday at 09:05 AM2 days by fredwiggy

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Look it up. If I didn't eradicate it, it could have lead to ulcers or cancer. Look up also how many it does this to. There ae good and bad gut bacteria, and this has been known all along.

All bacteria serve a role.

It is not always clear why things happen in the body as they do. Something we might associate as being bad - for instance a tumor - may well be the body saving its very life.

Fever, coughing, fainting etc are all for a reason.

Edited Monday at 09:11 AM2 days by Stiddle Mump

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

All bacteria serve a role.

It is not always clear why things happen in the body as they do. Something we might associate as being bad - for instance a tumor - may well be the body saving its very life.

Fever, coughing, fainting etc are all for a reason.

A tumor is a mass of cells growing out of control from a mutation in the DNA. A tumor is harmful and not the body trying to save itself. left to grow it will take over and kill the recipient. This is AI but explains here your theory went wrong.........Malignant Tumors (Cancer): These tumors actively invade nearby tissues. They can break away, travel through the blood or lymphatic system, and form new tumors in other parts of the body (metastasis). Left unchecked, they destroy vital organs and disrupt essential body functions, which becomes fatal.

A tumor is a mass of abnormal cells that grows uncontrollably, and it is absolutely not a helpful mechanism or the body trying to save itself.

In a healthy body, cells grow, divide, and die in a strictly regulated cycle. When genetic mutations damage this regulatory system, cells begin to divide without stopping.

The differences between benign and malignant tumors highlight why they are so dangerous:

• Benign Tumors: While these do not spread to other parts of the body or invade surrounding tissue, they can still be highly dangerous. If left to grow, they can press against vital organs, blood vessels, or nerves (such as a benign tumor in the brain), causing severe health issues.

The body's immune system actually tries to destroy tumor cells when it recognizes them as abnormal, rather than creating them as a survival mechanism. However, advanced tumor cells can develop ways to hide from or suppress the immune system, allowing them to keep growing.

If you want, I can explain how current cancer treatments (like chemotherapy, immunotherapy, or targeted therapy) work to help the body fight off these cells, or we can look into how mutations start in the first place.

As far as H Pylori...........Yes, H. pylori (Helicobacter pylori) is a spiral-shaped bacterium that infects the inner lining of the stomach and can cause serious health problems.

How It Harms the Body

• Weakens the lining: It damages the protective mucus layer that shields your stomach from harsh acids.

• Causes sores: Stomach acid can then injure the sensitive tissue underneath, leading to painful sores called ulcers (open wounds in the stomach or upper small intestine).

• Increases cancer risk: Long-term, untreated infections can cause chronic inflammation and raise the risk of stomach cancer..

Edited Monday at 09:19 AM2 days by fredwiggy

53 minutes ago, johng said:

Many people were stuck at 'home' in a small flat with no garden

for weeks twiddling their thumbs or arguing with spouse and kids about when things would get 'back to normal' and not killing granny.

So if you don't know how to make the most of quality time with family, where you have no work obligations, and use this time to bond even more with family instead of arguing, this is Fauci's fault too?

What is "normal"? Working 60 hours a week and barely seeing your children?

Is that what bothers you so much about Covid? Your sense of "normalcy" got challenged and made you nervous?

Edited Monday at 09:20 AM2 days by save the frogs

20 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

There have been plenty of documented cases – I particularly remember the story about that poor baby in Washington. All 'baseless conspiracy theories' of course…

Thanks for this post.... it prompted me to ask:

what percentage of x posts are provably wrong

Apparently, others have had the same or similar questions. Some non-nitwits did a serious analysis.

The result was very interesting.

Edited Monday at 09:31 AM2 days by gamb00ler

1 hour ago, atpeace said:

Staying at home was quite boring. Anticipating the day was fun though. Kids were already becoming addicted to online dopamine hits but Covid took us past the point of no return. Seeing a a group of kids playing futbol was common in my area before Covid and now it is extremely rare. WHat impact it will have on their futures is mostly unknown but my hunch is it is going to have substantial negative impact.

I assume it changed you? I was much more active and out of the house much of the day pre-Covid. Now, I can stay on the property for days and never leave. Many people are doing the same or I might be the exception.

Not sure about kids, but to suggest Covid has permanently altered your state of being when you no longer leave the house makes no sense. There's nothing stopping you from spending more time outdoors now.

If the heat was a little less intense, I might spend more time outdoors during the day here.

Staying at home was quite boring? Have you seen some of the latest tech that is being released? GPT Astra can go into software applications and do the work for you. Millions of jobs are on the cusp of disappearing. Staying home ie what happened during Covid, will become more and more normal. It's not good to be forced indoors all day, but you have online resources, books, films, and you can even play video games indoors. Pick up a musical instrument. It's only boring if you make it boring.

7 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Correlation is not causation, Dr Draino 😄

Except when an unvaccinated kid dies with measles, in which case correlation totally means causation. Love these modular Science™ concepts…

50 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Is that what bothers you so much about Covid? Your sense of "normalcy" got challenged and made you nervous?

No what bothers me the most was how easy it was for those 'powers that shouldn't be' to manipulate,coerce and bully

(most) people into complete submission and the visceral hatred of those who stood their ground against the tyranny.

It was more than bothersome it was outright terrifying how many 'just following the orders' ordinary (Germans) went along with it !!!!!

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

A tumor is a mass of cells growing out of control from a mutation in the DNA. A tumor is harmful and not the body trying to save itself. left to grow it will take over and kill the recipient. This is AI but explains here your theory went wrong.........Malignant Tumors (Cancer): These tumors actively invade nearby tissues. They can break away, travel through the blood or lymphatic system, and form new tumors in other parts of the body (metastasis). Left unchecked, they destroy vital organs and disrupt essential body functions, which becomes fatal.

A tumor is a mass of abnormal cells that grows uncontrollably, and it is absolutely not a helpful mechanism or the body trying to save itself.

In a healthy body, cells grow, divide, and die in a strictly regulated cycle. When genetic mutations damage this regulatory system, cells begin to divide without stopping.

The differences between benign and malignant tumors highlight why they are so dangerous:

• Benign Tumors: While these do not spread to other parts of the body or invade surrounding tissue, they can still be highly dangerous. If left to grow, they can press against vital organs, blood vessels, or nerves (such as a benign tumor in the brain), causing severe health issues.

The body's immune system actually tries to destroy tumor cells when it recognizes them as abnormal, rather than creating them as a survival mechanism. However, advanced tumor cells can develop ways to hide from or suppress the immune system, allowing them to keep growing.

If you want, I can explain how current cancer treatments (like chemotherapy, immunotherapy, or targeted therapy) work to help the body fight off these cells, or we can look into how mutations start in the first place.

As far as H Pylori...........Yes, H. pylori (Helicobacter pylori) is a spiral-shaped bacterium that infects the inner lining of the stomach and can cause serious health problems.

How It Harms the Body

• Weakens the lining: It damages the protective mucus layer that shields your stomach from harsh acids.

• Causes sores: Stomach acid can then injure the sensitive tissue underneath, leading to painful sores called ulcers (open wounds in the stomach or upper small intestine).

• Increases cancer risk: Long-term, untreated infections can cause chronic inflammation and raise the risk of stomach cancer..

A tumor is the body protecting itself by isolating toxic material. This material, that if let loose, could make sick, maim or kill the body.

Cancer has been discussed in depth on this forum: https://aseannow.com/topic/1350691-can-getting-cancer-ever-be-a-good-thing/#comment-20236354

13 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Cancer has been discussed in depth on this forum:

Cancer can be only a good thing when your enemies get it.

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

Cancer can be only a good thing when your enemies get it.

Depends on your age, concerning at age 20, not so much at age 70.

I don't really have any enemies.

Do you have enemies?

Edited Monday at 10:44 AM2 days by BritManToo

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

Do you have enemies?

Not since I stopped working.

I am no longer in any competitive environment.

It was a joke. Cancer is never a good thing to refute mr Mump's hypothesis.

Edited Monday at 10:46 AM2 days by save the frogs

14 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

A tumor is the body protecting itself by isolating toxic material. This material, that if let loose, could make sick, maim or kill the body.

Cancer has been discussed in depth on this forum: https://aseannow.com/topic/1350691-can-getting-cancer-ever-be-a-good-thing/#comment-20236354

Tumors aren't isolating but growing just like all other cells. The body can fight some things through immunity and adaptation, but some things take other measures. White blood cells create antibodies to fight many things that don't belong in us. Some bacterial infections spread faster than the body can fight them, and this is when medicines are needed. The body fights off many small cancers, but when a tumor develops, other measures are needed to stop it's growth or remove it completely.

1 hour ago, Tourist2 said:

No one inc the AN resident health Egg Spurt can explain the facts - they just wave the stats away (1st graphic below is based on US CDC numbers) as 'conspiracy theory'.
Absolute clowns.
The ones who went full stasi should never be trusted again.
Lickspittle cowards

I guess you are trying to find explanations all the wrong places - or that folks in these places are tired of trying to respond to the anti vaccine crowd. But OK, I will try this one time since it is not the first time we are presented for those images:

The things that worked to stop the spreading of covid, like washing hands, keeping distance, wearing masks, and staying at home also works to stop the flue. It is a very logical and very simply to understand fact, and things gets even more easy to understand when you consider that the flu is much less contagious than covid was back then.

3 minutes ago, farang51 said:

I guess you are trying to find explanations all the wrong places - or that folks in these places are tired of trying to respond to the anti vaccine crowd. But OK, I will try this one time since it is not the first time we are presented for those images:

The things that worked to stop the spreading of covid, like washing hands, keeping distance, wearing masks, and staying at home also works to stop the flue. It is a very logical and very simply to understand fact, and things gets even more easy to understand when you consider that the flu is much less contagious than covid was back then.

I've not had the flu or even a cold since I caught COVID 2x.

That's five years without so much as a runny nose.

Maybe COVID was, in fact, a viral cure for the flu/colds.

17 minutes ago, farang51 said:

The things that worked to stop the spreading of covid, like washing hands, keeping distance, wearing masks, and staying at home also works to stop the flue. It is a very logical and very simply to understand fact, and things gets even more easy to understand when you consider that the flu is much less contagious than covid was back then.

Nah, that's nonsense.

It's not feasible to keep your distance from human beings, stay home, and wear masks perpetually.

The best and only way to prevent the flu is to keep your immunity high.

The powers that be played games with us. But I don't care too much.

I got paid to stay home from work and the vaccine doesn't worry me much either. And I'm still alive.

Edited Monday at 11:09 AM2 days by save the frogs

8 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Nah, that's nonsense.

It's not feasible to keep your distance from human beings, stay home, and wear masks perpetually.

I am not talking about keeping the flu away perpetually, I explained why the flu numbers dropped back when we did those things.

41 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Cancer can be only a good thing when your enemies get it.

And that’s why this is a feel good story.

She praised the vax…..and now she’s dead.

That’s a good thing.

13 minutes ago, Airalee said:

And that’s why this is a feel good story.

She praised the vax…..and now she’s dead.

That’s a good thing.

Who is dead because of the vax? A post on X doesn't prove anything. Anyone can post anything.

You guys have monopolized the "vaccine fear-mongering" corner of the forum.

Gamma Globulin is starting to monopolized the "AI will kill us all" corner of the forum.

Everyone on the forum will soon need Prozac with all the doom and gloom on here.

Edited Monday at 11:42 AM2 days by save the frogs

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

Except when an unvaccinated kid dies with measles, in which case correlation totally means causation. Love these modular Science™ concepts…

It really is sad to see people make such unfounded criticisms without knowing ANY facts. The first death in Pennsylvania was a newborn infant born to a measles infected mother. The autopsy showed a ruptured spleen and the body tested positive for the measles virus. The death was classified as measles associated. A little research shows that:

A congenital measles infection can weaken or enlarge the spleen and thin its outer capsule, potentially making the organ fragile enough to rupture during the physical trauma of birth.

The second death in Pennsylvania that was classified as measles associated was found during autopsy to be caused by a measles infection.

Facts can be so depressing to those promulgating nonsense.