rocky123 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 My village Raviporn on Kho Noi (boonsampan), had 5 break ins last night, in one of the break ins the Thai burglar sexualy assalted a young mother and held a knife to her childs throat, the police were informed and told her to come down to banglamung police station to file a report. In another a 70 year old man was punched 4 times and forced to hand over money and valuables. In the last 6 months there have been 30 such crimes in the village. Wheres the security i hear you ask, they were asleep and did,nt notice anything. If you are thinking of renting or buying here, buy a gun as these guys go in your room armed and with no police around here, your on your own. If no have gun pretend to be asleep and let them rob you or you will be killed in your bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdf Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 My village Raviporn on Kho Noi (boonsampan), had 5 break ins last night, in one of the break ins the Thai burglar sexualy assalted a young mother and held a knife to her childs throat, the police were informed and told her to come down to banglamung police station to file a report. In another a 70 year old man was punched 4 times and forced to hand over money and valuables. In the last 6 months there have been 30 such crimes in the village. Wheres the security i hear you ask, they were asleep and did,nt notice anything. If you are thinking of renting or buying here, buy a gun as these guys go in your room armed and with no police around here, your on your own. If no have gun pretend to be asleep and let them rob you or you will be killed in your bed. Home invasions are one of the most terrifying of crimes. Here where a law abiding citizen is not allowed home protection, the security guards are most often useless or accomplices, and the police ...... My hopes for all of us. Does anyone think as food and oil prices skyrocket, it is going to get better? kdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Buy a dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaimai Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Buy a dog Sound advice - perhaps someone can pass it on to the traumatised Thai mother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmCross Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Or better still rescue a couple of street dogs they make great guard dogs and are very loyal and grateful for a good home and regular food. They can live out side and will protect your property better than any guard can. We have 3 rescued street dogs and we have had no problems at all with unwelcome visitors in the 3 years since we have had them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Buy a dog Sound advice - perhaps someone can pass it on to the traumatised Thai mother Obviously we are talking prevention, won't do any good to those already affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky123 Posted June 9, 2008 Author Share Posted June 9, 2008 Most homes here has a dog, that dont deture these evil people. Maybe the security are in on it, i dont know but I will not sleep good here no more, may sell up and buy a condo if i can find a buyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cali4995 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I've always thought some of the crime problems on the periphery of the city were actually more horrific. It has to do a lot with Pattaya's demographics, how many local Thais are actually native to the province, and how many have moved here from somewhere else, without income or jobs and all too often they're borrowing money from the wrong people or on drugs and it's all just one big pressure-cooker waiting to blow-up. If I ever end-up living in a stand alone house it will be locked-down like a firebase during wartime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaiyapoon Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 My friend in Pattaya had his dog poisoned before he was robbed.He has since moved to Chiang Mai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raro Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 A dog is a sound advise...depending on the dog. A friend of mine has some Argentinian dogs..burglar came and left with one leg missing... We also had break-ins recently at our village although the security is better-than-average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denb Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 its a f... shame mate, i live on the same soi but i work away in the middle east, i got my misses a pitbull but i am more scared of her little chitsu, her bark is worse then her bite i just hope that the noise level with them two dogs barking and growling will keep the low life away hang the scum, i hope the security is good in my village, it looks ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sohn Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Buy a dog No, buy a big <deleted> off dangerous dog and get a home security system as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ungabunga Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Rocky, my wife's mother lives on this village and my daughter stays there with her grandparents, so naturally I was seriously concerned. I was called there yesterday after the news broke to help beef up security around the house. Banglamung Cable TV was there and reported the story, but I was told later that Raviporn village had paid them off not to broadcast it, fearing about the adverse publicity. Anyways, I went to Homeworks yesterday to buy door locks and am getting a quote for security grilles (and also a dog - a vicious one that's friendly to mother-in-laws and likes kids). The old addage 'security is only an issue if you haven't got it'. What gets me is that every self respecting security bloke knows that 3am-4am is the prime time for burglars. So why is it that they're asleep in their cosy hut at the time? Their salary isn't exactly great, but they should value the fact they've got a job and take it seriously. They should at least walk around the place constantly. I hope you and other residents take issue with Raviporn office and put serious pressure on them to improve things. I know I will. I'll also be bringing some security friends to have a 'friendly chat' with the security guys. What they do in another village is periodically fire off a few rounds into the air, to let the wouldbe theives know that they're armed. In three years they have not had anything stolen. Funny that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyadam Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 What amazes me is the developers/management of these villages have the cheek to charge for "security"!!!! All the residents should refuse to pay the security bill, and those who lost anything should ask them to replace it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymshark Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Have you seen what passes for a security guard in Thailand? Old men and slow witted types who get paid a pittance and sleep on the job. Now stick a few western sized and well trained lumps on the gate and pay them a decent wage (and I mean decent) then you might get some decent security. You can't pay peanuts and then whinge when they don't do their job properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barky Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Gymshark, Firstly a westener probably wouldn't be interested, and the management would not pay the kind of salary needed anyhow. So that idea won't work. The fact is once the developers have your money they don't give a twig about the residents. Residents are on there own. Oh yes and the cops don't care because they are getting a cut of the stolen property. The choices are: move, really beef up the home security, form a vigelanty group between all the neighbours to do rosted turns on security patrols (of course all armed with baseball bats, dogs, knives etc), or they all stop paying for existing security and pool money to hire their own. Sleep well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sohn Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Have you seen what passes for a security guard in Thailand? Old men and slow witted types who get paid a pittance and sleep on the job. Now stick a few western sized and well trained lumps on the gate and pay them a decent wage (and I mean decent) then you might get some decent security. You can't pay peanuts and then whinge when they don't do their job properly. Why do you think they come in through the front gate??????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymshark Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Have you seen what passes for a security guard in Thailand? Old men and slow witted types who get paid a pittance and sleep on the job. Now stick a few western sized and well trained lumps on the gate and pay them a decent wage (and I mean decent) then you might get some decent security. You can't pay peanuts and then whinge when they don't do their job properly. Why do you think they come in through the front gate??????????? No smart ass, but they are supposed to patrol as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sohn Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) Can the petrols see around the back of the house,, because thats the place they get in from. over the wall, bust the door or window open. Smart ass. Edited June 10, 2008 by sohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymshark Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Can the petrols see around the back of the house,, because thats the place they get in from.over the wall, bust the door or window open. Smart ass. Yeah, if they are doing their job properly. One eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chivo Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I am opposed to violence, and would rather less guns in the world for sure, but if someone enters MY house and I feel my wife or daughter are in danger of death or sexual assault, I have no problems dropping a few bullets in the criminal. If one enters your house, can you be exonerated if you shoot him for self defense? does he have to have a gun too? or a knife? in the west you'd be ok to protect your family. how about here? any factual information on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barky Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Chivo, If you had to "drop someone" please be sensible enough to remove the body from your property very descretely, erase any evidence of contact with you or your home and dump the body far enough away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Buy a dog No, buy a big <deleted> off dangerous dog and get a home security system as well. Or an electric fence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzestan Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I am opposed to violence, and would rather less guns in the world for sure, but if someone enters MY house and I feel my wife or daughter are in danger of death or sexual assault, I have no problems dropping a few bullets in the criminal.If one enters your house, can you be exonerated if you shoot him for self defense? does he have to have a gun too? or a knife? in the west you'd be ok to protect your family. how about here? any factual information on this? No you're not. At least not in Belgium my home country. cheers onzestan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justbob Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 >Their salary isn't exactly great, but they should value the fact they've got a job and take it seriously Do you really think that people want to risk their lives for a couple of baht? You get what you pay for. Are there exist in pattaya some licensed security agencies with firearms and trained stuff? If are then this is best choise but definately more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticpig Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 He ment to say the, Wild West. he has no info on life out side the USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotsira Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I am opposed to violence, and would rather less guns in the world for sure, but if someone enters MY house and I feel my wife or daughter are in danger of death or sexual assault, I have no problems dropping a few bullets in the criminal.If one enters your house, can you be exonerated if you shoot him for self defense? does he have to have a gun too? or a knife? in the west you'd be ok to protect your family. how about here? any factual information on this? In the west you have to use eqaul force to protect yourself , if your intruder has a gun then you can shoot him and get away with it, but if he doesn't then you can't.Most western countries laws judge the situation on having to use the right amount of force required without it being excesive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWalkingMan Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Can't the people in the village get together and have home alarms installed? Maybe some type of discount can be had if enough people sign up. I know that if I were ever to live one of these villages, I would have a home security system. TheWalkingMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymshark Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 This is why my wife won't live in a house in her own country. That's why we live in a condo with triple layer security. Sad state of affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaimate Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 we have a very laud alarm system ,its fitted to all doors and windows ,we activate it when we go to bed and downstairs there is a motion sensor,also have a panic button and signs on all our fences in thai ,english and witha picture of an alarm ,we have never been burgled ,unfortunatly our next door neighbour who is a copper was.but it was far more unfortunate for the burgular as he was unlucky enough to break in when the cop was there,you should have seen his face as he was led out at gunpoint . but the best bit was when the guards and the security manager were read the riot act ,ever since our guards are super alert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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