Lies

[Lotnoy]

I brought my wife over to the UK from Thailand. She seemed so sweet and innocent and a genuine nice person. I didnot listen to the horror stories of others who have been ripped off by Thai women because I thought that everyone is an individual and deserves a chance- you cant stereotype a whole race as untrustworthy. I thought that it was real love, i am only 8 years older that her, i am 31 now. We have been together for 4 years. I have supported her, sent loads of money to her family and renorvated her house. I always thought she was so special because she made out that she was so honest and good hearted.

I was planning to buy a new house in Thailand which she wanted in her name.

I met her on the second night of my first ever trip to Thailand in and I thought that because she was not working in a bar there was more chance that she was genuine as i had been warned about bar girls by my friends. I was introduced to her, however she lied to me and ive found out she used to work in a bar.( which i would not have minded if she was honest, its just all the lies that i can't stand)

I used to send at least 15 thousand bart a month to her but there was always more expences for endless medical bills and problems.(lies)

Since she's been in England she has been very expensive always want, want, want, she was always on the phone running up huge bills, she has been seeing another guy behind my back and lied about it with a smile on her sweet looking face. She has loads of Thai friends and i am sure they have been coaching her.

Anyway she has left me now, however she has made a big mistake, she has forgotten that her visa will soon run out and that she will have to return to Thailand. Because its such a short marriage (2 years) and i have sent so much to Thailand already she is not entitled to any money. She is trying to come back to me and being so nice and sweet now its too late and she has realised her visa will run out !

Anyway i dont want to put people off Thai women, i didnot listen when people warned me and i'm sure that nobody else will, i am young enough to recover but i feel sorry for these 50 years olds who get ripped off for their life savings. I know that i deserve everything that has happened because nobody made me go out to Thailand and fall for a con artist. I see other people making the same mistake as me but just keep quite because I know they will not believe me as they think their girlfriend/ wife is genuine( and maybe they are right).

I've learnt my lesson now and will be fine but I am sure that i will not be the last idiot to get taken to the cleaners.

(this is just my opinion and i dont want to offend anyone and i am not saying that all Thai women are bad, just giving an example of what has happened to me, i hope it does not happen to anyone else.)

Edited January 11, 2005 by Lotnoy

[ProfessorFart]

Sorry to read your tale of woe. Sounds like a familiar story I'm afraid. Hope you learn from your experiences.

[peder.klockmann]

I'm sorry to hear that. I talk with my girl everynight and she tells me many, many things about everything. Here's one situation (that has me in a bind):

She told me about one of her friends. That I will refer to as; "Ying". Basically, Ying, will be getting Married and moving to a Scandinavian Country starting with the letter "D". I will call her fiance en "Mark". Ying worked in a Bar. Mark came on his vacation, met her the last week of it. At the time Ying allready had a boyfriend that lived on an Island near Pattaya. Ying loved her boyfriend derely even though he treats her like crap. None of Yings friend like this guy at all. He shouts at her and everything. Now back to en Mark, He didn't know about Yings previous boyfriend but, found out later somehow, I am not sure. Ying didn't love Mark *yet*, felt obligated to lie and make him feel better. Ying still went and spent quality time again and again with the "ex" on the Island when en Mark was away. en Mark calls Ying about 3 or so times a day from the impression I get. Now she loves en Mark a bit, I believe that the year she will spend with him will either force her to love him, or just make her that much of a better actress. She plans on getting pregnant with him; even boasted that she will have a child before me and my girl do. Which I think is quite impossible, heheh. Ying told en Mark that she will be away for a few days attending mine and my girls wedding. Not the case. She will be spending the time with the "ex" Island guy. I am supposed to keep my mouth shut when en Mark comes back. My girl places a lot of trust in me, and I trust her. I am between a rock and a hard place. I might be able to accidentally get extremely drunk and "say something I shouldn't have". Maybe then it won't be looked upon as a break in the trust circle. Maybe even this post is breaking the trust she has for me. What would you do?

[gburns57au]

I brought my wife over to the UK from Thailand. She seemed so sweet and innocent and a genuine nice person. I didnot listen to the horror stories of others who have been ripped off by Thai women because I thought that everyone is an individual and deserves a chance- you cant stereotype a whole race as untrustworthy. I thought that it was real love, i am only 8 years older that her, i am 31 now. We have been together for 4 years. I have supported her, sent loads of money to her family and renorvated her house. I always thought she was so special  because she made out that she was so honest and good hearted.

I was planning to buy a new house in Thailand which she wanted in her name.

I met her on the second night of my first ever trip to Thailand in and I thought that because she was not working in a bar there was more chance that she was genuine as i had been warned about bar girls by my friends. I was introduced to her, however she lied to me and ive found out  she used to work in a bar.( which i would not have minded if she was honest, its just all the lies that i can't stand)

I used to send at least 15 thousand bart a month to her but there was always more expences for endless medical bills and problems.(lies)

Since she's been in England she has been very expensive always want, want, want, she was always on the phone running up huge bills, she has been seeing another guy behind my back and lied about it with a smile on her sweet looking face. She has loads of Thai friends and i am sure they have been coaching her.

Anyway she has left me now, however she has made a big mistake, she has forgotten that her visa will soon run out and that she will have to return to Thailand. Because its such a short marriage (2 years) and i have sent so much to Thailand already she is not entitled to  any money. She is trying to come back to me and being so nice and sweet now its too late and she has realised her visa will run out !

Anyway i dont want to put people off Thai women, i didnot listen when people warned me and i'm sure that nobody else will, i am young enough to recover but i feel sorry for these 50 years olds who get ripped off for their life savings. I know that i deserve everything that has happened because nobody made me go out to Thailand and fall for a con artist. I see other people making the same mistake as me but just keep quite because I know they will not believe me as they think their girlfriend/ wife is genuine( and maybe they are right).

I've learnt my lesson now and will be fine but I am sure that i will not be the last idiot to get taken to the cleaners.

(this is just my opinion  and i dont want to offend anyone and i am not saying that all Thai women are bad, just giving an example of what has happened to me, i hope it does not happen to anyone else.)

There are more trolls here than in Hans Christian Andersen story book....

[britmaveric]

I'm sorry to hear that.  I talk with my girl everynight and she tells me many, many things about everything.  Here's one situation (that has me in a bind):

She told me about one of her friends.  That I will refer to as; "Ying".  Basically, Ying, will be getting Married and moving to a Scandinavian Country starting with the letter "D".  I will call her fiance en "Mark".  Ying worked in a Bar.  Mark came on his vacation, met her the last week of it.  At the time Ying allready had a boyfriend that lived on an Island near Pattaya.  Ying loved her boyfriend derely even though he treats her like crap.  None of Yings friend like this guy at all.  He shouts at her and everything.  Now back to en Mark, He didn't know about Yings previous boyfriend but, found out later somehow, I am not sure.  Ying didn't love Mark *yet*, felt obligated to lie and make him feel better.  Ying still went and spent quality time again and again with the "ex" on the Island when en Mark was away.  en Mark calls Ying about 3 or so times a day from the impression I get.  Now she loves en Mark a bit, I believe that the year she will spend with him will either force her to love him, or just make her that much of a better actress.  She plans on getting pregnant with him; even boasted that she will have a child before me and my girl do.  Which I think is quite impossible, heheh.  Ying told en Mark that she will be away for a few days attending mine and my girls wedding.  Not the case.  She will be spending the time with the "ex" Island guy.  I am supposed to keep my mouth shut when en Mark comes back.  My girl places a lot of trust in me, and I trust her.  I am between a rock and a hard place.  I might be able to accidentally get extremely drunk and "say something I shouldn't have".  Maybe then it won't be looked upon as a break in the trust circle.  Maybe even this post is breaking the trust she has for me.  What would you do?

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Summarize: Ying has two lads and stringing them along.

[peder.klockmann]

Summarize: Ying has two lads and stringing them along. 

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OK:

Ying-

two guys

she likes to bone her ex

getting married to en Mark and moving to his Country for a Year, planning on getting Preggy with him.

Island guy-

he knows about en Mark, and their Marraiage soon, but likes to bone Ying and treat her like crap, non of Yings friends like him at all.

en Mark-

found out about Island guy somehow, been told he is the past; forgave, moved on. Comming very soon to take her and, get married in his home country.

I am supposed to not fill him in and pretend everything is hunkey-dorey. I want to tell him but; maybe he is better off not knowing. He is happy with her, I don't know what she will do when she goes to his country but, from her actions at home that might be obvious. If I tell him I think it will create problems with me and my girl. I feel bad about it. I mean I've had friends before that I've covered for that were unfaithful. Maybe this just isn't any different. I am still on the other side of the fence. An observer. Sorry I think I'm just venting now and answering my own questions.

[britmaveric]

Summarize: Ying has two lads and stringing them along. 

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OK:

Ying-

two guys

she likes to bone her ex

getting married to en Mark and moving to his Country for a Year, planning on getting Preggy with him.

Island guy-

he knows about en Mark, and their Marraiage soon, but likes to bone Ying and treat her like crap, non of Yings friends like him at all.

en Mark-

found out about Island guy somehow, been told he is the past; forgave, moved on. Comming very soon to take her and, get married in his home country.

I am supposed to not fill him in and pretend everything is hunkey-dorey. I want to tell him but; maybe he is better off not knowing. He is happy with her, I don't know what she will do when she goes to his country but, from her actions at home that might be obvious. If I tell him I think it will create problems with me and my girl. I feel bad about it. I mean I've had friends before that I've covered for that were unfaithful. Maybe this just isn't any different. I am still on the other side of the fence. An observer. Sorry I think I'm just venting now and answering my own questions.

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Perhaps after your mate Mark is married then all will work out and Ying will quit her deceptive practices! I think it would be wise to keep your gob shut on this one.

[mbkudu]

Summarize: Ying has two lads and stringing them along.

Next please.

[peder.klockmann]

Perhaps after your mate Mark is married then all will work out and Ying will quit her deceptive practices!  I think it would be wise to keep your gob shut on this one.

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I sure do hope that everything will work out for him. She is an awesome and pretty girl, I'd hate to see her stuck with the verbally abusive old Island dude. lol. Your right I should keep my mouth shut.

[NarrLing]

I'd also suggest politely dropping Ying out of your circle of friends.

Ying is using her friendship with you and your girl as an excuse for her 2 timing. That can only lead to future unwanted problems for you and your girl. If she is doing it now and things don't work out between Ying and Mark, I can see you and your girl being dragged deeper into the situation.

Why have extra hassles caused by someone else?

[Pablo H]

Is your mate Mark a close mate?

If so I would tell him the score, he has a right to know.

If you were in his shoes would you not expect your friends to tell you the truth?

[britmaveric]

Is your mate Mark a close mate?

If so I would tell him the score, he has a right to know.

If you were in his shoes would you not expect your friends to tell you the truth?

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Uh I dare say his mate will not believe him and it will cause all sorts of grief.

[Doctor John]

you cant stereotype a whole race as untrustworthy.

Biggest Liars I ever met in Thailand are Farang liars, they make up nearly as many stories as the Trolls on ThaiVisa Forum. Only nearly though.............

Edited January 11, 2005 by Doctor John

[Jack Jones]

To the orginal poster - are you married? If not, count your blessings

[mbkudu]

en Mark-

found out about Island guy somehow, been told he is the past; forgave, moved on. Comming very soon to take her and, get married in his home country.

Seems there is nothing more you could say; he knows already, no?

[peder.klockmann]

he know's she's seen him before, but not that she still does

I don't really know enMark at all, just another farang in the mist. Just was concerned for his future well being; I think she can change, it will just take her some time, in a scary new environment for her (ie his Country) where she doesn't know anybody at all but him.

I just don't want to cause either of them heart ache, or myself for that matter.

[haliburton]

Peder

You Will soon learn that thai girls lie all the time and just tell you what they think you want to hear!!

If you blow the whistle on your girls pal she will not thank you for it !

These girls stick together to get the best life they can for them and there family.

Hali

[snoophound]

Someone said ...not an unusual story and troll or not ,this happens with monotonous regularity.

Many of these marriages are not for love at all,more for ensuring their family and kids have some future and security back in Thailand.

I can see an educated girl who may have some job carreer prospects in the UK sticking around , or an older 35 plus woman ,but if you are a relatively uneducated bargirl with limited english and prospects why would you stay in UK????

We correspond with several friends who have ladies in various parts of UK

Most of the girls are cold,bored and lonely,the guy they are with is not the same guy they met in BKK or Patts and he is not rich anymore.

He goes to the pub with his mates and she doesnt like the pommy slappers they go out with or your slimey mates leering at her.

She is there to hopefuly find a job pref big money so send money back to mama and family.

A couple are quietly on the game.

I am not saying this is the case for all,but just the 5 or six girls we know personaly who married Uk guys and moved there expecting the good life.

Five of the six I know for a fact all would be back to thailand in a flash given some opportunity and independance,for that matter here in aus i know several who would do the same.....they have a very strong bond with their country,food and family.

Advice.

Dont fall in love until you know them well.

Dont marry them.

Do get them a visitor visa so they can see for themselves what your home is like.

Do be prepared to budget phone calls and family support.

Do try and understand family comes first with Thai girls.

en Mark-

found out about Island guy somehow, been told he is the past; forgave, moved on. Comming very soon to take her and, get married in his home country.

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Seems there is nothing more you could say; he knows already, no?

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[snoophound]

You may be one of the luckier ones Mr Ravisher.

These are personal experiences from having a business in Thailand and staying in touch with the Girls.

Anyone with close links to the Female Thai Expat community in most countries,esp the Ex BG crowd will tell you the same thing.

I doubt you see many in Greece.

There are more trolls here than in Hans Christian Andersen story book....

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And enough cynics to sink a ship.

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[penelope]

I brought my wife over to the UK from Thailand. She seemed so sweet and innocent and a genuine nice person. I didnot listen to the horror stories of others who have been ripped off by Thai women because I thought that everyone is an individual and deserves a chance- you cant stereotype a whole race as untrustworthy. I thought that it was real love, i am only 8 years older that her, i am 31 now. We have been together for 4 years. I have supported her, sent loads of money to her family and renorvated her house. I always thought she was so special  because she made out that she was so honest and good hearted.

I was planning to buy a new house in Thailand which she wanted in her name.

I met her on the second night of my first ever trip to Thailand in and I thought that because she was not working in a bar there was more chance that she was genuine as i had been warned about bar girls by my friends. I was introduced to her, however she lied to me and ive found out  she used to work in a bar.( which i would not have minded if she was honest, its just all the lies that i can't stand)

I used to send at least 15 thousand bart a month to her but there was always more expences for endless medical bills and problems.(lies)

Since she's been in England she has been very expensive always want, want, want, she was always on the phone running up huge bills, she has been seeing another guy behind my back and lied about it with a smile on her sweet looking face. She has loads of Thai friends and i am sure they have been coaching her.

Anyway she has left me now, however she has made a big mistake, she has forgotten that her visa will soon run out and that she will have to return to Thailand. Because its such a short marriage (2 years) and i have sent so much to Thailand already she is not entitled to  any money. She is trying to come back to me and being so nice and sweet now its too late and she has realised her visa will run out !

Anyway i dont want to put people off Thai women, i didnot listen when people warned me and i'm sure that nobody else will, i am young enough to recover but i feel sorry for these 50 years olds who get ripped off for their life savings. I know that i deserve everything that has happened because nobody made me go out to Thailand and fall for a con artist. I see other people making the same mistake as me but just keep quite because I know they will not believe me as they think their girlfriend/ wife is genuine( and maybe they are right).

I've learnt my lesson now and will be fine but I am sure that i will not be the last idiot to get taken to the cleaners.

(this is just my opinion  and i dont want to offend anyone and i am not saying that all Thai women are bad, just giving an example of what has happened to me, i hope it does not happen to anyone else.)

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Yep, there sure are a lot of slapper whores out there with hidden agendas. Try to mix with some Thais who are more integrated into the melting pot of society, rather than the lower crust thais/issans who tend to stick/fester together and make up the "thai community" abroad.

Keep your chin up mate, there are also lots of honest, genuine,trustworthy,loyal Thai females out there who make the aformentioned slappers look like the dirt they really are.

[Boon Mee]

I brought my wife over to the UK from Thailand. She seemed so sweet...

There are more trolls here than in Hans Christian Andersen story book....

Ain't that the Truth!

[medicinebox]

Marry an ugly basterd like my friend did.

She fukced off, and he didn't give a s.hit.

[kreon]

Yep, there sure are a lot of slapper whores out there with hidden agendas. Try to mix with some Thais who are more integrated into the melting pot of society, rather than the lower crust thais/issans who tend to stick/fester together and make up the "thai community" abroad.

Keep your chin up mate, there are also lots of honest, genuine,trustworthy,loyal Thai females out there who make the aformentioned slappers look like the dirt they really are.

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you're sure right there, that's why they got into the game at the first place, mind you this is the same worldwide. yeah, easy woman = $$, plus more $$$$ later

mind you, in society the same things happen but in disguise, its just depends on which game you wish to play, you win some, you lose some

au revoir

[britmaveric]

Yep, there sure are a lot of slapper whores out there with hidden agendas. Try to mix with some Thais who are more integrated into the melting pot of society, rather than the lower crust thais/issans who tend to stick/fester together and make up the "thai community" abroad.

Keep your chin up mate, there are also lots of honest, genuine,trustworthy,loyal Thai females out there who make the aformentioned slappers look like the dirt they really are.

Bit Harsh - I dont think anyone is dirt!

[Richard W]

Advice.

1. Dont fall in love until you know them well.

2. Dont marry them.

3. Do get them a visitor visa so they can see for themselves what your home is like.

4. Do be prepared to budget phone calls and family support.

5. Do try and understand family comes first with Thai girls.

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I think Item (1) is rarely feasible. Love seems to come first.

Items 2 and 3 are frequently not feasible for visitors to Thailand - maintaining an overseas girlfriend indefinitely can be unbearable. Visits to overseas boyfriends are generally not allowed, in particular to the UK. (There are rare exceptions.) The closest practical approximation to Item 3 is to bring them over on a fiancée visa.

[pnustedt]

Advice.

Dont fall in love until you know them well.

Dont marry them.

Do get them a visitor visa so they can see for themselves what your home is like.

Do be prepared to budget phone calls and family support.

Do try and understand family comes first with Thai girls.

Seems sound advice to me - just the approach I took - except I did marry one after a few years getting to know her.

To me trust is most important relationships - most do not survive without it and it takes time to earn trust.

[Pablo H]

Yep, there sure are a lot of slapper whores out there with hidden agendas. Try to mix with some Thais who are more integrated into the melting pot of society, rather than the lower crust thais/issans who tend to stick/fester together and make up the "thai community" abroad.

Keep your chin up mate, there are also lots of honest, genuine,trustworthy,loyal Thai females out there who make the aformentioned slappers look like the dirt they really are.

It seems you may have had a bad experience in the past with a woman from Issan but I dont see how you can tar them all with the same brush. I suppose you are 'upper crust' who would not be seen with the 'lower crust' Thais/Issans, ignorant fool.

[Insight]

Marry an ugly basterd like my friend did.

She fukced off, and he didn't give a s.hit.

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Good to see you back, medicinebox

[NedKelly]

If the original poster is not a troller....then maybe u could spend a few last baht onthis girl......pay someone to torch the house u wasted your cash on...!!

yeahyeah sorry about that couldnt hep my-sef !

As for Ms Ying.....Mr peder...I am happy u are not my friend !

[Ijustwannateach]

A lot of these types are reeeeallly clever about trading up. They'll use you to meet richer farang in Thailand, if they can. If they think you're the best they'll get here, they marry you and go back to your home country... then if they find someone better, they start acting up so you get rid of them- so you think (so opening poster thinks). But actually they've found ANOTHER richer guy than you, so by the time you've forced them home by cancelling their visa, they've got another offer of marriage! And you'll be walking past them on the street back home.

Have had this happen to more than one friend.

"Steven"