Why No Thai Men In Agogos?

[RusticCharm]

[male]

hmmm... what kind of a loser lets his girlfriend sell her ass

[AsiaMB]

I don't think I ever saw a Thai man in agogo... Is there another Walking street for Thai people somewhere?

Thai men get their GO GO'S,in kaoroke bars.Its my wet dream to be taken to them and score me a thai lady in one of these places(always want what you cant have).

THAI MEN CANT AFFORD IT......

[Mighty Mouse]

THAI MEN CANT AFFORD IT......

...or perhaps they're too clever to waste their money on it.

[Asianrider]

lot of thai girls choose to work in Farang customer bars because they have ended a bad relationship with thai man,

their mistake is believing the Farang man is necessarily any better

[chiangmaikelly]

90% of the P4P action is in Thailand is Thai on Thai. Can this really be news to anyone?

We are just a very small cog in a very large wheel.

[WinnieTheKhwai]

Chiangmaikelly : THANK YOU for writing that!! Most interesting thing I read on this forum in .. . ... in a long time.

[WinnieTheKhwai]

I think thats the point,generally speaking thai kaoroke bars are for thais only unless you are invited by a thai then its ok,i would love to go to them.

It's not an issue at all. Honestly all are welcome.

I think the "segregation" has more to do with preference. Preference in the format of the establishment, preference for the type of girls and interaction and so on. But that doesn't mean that on occasion it's very fun for both a Thai guy to visit a Western-aimed gogo bar (especially if its a good one) or for a Farang guy to visit a Thai place. I personally enjoy that a lot on occasion.

Also, note that in other places in Thailand you do find gogo bars where predominantly Thai people go. Still the atmosphere is a bit different; darker, mostly, and just less casual and fun. That said I also once visited a kind of hybrid form of a typical Thai singalong restaurant that included several stages with very wilde gogo style dancing. (So, actually, much wilder than the typical gogo shuffle to be more correct). Place served great food too, and that really was a lot of fun. And then of course there's the Coyote dancing type bars; not sure if those qualify as gogos but in format they're pretty close.

Note: All of this discussion is on *entertainment* places and the types that different groups of people like to visit for a night out, such as singalongs, karaokes, a-gogo's.. Really quite separate from a prostitution discussion which is not the focus or topic of this discussion.

Edited April 21, 2009 by WinnieTheKhwai

[male]

Ok, I think I saw some Thai men in agogo last night...

[davethailand]

Think you'll find plenty of gogos owned by the BiB!The Peppermint on Walking Street being a prime example,I know because I have a friend who enquired about buying it!

Peppermint isn't owned by the bib's, not many gogo's are.

[barrybike]

Are there Thai Go Go bars? Yes, definitely. One might think if you went to a Go Go bar in Chiang Mai that you were in a Thai bar. Although a lot of the men you might think are Thai are Japanese or Korean. Filipino men frequent Go Go's as well as men from Burma. A lot of them work on merchant ships that dock in Chalong and Rayong. Rayong has some striking women dancing. The high class places in Bangkok have been mentioned before and are much more expensive than most western Go Go bars. The same can be said of the Korean and Japanese places in Pattaya. If you ever want to go now is the time because this year they are letting in anyone although it is obvious they don't like European males very much.

Do all Thai Go Go dancers have Thai boyfriends? Nope. Some of them have Farang boyfriends.

I was a Go Go dancers boyfriend. I didn't want to be nor did I plan to be it just happened.

I had been living with an ex Go Go dancer for a year or so and paying our expenses. She had turned into a housewife and we were getting along as well as could be expected. We were living in Chiang Mai. When we moved to Pattaya things started to go downhill. There are few decent women in Pattaya. My lady asked me for an allowance. A ridiculous amount of money for a woman with a sixth grade education. I told her when pigs fly. Not being the brightest star in the sky she spent a couple of months observing pigs and when she saw no signs of them ever becoming airborne she became quite angry with me. I moved out. It is easier than kicking out a Thai woman. She and her daughter got a job dancing. She was in her late 30's and the daughter was 18.

You may think Go Go dancers make a lot of money but they don't really. They have a lot of expenses. They have to buy costumes and underwear. They go through a lot of underwear. They have to have their hair and makeup done daily. That includes picking lice out of their hair and their underarms plucked. If they are from Issan they also probably have to have their facial hair plucked. In some bars they are tested for disease weekly and the girls pick up the tab. A lot of the girls have drug habits and their boyfriends drug habits can amount to a lot of cash. There is also a lot of gambling in Pattaya and their best customers are Go Go dancers and gicks. I suppose a few send money home to their families and children. I never met any but I only knew a couple of thousand dancers and there are many more than that working in Pattaya.

After a month of bachelor bliss my Go Go girlfriend found me and told me she was lonely. She said I didn't have to give her an allowance, in fact she would pay me to be her boyfriend. She said her daughter missed me too and they both wanted to move back in with me. I am a soft touch for tears and heartfelt emotion so I said OK and I became a Thai Go Go dancers boyfriend.

At the first place she worked the owner did not mind me coming to watch her dance. There were three other Farang boyfriends and we all used to go together. My girlfriend did well on stage with tips although I must admit it was embarrassing at times to realize that half the population of Pattaya was familiar terms with certain parts of my sweethearts anatomy.

The second place she worked did not want boyfriends in the club so I would wait across the street in a bar owned by a man of Scandinavian descent. The girls from the club would come across the street on their breaks to smoke and buy me a drink and talk about the evening. The Scandinavian guy took to telling customers that he had a Falang that Go Go girls bought drinks for. When I would walk into his bar everyone looked at me funny. I would sit there without a drink till one of the girls came over and bought me one.

We would go out most nights after work to a Thai club. Her favorite clubs both have Issan in their names. She and her dancer friends would always pick up the tab. Most nights it was upwards of 10,000 baht. They not only bought drinks for me but the male singers and dancers at the clubs. I rarely met other Farangs at the clubs. When she went on trips with customers I would usually get a gold chain or bracelet when she came back. If it was only a short trip she would buy me clothes.

Most of the ladies I knew had more than one boyfriend. They seemed to specialize. One for dancing, one for show, one for emotional support and so on. I guess I was the emotional support one because I am not handsome, young nor sing or dance that well anymore. I asked one particularly attractive young woman what she saw in one guy who I knew she was having a relationship with. I enquired if it was because he was a good communicator. I always felt inferior because my Thai is not that good. She told me she never even spoke to the dude he was only for sex.

I learned a lot during my year as a Go Go dancer boyfriend. I don't much like the Thai places. Too potentially explosive because of drink and jealously. The liaisons are mostly temporary and change frequently. The sexual preferences of the partners seem to change daily so you never really know who is straight or gay. I got drugged and rolled once and that left a bad taste in my mouth although they were nice enough to bandage my legs after they rolled me out of a truck and onto the gravel in a parking lot. It is odd waking up at dawn in a strange parking lot with bandages in your legs with stars and cartoon characters on the bandages. Another friend of mine got home from a Thai place with three bullet holes in his fender. He had been too drunk to notice the shots when he was driving. His wife found them in the morning.

I used to think the Thai people were kidding when they told me they had no knowledge of what went on in the Go Go bars. It is really true sometimes. I have taken Thai friends to bars and they were amazed at what happened.

Last month I took a Thai lady friend of mine on a tour of Go Go bars in Pattaya. She got a serious crush on one female dancer even though she is straight to a fault. That surprised me. Doing my bit for women's lib I took her to a male Go Go bar. It was a high class place with unusually high drink prices. But the somewhat inebriated woman cried on my shoulder all the time we were in the place, "Why are there no handsome male dancers in Pattaya?" Personally I thought they had a decent range of men and they all looked like guys you see on Fashion TV but apparently this is not what the average Thai woman wants.

Pattaya is really skewed towards Farang males. The Japs and Koreans get charged a lot more and the majority of ladies available for Thai guys are not something to write home about. The guys I saw at the Thai clubs (discos and live bands and male Go Go's I did not think were something to write home about. It is easy to understand why there are so few non Thai women in Thailand. Did you ever see Japanese guys try to dance? That is a show. It is so pathetic you want to cry for them.

To sum up Thai working ladies in my experience, 80% have Thai boyfriends/girlfriends/other (the other means I could not tell what the heck they were i.e. toms, ladymen or aliens). 5% are pregnant and don't have boyfriends. 3% have a health condition that precludes male contact. 5% are so into chemical substances legal and whatever they don't remember what day it is let alone if they have a boyfriend. 5% are so addicted to gambling that no one will touch them. 1% are faithful to some religion that does not allow sexual contact before marriage so no one will go out with them. 1% are hard core working girls and don't have the time or energy for a personal life.

Thai clubs are numerous in Pattaya. There are 50 within 1000 yards of South Pattaya and 3^rd road. Most of them you would not know were clubs unless you knew the area. Some don't even have a sign over the door. They aren't the expensive joints that populate Bangkok. They are down and out grub clubs. You are not missing anything by not trying them. You can get in. Getting out may be a problem. It helps if you go with a giant Estonian guy who drives a big black car. It also helps if you speak Thai and some Estonian or Russian at least. Expect to take some knocks. Remember when you hit the ground tuck and roll. There are also after hours Thai gay clubs. They usually have a couple of women there. I went to one and ended up with the manager who was a lovely woman. She was a bit anxious though. She hadn't met a straight guy in 6 months. I had a good night. In another the ladyman boss called up his sister who came in to keep me company. They were quite congenial. Still the threat of getting a mickey and rolled but they are nicer about it.

I brought three drunk Go Go dancers into a Thai Karaoke late one night. They put on such a show that the manager of the club bought all my drinks and begged me to bring them nightly, he even offered me a job. Try a quart of Pernod with three Issan beauties right out of the rice paddy you can get in anyplace.

its hard to know weather to laugh at you after reading your story or feel pity for you for living such an existance...and do you feel proud for going to sit at a bar and buy nothing and wait for free drinks from go go dancers.come on ...i cant believe your being serious..

[WinnieTheKhwai]

hmmm... what kind of a loser lets his girlfriend sell her ass blink.gif

its hard to know weather to laugh at you after reading your story or feel pity for you for living such an existance...and do you feel proud for going to sit at a bar and buy nothing and wait for free drinks from go go dancers.come on ...i cant believe your being serious..

Look it's easy to criticize such a post.. Some people just aren't rich or have bad luck in life for a while and end up in strange relationships. It happens, and I think it's VERY interesting to read. By and large these folks really connect with the good, the bad and the ugly of that part of society. I think the story is both beautiful and sad and funny at the same time. Did you guys miss the part of his girlfriend's daughter actually missing having him around? Beautiful and sad at the same time.

So let's agree that it's at least much more interesting than a wealthy retiree coming over and marrying a girl from a bar who's younger than his youngest daughter and building a house in Nakhon Nowhere. Whoa, yeah that would be a lot less loser-ish.

I know a couple cases like Chiangmaikelly's.. by and large things just 'happened' and at least there's is a genuine attraction between a guy and the girl he ends up in a relationship with. (usually a rollercoaster type of relationship.. him better than me! ) But anyway, the point is that someone just plonking down 30K baht a month is not really guaranteed any genuine feelings of any kind, is he?

Edited April 22, 2009 by WinnieTheKhwai

[imaneggspurt]

Its probably a racist thing, they dont want to go with thai women that go with farang, however most thai men if given the opportunity will /would go with a farang woman,its nothing to do with price in my opinion as some thai men will spend a fortune on these karoake sorts,.

[soundman]

OK, the OP probably has his answer in there somewhere & since this topic has become mainly off topic, mongering & a little personal -we'll close it here.