I think radiations would spill over to neighbouring (allied) Arab States and neutrals like Azerbaijan and Armenia. This alone speaks against using nukes.

Isn't it better if usa nukes Israel? That would solve most, if not all, problems in the area. There will be no need to nuke Iran anymore, Iran might even thank usa! Strait of Hormuz will be opened again; Israeli genocide of Palestine will be stopped.
Sounds great, but don't forget that Israel AND usa together started this Iran war!!!

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

The US wants peace,

It has a deadly way of proving it!

And MAGA nuts like you do not help!

7 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

It has a deadly way of proving it!

And MAGA nuts like you do not help!

You've been on this forum long enough to know that I don't support Trump. What are you doing about this conflict? What could any citizen do? Nothing but sit back and wait for it to end.

These types of discussions are getting ridiculous and the question all those against America should ask themselves is why.

The war is like all wars. it costs people money and hopefully it ends soon, with the conflict area and it's countries able to conduct business as usual. Iran has been a thorn in the side of many countries all along, but people are still dismissing what it's been doing to it's own people. If you want peace, those against it need to be beaten. Simple logic some can't understand. Some don't negotiate so what else is there?

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

If you want peace, those against it need to be beaten.

No they don't when you have internationally agreed and recognised agreements in place to control such countries.

A great example is/was In 2015, the United States and other world powers reached the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) with Iran, under which Iran agreed to limit its nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief.

You do not stop or prevent wars by starting wars, especially those with a disastrous global impact!

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Force is necessary against these types, as nothing else has ever worked.

Wrong!

The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) with Iran, under which Iran agreed to limit its nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief was working till the warmonger TRUMP tore it up.

You do NOT stop wars by starting them!

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

prevent them from developing a nuclear program

Dont worry gramps.
There are no nukes. Without the nuke spell there would never be an excuse to invade any of these countries on behalf of Israel.

There’s no evidence whatsoever of nuclear bombs. None.

The Manhattan project and that ridiculous “I am become death destroyer of worlds” clip is some of the gayest most embarrassing wizard acting I’ve ever seen.

The weapons of mass destruction are the breaking of the nuclear family.

That’s the bomb.

Splitting the Adam.

The man.

Deep down you know it’s true.

How enriched is the yellow cake?!?! Is it 60%?!

What did “tulsi say?!?!” It’s total <deleted> nonsense.

Tulsi is islut backwards. Just something to take note of….

Enola is alone backwards. Alone and gay.

Enola gay.

With a fat man and a little boy.

It’s a demonic joke.

The punchline is all the war and fear for absolutely no reason.


3 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:

Dont worry gramps.
There are no nukes. Without the nuke spell there would never be an excuse to invade any of these countries on behalf of Israel.

There’s no evidence whatsoever of nuclear bombs. None.

The Manhattan project and that ridiculous “I am become death destroyer of worlds” clip is some of the gayest most embarrassing wizard acting I’ve ever seen.

The weapons of mass destruction are the breaking of the nuclear family.

That’s the bomb.

Splitting the Adam.

The man.

Deep down you know it’s true.

How enriched is the yellow cake?!?! Is it 60%?!

What did “tulsi say?!?!” It’s total <deleted> nonsense.

Tulsi is islut backwards. Just something to take note of….

Enola is alone backwards. Alone and gay.

Enola gay.

With a fat man and a little boy.

It’s a demonic joke.

The punchline is all the war and fear for absolutely no reason.


I've never been worried about nuclear weapons. No one's going to use them and those that tried against America would be quickly wiped out, which isn't in anyone's best interest.

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

But it's a fact that America didn't intentionally kill any children while Iran has been doing this for decades. All children have worth, and all have parents. Iran's regime is a sick, twisted murderous regime that needs to be eliminated.

I don't disagree. Having said that, may I remind you Iran's murderous theocracy stems from the CIA toppling the Mossadeq democratic government in 1953, because he had the temerity to nationalise British oil assets. The 1979 revolution followed as a result, and the Shah's SAVAK was no less brutal.

20 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Then why go to war to stop a country having them?

To feed the Financial Industrial and Miltary Industrial Complex
They both need feeding
War is a BIG business. Maybe the biggest.

Lobbyists pay big money to get countries to go to war (paid for by taxpayers)
Missiles, ships and bombs are BIG money.

Then there's the rebuild contracts....

Are u guys so naive to this?

Seem wet behind the ears

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

How do you stop a terrorist regime?

Stick with the international working protocols that were in place!

I see that you have not answered my question above re you not worrying about nuclear weapons!

You said;

"I've never been worried about nuclear weapons. No one's going to use them"

To which I said;

"Then why go to war to stop a country having them?"

I think you need to make your mind up and provide an answer!

16 hours ago, HolmesEquivelant said:

“The USA have been the only nation in the world to commit such a monumental war crime as to detonate a nuclear warhead over a civilian population -- twice”

Correct.

It was needed at the time to end WW2. It actually saved lives by eliminating the need for General Curtis LeMays continuing his campaign to incinerate the nation of Japan with napalm from the B-29’s out of the Marianas islands prior to the Allied invasion of Japan. Notable mention was payback for Pearl Harbor.

It worked, Japan unconditionally surrendered.

War crimes? You failed to mention Iran’s and Hamas’s Why?

Japan had already accepted defeat. Indeed, the naval fleet was sailing south to surrender to the Allied Forces in the South China Sea (Guam?) before the senseless destruction of Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

Shades of Bomber Harris’ bombing of Dresden.

6 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:

To feed the Financial Industrial and Miltary Industrial Complex
They both need feeding
War is a BIG business. Maybe the biggest.

Lobbyists pay big money to get countries to go to war (paid for by taxpayers)
Missiles, ships and bombs are BIG money.

Then there's the rebuild contracts....

Are u guys so naive to this?

Seem wet behind the ears

I am not disagreeing with you!

I want the MAGA war mongers to provide a logical political and military reason for their actions!

6 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

I am not disagreeing with you!

I want the MAGA war mongers to provide a logical political and military reason for their actions!

They did (Trump n BiBi said Iran are close to having nucealr bombs) - So why are u complaining?
Are u saying u don't believe in nukes?
Are u saying nuclear bombs are just normal bombs + BS marketing?

But dont worry gramps.
There are no nukes. Without the nuke spell there would never be an excuse to invade any of these countries on behalf of Israel.

There’s no evidence whatsoever of nuclear bombs. None.

The Manhattan project and that ridiculous “I am become death destroyer of worlds” clip is some of the gayest most embarrassing wizard acting I’ve ever seen.

The weapons of mass destruction are the breaking of the nuclear family.

That’s the bomb.

Splitting the Adam.

The man.

Deep down you know it’s true.

How enriched is the yellow cake?!?! Is it 60%?!

What did “tulsi say?!?!” It’s total <deleted> nonsense.

Tulsi is islut backwards. Just something to take note of….

Enola is alone backwards. Alone and gay.

Enola gay.

With a fat man and a little boy.

It’s a demonic joke.

The punchline is all the war and fear for absolutely no reason.


28 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Stick with the international working protocols that were in place!

I see that you have not answered my question above re you not worrying about nuclear weapons!

You said;

"I've never been worried about nuclear weapons. No one's going to use them"

To which I said;

"Then why go to war to stop a country having them?"

I think you need to make your mind up and provide an answer!

To prevent Iran from using them on other countries within their reach. They are also America's allies.

22 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Don't give them a reason to be terrorists in the first place would be a good start!

They already had their own personal reasons.

The 1979 Revolution and Ideology

• Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini overthrew the Shah and established a religious dictatorship centered on Velayat-e Faqih (Guardianship of the Islamic Jurist).

• Exporting the Revolution: The new constitution and leadership explicitly committed to spreading their specific brand of Shia Islamist governance beyond Iran's borders, viewing themselves as ideological leaders for Muslims globally.

Geopolitical Isolation and the Iran-Iraq War

• Hostility with the West: The seizure of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran (1979–1981) and anti-Western rhetoric ("Death to America") immediately isolated Iran from Western powers and regional monarchies.

• The Iran-Iraq War (1980–1988): Saddam Hussein's brutal invasion of Iran left the country isolated and vulnerable. Facing conventional military inferiority and international ostracization, Tehran turned to asymmetric warfare and non-state actors as a cost-effective defense strategy.

Creation of Proxy Networks

• Asymmetric Strategy: Lacking powerful conventional allies, Iran used the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and its Quds Force to train, fund, and build ideological and military loyalty among foreign groups.

• Regional Alliances: Tehran cultivated proxies like Hezbollah in Lebanon (founded in 1982), Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad in Gaza, and later the Houthis in Yemen and various militias in Iraq.Strategic Objectives

  • Regional Hegemony: Iran uses these groups to project power, counter Israel and the United States, and pressure rival regional powers like Saudi Arabia.

  • Forward Defense: By fighting adversaries through proxies on foreign soil (such as Lebanon, Iraq, and Yemen) rather than inside Iranian borders, the regime attempts to secure its survival and deter direct foreign invasion.

Edited September 23Sep 23 by fredwiggy

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

They already had their own personal reasons.The 1979 Revolution and Ideology

Who caused that?

The US by shielding the SHAH and putting him on the throne in the first place!

If he nukes Iran, Russia would be in right to nuke Ukraine in that case ?

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

To prevent Iran from using them on other countries within their reach. They are also America's allies.

Who are America's allies?

I don't think the US has any allies left.

PS; That still does not answer the question above which I will repeat for you;

You said;

"I've never been worried about nuclear weapons. No one's going to use them"

To which I said;

"Then why go to war to stop a country having them?"

But here you say you are worried about Iran using weapons that TRUMP has claimed numerous times to have destroyed!

Make your mind up!

7 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Who caused that?

The US by shielding the SHAH and putting him on the throne in the first place!

Read the reasons and history. Trusting someone often backfires and some things do go as you thought they would

4 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Who are America's allies?

I don't think the US has any allies left.

PS; That still does not answer the question above which I will repeat for you;

You said;

"I've never been worried about nuclear weapons. No one's going to use them"

To which I said;

"Then why go to war to stop a country having them?"

But here you say you are worried about Iran using weapons that TRUMP has claimed numerous times to have destroyed!

Make your mind up!

Here's an easy list to find....NATO Allies (Europe and North America)

• The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) binds the U.S. and 31 other sovereign nations—including Canada, the United Kingdom, France, Germany, and Turkey—to a system of collective defense where an attack on one is considered an attack on all.

Indo-Pacific Allies

• Australia and New Zealand: Bound alongside the U.S. historically through regional security agreements like the ANZUS Treaty, with Australia serving as a primary defense technology and submarine cooperation partner.

• Japan and South Korea: Core bilateral treaty allies hosting major U.S. military presences to maintain regional stability.

• The Philippines: A long-standing Southeast Asian mutual defense treaty partner.

Middle East and Other Key Partners

• Israel: Considered one of America's closest and most reliable strategic partners in the Middle East.

• Major Non-NATO Allies (MNNA): A designation given to nations like Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Qatar, Thailand, and Argentina that provides them with distinct military and financial advantages in working with U.S. defense forces.

• Re -read my previous answer about nukes. And re-read why Iran became a terrorist organization. It doesn't matter what Trump says but what happens. Too many here take things they read too seriously and don't understand we aren't hearing all of what's going on .

Edited September 23Sep 23 by fredwiggy

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Read the reasons and history. Trusting someone often backfires and some things do go as you thought they would

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Read the reasons and history. Trusting someone often backfires and some things do go as you thought they would

Trusting TRUMP has proved that!

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Re -read my previous answer about nukes. It doesn't matter what Trump says but what happens. Too many here take things they read too seriously and don't understand we aren't hearing all of what's going on .

Then I suggest yet again that you re-read your posts and my question;

Here it is again in case you have forgotten it;

You said;

"I've never been worried about nuclear weapons. No one's going to use them"

To which I said;

"Then why go to war to stop a country having them?"

Edited September 23Sep 23 by scottiejohn

Just now, scottiejohn said:

Then re-read yore post and my question;

Here it is again in case you have forgotten it;

You said;

"I've never been worried about nuclear weapons. No one's going to use them"

To which I said;

"Then why go to war to stop a country having them?"

It's best not to skim and read all things posted thoroughly so I don't have to repeat myself.

13 hours ago, ukrules said:

My prediction : Nobody will care. Not one bit.

That's one of the worst predictions ever made in the history of the planet.

Congratulations!

On 9/22/2026 at 5:30 PM, fredwiggy said:

"This is true. He makes many threats of apocalyptic proportions trying to force Iran to negotiate. He's done this all along, and they don't know what to think, as the bombing continues when he says it will, so it keeps them thinking.

World leaders, analysts, and foreign allies have grown accustomed to this pattern, noting that his most radical declarations are often fenced in by institutional pushback, area allies urging de-escalation, or a strategic preference for monetary leverage over full-scale conflict

America will never use a nuke on Iran as it would worsen ties with most everyone.

"America will never use a nuke on Iran as it would worsen ties with most everyone."

Polls in the US show that most Americans are very dissatisfied / way less than pleased and poll numbers getting worse re trumps policies on Iran,

Just a reminder that the topic is: "If Donald Trump Nukes Iran What WIll Be The Reaction Around The World?"

Off topic posts have been removed. Please stay on topic.

If Russia nukes Ukraine what would be the reaction around the world ? Same I guess if DT nukes Iran.

Barking dogs don't bite. And this dog barks all the time.

13 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Those who keep bringing up the schoolgirl thing and calling it a war crime are ignorant, as it wasn't intentional.

13 hours ago, HolmesEquivelant said:

Japan brought the bomb onto themselves.

This is nothing less than Nazi speak.

This is exactly how you two sound: "If the Jews did better integrate and were less rich, they would not have been gassed; they brought it unto themselves. Anyway, most of it kind of was not intentional."

I do not know, if you two do not realize your mindset, or simply do not care that you are evil.