Celta Course In Uk Or Thailand?

[whitethai]

OK so

Is it better to do a CELTA course in Thailand (is there a course in pattaya?) or UK?

Also would Thailand be cheaper to do a CELTA course?

Thanks

[Ijustwannateach]

Better for what purpose? Cost? Convenience for someone already living in the UK and/or Thailand? Use for teaching in the UK and/or Thailand? More detail about your specific situation would be helpful.

[whitethai]

Better for what purpose? Cost? Convenience for someone already living in the UK and/or Thailand? Use for teaching in the UK and/or Thailand? More detail about your specific situation would be helpful.

Well I am looking for the cheapest course and then probably go to China where I do not need a degree only CELTA

I would probably come to Thailand again to do the course then off to CHina if I hopefully pass it.

[whitethai]

Is this a legitimate company?

http://www.siameducationalexperience.org/fees.htm

OR this one which looke better

http://www.tesolcourse.com/

Edited May 3, 2009 by whitethai

[Loaded]

Is this a legitimate company?

http://www.siameducationalexperience.org/fees.htm

OR this one which looke better

http://www.tesolcourse.com/

Check that they can show you a school licence number. I believe siameducationalexperience publish theirs on their website. There was a thread recently on the best TEFL course in Chiang Mai:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Tefl-Mai-t238195.html

[whitethai]

Thanks for that

Is this a legitimate company?

http://www.siameducationalexperience.org/fees.htm

OR this one which looke better

http://www.tesolcourse.com/

Check that they can show you a school licence number. I believe siameducationalexperience publish theirs on their website. There was a thread recently on the best TEFL course in Chiang Mai:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Tefl-Mai-t238195.html

[brewsterbudgen]

Doing a CELTA in Thailand will certainly be cheaper. I can recommend ECC in Bangkok. The ECC Language School is not great, however, their CELTA course was excellent when I did it in 2005. ECC also run them in Phuket and (I think) Chiang Mai. International House in Bangkok also run a CELTA and Elite used to. Make sure anyone offering CELTA is the genuine article and is accredited by Cambridge.

If you plan to teach in Asia then it makes sense to train with Asian students.

Good luck.

[whitethai]

Doing a CELTA in Thailand will certainly be cheaper. I can recommend ECC in Bangkok. The ECC Language School is not great, however, their CELTA course was excellent when I did it in 2005. ECC also run them in Phuket and (I think) Chiang Mai. International House in Bangkok also run a CELTA and Elite used to. Make sure anyone offering CELTA is the genuine article and is accredited by Cambridge.

If you plan to teach in Asia then it makes sense to train with Asian students.

Good luck.

OK thanks but:

Do they have accommodation in the course price as I am really on a budget.

What is the URL please for EEC language school?

This is proper CELTA Cambridge certificate right not just a TESOL?

How far is it from the new airport? Is it near the Mabun Krong shopping centre by any chance as I know this area?

Edited May 5, 2009 by whitethai

[brewsterbudgen]

Accommodation isn't provided but they can point you in the direction of places to suit any budget. This is Bangkok you know! Bear in mind you need to stay somewhere that has a suitable area, table, lighting etc. for you to do your homework!

http://www.eccthai.com/

Yes. Fully accredited.

ECC is right opposite Centralworld and only a shortish walk to MBK. Most of the accommodation they recommend is right opposite MBK.

[PeaceBlondie]

I must comment: all basic CELTA courses are 'only a TESOL" and worse - only for adult learners.

[whitethai]

Hey that is great being near MBK as I only know this area of Bangkok and that is a little bit around MBK apart from Kao San road which I actually hated.

Accommodation isn't provided but they can point you in the direction of places to suit any budget. This is Bangkok you know! Bear in mind you need to stay somewhere that has a suitable area, table, lighting etc. for you to do your homework!

http://www.eccthai.com/

Yes. Fully accredited.

ECC is right opposite Centralworld and only a shortish walk to MBK. Most of the accommodation they recommend is right opposite MBK.

[brewsterbudgen]

I must comment: all basic CELTA courses are 'only a TESOL" and worse - only for adult learners.

Yes, if you're only interested in teaching kids, CELTA is not the way to go (you can however do a CELTYL which is specifically for teaching young learners).

For a "career" teaching TEFL/TESOL the CELTA, along with the Trinity Cert TESOL, are the most commonly accepted qualifications internationally. For teaching in Thailand, you can take your pick from any number of courses.

[PeaceBlondie]

I must comment: all basic CELTA courses are 'only a TESOL" and worse - only for adult learners.

Yes, if you're only interested in teaching kids, CELTA is not the way to go (you can however do a CELTYL which is specifically for teaching young learners).

For a "career" teaching TEFL/TESOL the CELTA, along with the Trinity Cert TESOL, are the most commonly accepted qualifications internationally. For teaching in Thailand, you can take your pick from any number of courses.

No, it is not if you want to teach 'only kids.' The CELTA is for teachers who want to teach 'only adults,' worldwide. The YL course is separate, expensive, and at some locations seldom offered. Countless examples when a non-CELTA served well or even better.

[whitethai]

Hello

Thanks

A CELTA will do me for teaching adults.

Just wondered what is the quickest course for getting a degree to go along with the CELTA for Japan Korea etc?

[Loaded]

Just wondered what is the quickest course for getting a degree to go along with the CELTA for Japan Korea etc?

Don't ask Hippo

[brewsterbudgen]

I must comment: all basic CELTA courses are 'only a TESOL" and worse - only for adult learners.

Yes, if you're only interested in teaching kids, CELTA is not the way to go (you can however do a CELTYL which is specifically for teaching young learners).

For a "career" teaching TEFL/TESOL the CELTA, along with the Trinity Cert TESOL, are the most commonly accepted qualifications internationally. For teaching in Thailand, you can take your pick from any number of courses.

No, it is not if you want to teach 'only kids.' The CELTA is for teachers who want to teach 'only adults,' worldwide. The YL course is separate, expensive, and at some locations seldom offered. Countless examples when a non-CELTA served well or even better.

Well, I did a CELTA and immediately afterwards spent a year teaching kids and teenagers (and a few adults) at a good Bangkok language school. The techniques taught on the CELTA course served me well. If you want to specialise in teaching kids then there are certainly better courses. For someone wanting to make a career in TEFL/TESOL and not be restricted to Thailand, CELTA or Trinity is the way to go. I can't see any other course that can compare.

Edited May 7, 2009 by brewsterbudgen

[Loaded]

I can't see any other course that can compare.

Which ones did you look at?

And why don't they compare?

[brewsterbudgen]

I can't see any other course that can compare.

Which ones did you look at?

And why don't they compare?

TEFL International, Text & Talk, Thailand Experience, TEFL Thailand, Teach Abroad Thailand - you just need to look at the international TEFL jobs advertised on the TEFL job finding sites to see that CELTA and Trinity are the most recognised TEFL/TESOL qualifications. Thailand TEFL courses are fine for Thailand but I can't see why anyone would recommend them over CELTA or Trinity for someone wanting a TEFL career that is not restricted to Thailand.

I also have experience of working with and training teachers who completed the Thailand Experience TEFL course and I have to say I found the majority of them to be very under-prepared.

[whitethai]

Right so this CELTA course near Mabun Krong is good to go then?

http://www.eccthai.com/

[Loaded]

I can't see any other course that can compare.

Which ones did you look at?

And why don't they compare?

TEFL International, Text & Talk, Thailand Experience, TEFL Thailand, Teach Abroad Thailand - you just need to look at the international TEFL jobs advertised on the TEFL job finding sites to see that CELTA and Trinity are the most recognised TEFL/TESOL qualifications. Thailand TEFL courses are fine for Thailand but I can't see why anyone would recommend them over CELTA or Trinity for someone wanting a TEFL career that is not restricted to Thailand.

I also have experience of working with and training teachers who completed the Thailand Experience TEFL course and I have to say I found the majority of them to be very under-prepared.

I just checked with the largest job site in asia - ajarn.com - and it's TEFL far more than CELTA that's asked for. Which sites were you looking at?

[PeaceBlondie]

Like Loaded, I've spent time on other world wide TEFL job sites and forums. There seems to be no insistence by employers for CELTA - it's just older.

[brewsterbudgen]

I wasn't referring to Asia and I'm not saying that employers "insist" on CELTA (although some jobs certainly do). I quite accept that any old TEFL will do in Thailand and no doubt in other Asian countries as well. However, I stand by my view that the CELTA and Trinity TESOL are the most widely accepted TEFL qualifications worldwide and anyone considering a career in TEFL/TESOL would be wise to consider doing one.

This is the TEFL job site I was referring to: http://www.tefl.com/

[brewsterbudgen]

Right so this CELTA course near Mabun Krong is good to go then?

http://www.eccthai.com/

It's 2 stops on the BTS or a 15 minute, sweaty, walk from ECC to MBK. Centralworld is bang opposite.

[PeaceBlondie]

I wasn't referring to Asia and I'm not saying that employers "insist" on CELTA (although some jobs certainly do). I quite accept that any old TEFL will do in Thailand and no doubt in other Asian countries as well. However, I stand by my view that the CELTA and Trinity TESOL are the most widely accepted TEFL qualifications worldwide and anyone considering a career in TEFL/TESOL would be wise to consider doing one.

This is the TEFL job site I was referring to: http://www.tefl.com/

Excuse me? The site has a dozen non-CELTA course sponsors.

Added: Taipei, TEFL cert or no cert. Saudi: "Applicants should have TEFL certificate, and a BA degree (a master's degree is preferred)."

[brewsterbudgen]

I wasn't referring to Asia and I'm not saying that employers "insist" on CELTA (although some jobs certainly do). I quite accept that any old TEFL will do in Thailand and no doubt in other Asian countries as well. However, I stand by my view that the CELTA and Trinity TESOL are the most widely accepted TEFL qualifications worldwide and anyone considering a career in TEFL/TESOL would be wise to consider doing one.

This is the TEFL job site I was referring to: http://www.tefl.com/

Excuse me? The site has a dozen non-CELTA course sponsors.

Added: Taipei, TEFL cert or no cert. Saudi: "Applicants should have TEFL certificate, and a BA degree (a master's degree is preferred)."

So? Why wouldn't they want as many sponsors as they can get. The provision of TEFL courses is a lucrative business - but never mind the quality...

"Saudi: "Applicants should have TEFL certificate" - Sure - and having a CELTA, which is a "TEFL", will probably give you an advantage over someone holding a less well known qualification.

What have you got against CELTA???

Edited May 11, 2009 by brewsterbudgen

[Loaded]

I wasn't referring to Asia and I'm not saying that employers "insist" on CELTA (although some jobs certainly do). I quite accept that any old TEFL will do in Thailand and no doubt in other Asian countries as well. However, I stand by my view that the CELTA and Trinity TESOL are the most widely accepted TEFL qualifications worldwide and anyone considering a career in TEFL/TESOL would be wise to consider doing one.

This is the TEFL job site I was referring to: http://www.tefl.com/

Excuse me? The site has a dozen non-CELTA course sponsors.

Added: Taipei, TEFL cert or no cert. Saudi: "Applicants should have TEFL certificate, and a BA degree (a master's degree is preferred)."

So? Why wouldn't they want as many sponsors as they can get. The provision of TEFL courses is a lucrative business - but never mind the quality...

"Saudi: "Applicants should have TEFL certificate" - Sure - and having a CELTA, which is a "TEFL", will probably give you an advantage over someone holding a less well known qualification.

What have you got against CELTA???

[PeaceBlondie]

I have a few objections, primarily that CELTA is not the Holy Grail. This thread has devolved into a cert war, and is hereby closed, Send PM to IJWT or me if you wish.