g00dgirl Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 They have been clearing an area of land next to the lake at Nai Harn, the area that had been used to dump rubbish and tree cuttings for quite a while. Does anyone know what they are going to build there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickencurry Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Whatever it is it's got to be an improvement on the rubbish dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muaythaifarang Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Hi Goodgirl! You are the Sinbi Muaythai Moderator also arnt you? There is no news as to what they are going to build as yet but maybe they should use the time TO FINALLY finish the WAT they have been building there for years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggybear Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 They have been clearing an area of land next to the lake at Nai Harn, the area that had been used to dump rubbish and tree cuttings for quite a while. Does anyone know what they are going to build there? anyone for craps? My money says.............................a 7-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDRIDER Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 HI Nope, no 7-11, Big C it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiddlehead Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 How about a fitness park complete with tennis courts. Nah! Never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g00dgirl Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 (edited) How about a fitness park complete with tennis courts. Nah! Never happen. Happened already, see this thread: Sports Club In Rawai http://www.phuketsport.com/ (seems to be down at the moment?) Edited July 24, 2008 by g00dgirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g00dgirl Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 I'm sad to see the posts so far are mainly complaints or jokes about the country we choose to stay in and where the majority of us are guests. I can understand that it might be tempting and I might forget myself sometimes, but let's not forget it. My post was very neutral, the dumping of rubbish was a simple fact stated without being a complaint. muaythaifarang, have you donated to the Wat yet? It would be great if only people posted who can actually contribute with information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggybear Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I'm sad to see the posts so far are mainly complaints or jokes about the country we choose to stay in and where the majority of us are guests. I can understand that it might be tempting and I might forget myself sometimes, but let's not forget it. My post was very neutral, the dumping of rubbish was a simple fact stated without being a complaint. muaythaifarang, have you donated to the Wat yet? It would be great if only people posted who can actually contribute with information. Well then you won't get any responses, go ask the Orb-a-Jor. No sense of humor or ability to handle random posts? Sounds like the soapbox you are on is getting a little slippery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Burr Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 (edited) I'm sad to see the posts so far are mainly complaints or jokes about the country we choose to stay in and where the majority of us are guests. I can understand that it might be tempting and I might forget myself sometimes, but let's not forget it. My post was very neutral, the dumping of rubbish was a simple fact stated without being a complaint. muaythaifarang, have you donated to the Wat yet? It would be great if only people posted who can actually contribute with information. Tired of hearing this crap. We are not guests. Guests are people you have over to dinner. Guests get invitations. Guests have responsibilities as does the host. We are all long term, or, short term tourists, not guests and as tourists (consumers of a product) we have a right to complain. Edited July 24, 2008 by Sir Burr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 We ARE guests and we have little or no RIGHTS. If you loose sight of that then it's time you either went back home or found another adoptive country. I never ever forget that I AM a GUEST here in Thailand, despite being a Thai taxpayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 (edited) Could be the or bor tor decided to clean up the eyesore. Speaking of the lake, what is being built across the lake from the now clean plot of land. Is that a hotel, resort, or private residence being built in the side of the hill on the westside of the lake? Edited July 24, 2008 by steelepulse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffphuket Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 We ARE guests and we have little or no RIGHTS. If you loose sight of that then it's time you either went back home or found another adoptive country. I never ever forget that I AM a GUEST here in Thailand, despite being a Thai taxpayer. 100% correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggybear Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Could be the or bor tor decided to clean up the eyesore. Speaking of the lake, what is being built across the lake from the now clean plot of land. Is that a hotel, resort, or private residence being built in the side of the hill on the westside of the lake? Residence, went by to flog some product and was informed. Nice pad !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Burr Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 We ARE guests and we have little or no RIGHTS. If you loose sight of that then it's time you either went back home or found another adoptive country. I never ever forget that I AM a GUEST here in Thailand, despite being a Thai taxpayer. 100% correct You people stay as guests then; I'll stay as a long term tourist (non-tax payer) and retain my right to complain. Everybody happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g00dgirl Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 Could be the or bor tor decided to clean up the eyesore. Speaking of the lake, what is being built across the lake from the now clean plot of land. Is that a hotel, resort, or private residence being built in the side of the hill on the westside of the lake? Thank you for keeping on topic steelepulse, it doesn't look like a pure clean-up to me because that there are clear, straight borders of the part that's being cleared, the earth is being moved to be level and all vegetation is removed within these borders. On the opposite side of the lake I believe it's going to be a hotel, there's a new blue sign in front where they are building a road leading up the site, I forgot the name on the sign now, I think it's some known hotel chain. Regarding the right to complain, it's fine to have a debate about it, I think there is at least one other current thread about the complaining issue where we can debate it with many others who are interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 We ARE guests and we have little or no RIGHTS. If you loose sight of that then it's time you either went back home or found another adoptive country. I never ever forget that I AM a GUEST here in Thailand, despite being a Thai taxpayer. When people talk like this I wonder how many countries they have lived ? When does the country where you live stop being a 'host' and start being home.. I am now at 6 going on 7 years here (fresh of the boat to many) and the longest place I have ever lived in one place for in my entire life was 8 years.. So soon I will have lived here on Phuket for longer than anywhere else is the world. I was born in one country.. at a few months old moved to a second.. Age 4 to a 3rd.. multiple places there and my passport has that cover.. Then since late teens theres been stateside, years in mainland Europe, N africa, and years now in Thailand. Where is this mythical 'home' I am supposed to head back to ?? This is home. I am a resident here, I may not be a citizen and I may not have full rights but this is where I live, thats not a 'guest' to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggybear Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 We ARE guests and we have little or no RIGHTS. If you loose sight of that then it's time you either went back home or found another adoptive country. I never ever forget that I AM a GUEST here in Thailand, despite being a Thai taxpayer. I am a resident here, I may not be a citizen and I may not have full rights but this is where I live, thats not a 'guest' to me. Seems to me something of a lame debate over terminology. Doesn't farang cover it? "Guest"? Yeah, tell that to the boys in brown next time they stop you. "khatord khrap, don't give me that ticket, I'm a guest".......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggybear Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Could be the or bor tor decided to clean up the eyesore. Speaking of the lake, what is being built across the lake from the now clean plot of land. Is that a hotel, resort, or private residence being built in the side of the hill on the westside of the lake? On the opposite side of the lake I believe it's going to be a hotel, there's a new blue sign in front where they are building a road leading up the site, I forgot the name on the sign now, I think it's some known hotel chain. The sign says "All Season's Resort" and that is the old Sabana Resort on the beach at Nai Hairn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jts-khorat Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 We ARE guests and we have little or no RIGHTS. If you loose sight of that then it's time you either went back home or found another adoptive country. I never ever forget that I AM a GUEST here in Thailand, despite being a Thai taxpayer. I would heartily disagree to this (as I have on several occasions); a 'guest' is somebody who is invited by the host, a favored individual who gets special treatment. He has the responsibility to be polite, maybe bring a gift or two and be generally amicable, but a guest would have the same rights extended under the roof as the owner of the house itself. What LivinginKata describes is something entirely different than a guest: Because we are simply customers -- because this is all what the Thais wish to extend to us: a service instead of an invitation. We are wanted here to spend our money, can be sent back at any whim -- which gives us the right to complain about every lacking service and to merely follow the rules with as little effort as possible (because else we will have to pay more). I of course would happily hear examples that would make my first statement true(er) than the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g00dgirl Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 The sign says "All Season's Resort" and that is the old Sabana Resort on the beach at Nai Hairn. Ah ok, I didn't know about the Sabana resort having been renamed, then I have no idea what the construction opposite of the cleared land is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiddlehead Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 We ARE guests and we have little or no RIGHTS. If you loose sight of that then it's time you either went back home or found another adoptive country. I never ever forget that I AM a GUEST here in Thailand, despite being a Thai taxpayer. I would heartily disagree to this (as I have on several occasions); a 'guest' is somebody who is invited by the host, a favored individual who gets special treatment. He has the responsibility to be polite, maybe bring a gift or two and be generally amicable, but a guest would have the same rights extended under the roof as the owner of the house itself. What LivinginKata describes is something entirely different than a guest: Because we are simply customers -- because this is all what the Thais wish to extend to us: a service instead of an invitation. We are wanted here to spend our money, can be sent back at any whim -- which gives us the right to complain about every lacking service and to merely follow the rules with as little effort as possible (because else we will have to pay more). I of course would happily hear examples that would make my first statement true(er) than the last. Well, this morning i was out for my morning jog and decided to follow some little used roads up by the Big Buddha. (i headed north) I went pretty far and ended up maybe 4 - 5 miles out there and came upon a small shack/house with a nice view. A man was leaving and was so nice to me. I thought he'd give me lip for trespassing. Instead, he offered me water and when i told him he had a nice property, he showed me around a bit. I just can't imagine that kind of hospitality in my country (US)to the foreign people there (Mexican's anyway) I think the Thai people are very nice most of the time. The ones that are not seem to be the ones that work in the tourist industry and get treated rudely by the tourists so, it rubs off and they get rude back. Go into the countryside/mountainside or even off the island. I think you will find the Thai people very hospitable and friendly. I always try to respect their ways and consider myself a guest in their country. I know a few farangs who don't look at it like that though. I'd rather see the glass half full same as HB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickencurry Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Getting back to orig posting, what is the construction then? Anybody found out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggybear Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Getting back to orig posting, what is the construction then? Anybody found out? Today I saw a green government sign with white writing all in Thai at the site. So if anybody has a Thai friend that can read that, I'll bet we get the scoop. I'm guessing it says something about fines for illegal dumping. Sorry, I'm not that up to speed on my Thai reading skills, in fact, I have none at all...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDRIDER Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 HI They will not build there (now) just cleaned up the place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggybear Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 HIThey will not build there (now) just cleaned up the place considering how many locals use that area as the beginning point for a run around the lake, it would be great to have some grass, chin up bars, sit up benches, sort of a stretching /exercise area right there. Anyone know the process of starting such? Orb-a-jor I suppose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickencurry Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 HIThey will not build there (now) just cleaned up the place considering how many locals use that area as the beginning point for a run around the lake, it would be great to have some grass, chin up bars, sit up benches, sort of a stretching /exercise area right there. Anyone know the process of starting such? Orb-a-jor I suppose? I think a nice Indian or Chinese restaurant would be a better idea - none in Nai Harn or Rawai as far as I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Burr Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Anyone know the process of starting such? Orb-a-jor I suppose? The Rawai Or Bor Tor at the end of Rawai beach, but, since you're not a Thai voter.........see what i'm getting at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggybear Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Anyone know the process of starting such? Orb-a-jor I suppose? The Rawai Or Bor Tor at the end of Rawai beach, but, since you're not a Thai voter.........see what i'm getting at? gotcha.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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